Trivia: Congratulations humanity for causing it. Congrats to Republicans fighting against fixing it. What is it?

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Stokely

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That's the ironic part of all this for the supposed "fiscal Conservatives" (which I think is mostly bunk from the start, as they are a-ok with certain spending). We can pay a lot now to try to head off the worst of global warming--or we can pay a LOT more later to deal with the fallout. Key word: later. As in, I'm old and who gives a shit about anything after I die. That's just the ones who admit it's happening, a larger chunk deny it's even a thing. I guess these are all people who don't buy insurance because there is no guarantee they'll have an accident--science is saying it's very likely to heat up, the prudent thing to do is to address it. Nope. That would take sacrifice now, instead we'll just deny and let future generations deal with it. FYGM at its finest.

We as a species are too unevolved to have the tech that caused this in the first place. Then again, iirc the only reason Europe regrew any forests after the Black plague is that so many of us died....they'd mostly cut them all down. So nothing all that new, just on a more serious scale. Agent Smith had it right, we are a virus whose only means of survival is to pillage more area. Unfortunately, we are fresh out of area, so cue the fat lady.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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People don't realize how much CO2 is generated in making cement.
That only matters during the very brief period of manufacturing (which could be a lot better, need to start working with that roman concrete!). Heat island effect is continual but again, the city doesn't 'generate' the heat you feel, it's just concentrated in various ways.
 

Paratus

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That only matters during the very brief period of manufacturing (which could be a lot better, need to start working with that roman concrete!). Heat island effect is continual but again, the city doesn't 'generate' the heat you feel, it's just concentrated in various ways.
In addition there’s now a version of concrete that absorbs CO2 from the air.

 

Ajay

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In addition there’s now a version of concrete that absorbs CO2 from the air.

I heard a snippet about that a while ago and was pretty skeptical, not so much now. Thanks for the link. Good thing, if this tech works out, is that human pour ALLOT of concrete every year.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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In addition there’s now a version of concrete that absorbs CO2 from the air.

While interesting, I'd rather us get out of the game of pouring concrete all the time period and use concrete that heals itself and lasts for centuries. Focus energies elsewhere, stop screwing with traffic, etc.
 

nickqt

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While interesting, I'd rather us get out of the game of pouring concrete all the time period and use concrete that heals itself and lasts for centuries. Focus energies elsewhere, stop screwing with traffic, etc.
Roman concrete heals itself, which is why so much of it is still around 2000+ years later.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Roman concrete heals itself, which is why so much of it is still around 2000+ years later.
Yes, I know, hence my earlier desire to switch to it entirely rather than a carbon capture formula that doesn't have self healing properties (unless they're one in the same and the article was shit/I missed it).
 
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VRAMdemon

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Trees, everywhere, trees. A trillion trees! Who’s going to rake all those forests?


This site estimates there’s 3.04 trillion trees now. I doubt anyone in the GOP ran the numbers.
 

APU_Fusion

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Trees, everywhere, trees. A trillion trees! Who’s going to rake all those forests?


This site estimates there’s 3.04 trillion trees now. I doubt anyone in the GOP ran the numbers.
The pandering, stupidity, and ignorance of the right boggles my mind.

ok China, this hoax is getting a bit out of hand
 

Ken g6

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Apparently, fixing the urban heart island effect with white roofs may actually hurt global warming reduction efforts!

 

akugami

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Need green roofs (living roofs) to reduce the heat island effect. This takes a drastic design change in buildings as well as urban spaces, but this is probably the only way we'll reduce it long term.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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Trees, everywhere, trees. A trillion trees! Who’s going to rake all those forests?


This site estimates there’s 3.04 trillion trees now. I doubt anyone in the GOP ran the numbers.
So many this wrong with this, shows the level of scientific input they're working with.
 

HomerJS

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In a recent hearing Republican denies climate change because it's autumn. Also, can someone explain to me how windmills are killing whales.
 
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Ajay

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Pete: Sorry I dont speak stupid, can you have your translator step forward? You could maybe fingerpaint something for us to see? God bless you.
Oh, and Pete should have the number 35 in his back pocket. As, over 35 Gigatons of CO2 are in the atmosphere. That retort would have made this exchange, weird as it was, even sweeter. [preindustrial era was ~5 Gigatons - Climate.gov]
 
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Oh, and Pete should have the number 35 in his back pocket. As, over 35 Gigatons of CO2 in the atmosphere.
If researchers could create some useful photosynthetic bacterial strain, it would suddenly solve this problem in one go. Or plastic eating bacteria that require CO2 for respiration.
 

GodisanAtheist

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Its so weird reading about all these crazy hyper advanced technologies to sequester carbon that basically try to do what trees have done for billions of years while looking good and being psychologically restorative to humans as well.

Wonder if we pumped a ton of money into the lumber industry to plant, grow, harvest fast growth forests, as well as beautification of urban spaces using trees etc, how that would pan out.
 

hal2kilo

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If researchers could create some useful photosynthetic bacterial strain, it would suddenly solve this problem in one go. Or plastic eating bacteria that require CO2 for respiration.
Hell, people are freaking already about seeding the ocean with iron to reduce CO2 levels.
 
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NWRMidnight

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Hell, people are freaking already about seeding the ocean with iron to reduce CO2 levels.
Could it be concerns about the effect the iron will have on Ocean life. Adding Iron to the Ocean does help in new Plankton growth, but is that really a long term solution to the CO2 levels that have skyrocket over the last 6+ decades and getting worse due to us humans?

Here is an interesting graph on O2 levels and CO2 levels (globally), that shows how serious things are, and it's not just CO2, but also N2O):


https://www.oxygenlevels.org/

(you can switch between O2/Co2/N2O at the bottom)
 
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