Question Trifecta - new CPU, RAM, and mobo - is this a good set?

[igor_kavinski]

The 4080 super went back on sale today. Now I have to upgrade to the 4080 super as it is just over 100 bucks more.

Or maybe downgrade to something with 16GB from AMD?

Have you tried the Adrenaline control panel? It's really good (at least I love it). I tried Geforce Experience. Seemed lame in comparison. Adrenaline looks a lot more polished. Geforce Experience may have good things going for it but I wasn't motivated enough to explore it any further. The initial impression turned me off and it forces you to login.

 

[MrSquished]

Or maybe downgrade to something with 16GB from AMD?

Have you tried the Adrenaline control panel? It's really good (at least I love it). I tried Geforce Experience. Seemed lame in comparison. Adrenaline looks a lot more polished. Geforce Experience may have good things going for it but I wasn't motivated enough to explore it any further. The initial impression turned me off and it forces you to login.

I've had Radeon's the last three times I built a rig. I prefer the brand over nVidia. But no matter how much I tried, I could not justify it this time around. The geForce is just better and uses less power. If AMD really tried to compete on price, that would be one thing. But they aren't.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I would take the 7900 XT over the 4080 Super. Or get a 7600 XT 16GB for the time being and upgrade to RDNA4 if I had no card to fall back on. Doesn't feel like the right time to spend so much on a new card.

 

[MrSquished]

I would take the 7900 XT over the 4080 Super. Or get a 7600 XT 16GB for the time being and upgrade to RDNA4 if I had no card to fall back on. Doesn't feel like the right time to spend so much on a new card.

I was thinking to wait longer for next gen as it is right around the corner, but I did do this build now, so I need a new card, and I am playing some games on it now that I want to run at 4K, like Alan Wake 2.

 

[MrSquished]

Got the PNY 4080 Super but it won't work. It does light up when turned on, but is not recognized in BIOS. I only have two PCI-E power cables to plug into the power adapter they have, but it has three slots for three 8-pin power cables to get plugged into the card, so I ordered one additional EVGA 8 pin power cable to give it all the juice it can get. That arrives tomorrow.

 

[MrSquished]

Voila, it did indeed need a 3rd VGA 8 pin plug to work. Amazon came through in a day and I'm in business. 4080 super working! Build complete!

 

[MrSquished]

Was on B&H and saw a graphics card prices and the 4080 supers are more money than when I bought mine. Not by a lot but what the hell happened.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Not by a lot but what the hell happened.

Chinese AI craze

 

[MrSquished]

Chinese AI craze

The 5000 series cards all just got bought up? I figured that would help lower the 4000 card prices

 

[manly]

Nvidia has mostly stopped production of the 40 Series, and the new stuff will launch in January at slightly higher prices.

They aren't like AMD, which seems to have an endless trickle of older Radeon 6000 chips still being pushed to board partners. 🤣

 

[MrSquished]

Glad I built up a new PC for long-term usage before tariff man went all predictably stupid on us.

 

[MrSquished]

Started having issues restarting my pc, it would just hang. I'd have to shut it down with the power button, and then start it up and it would work. Just no restarting.

Eventually I reinstalled windows but I think I messed up when updating some Gigabyte CCC stuff. Lots of restart issues still. So I went to do a clean install of windows again and I just couldn't. Always hanging at the finding disks, or if it found the disks, once I picked one it would hang again. Troubleshooted a lot, and googling leans towards it's the chip that's the issue.

I ordered a 9800x3d and a different 2TB m.2 drive as well. I'll try the chip first as that was 99% of the time the issue when this happened from my research. Same finding disk issues, new chip fixed it. If it's my 7800x3D I'll warranty it, and then sell the brand new replacement.

Really frustrating. I did not use high voltages either and no crazy overclock, I kept it all pretty mid. I'm more about good temps.

 

[igor_kavinski]

If you used PBO or CO, it can do all sorts of weird stuff. I figured out by chance what the USB issue was that ex-Intel people keep complaining about when they switch to AMD or away from AMD. It has to do with PBO+CO+some combination of RAM/fabric OC. Both my keyboard and mouse would stop working. Thankfully, I had them attached via KVM so just pressng the KVM switch twice restored both of them. Easy fix. Any other user without KVM would have to physically take out the mouse and keyboard and plug them back in after Windows is loaded. And weirdly, it happens only in Windows. On the OS selection screen, the keyboard works. As soon as Windows loads and if I'm tinkering with anything, I need to press the KVM switch twice to make it work. But so far, despite the self induced wonkiness, it's like a dream. Boots really fast, whether it is cold/warm boot or boot to desktop.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Really frustrating. I did not use high voltages either and no crazy overclock, I kept it all pretty mid. I'm more about good temps.

Gigabyte has issues, especially if you install their own stuff. I've so far kept my Gigabyte Z890 mobo experience pristine by refusing to install any of their crap.

 

[MrSquished]

Gigabyte has issues, especially if you install their own stuff. I've so far kept my Gigabyte Z890 mobo experience pristine by refusing to install any of their crap.

I like the fan control and the rgb control. But at this point, it has nothing to do with any Gigabyte software, I can't even do a fresh install of windows.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I like the fan control and the rgb control. But at this point, it has nothing to do with any Gigabyte software, I can't even do a fresh install of windows.

Next time, stay away from EXPO. It's broken. That's why I didn't enable it. EXPO forces too much voltage on the IMC and IOD.

I'm manually overclocking the RAM to its rated speed by changing the PMIC and DIMM voltage (they are coupled) to the kit's rated voltage in Ryzen Master.

 

[MrSquished]

I put in the new chip, bios recognized it, but installing windows 11 from USB still hung at searching for disks. Then I swapped out the WD 2TB m.2 drive for the new Samsung drive, same thing happened. Now going to try a new mobo.

 

[igor_kavinski]

...still hung at searching for disks. Then I swapped out the WD 2TB m.2 drive for the new Samsung drive, same thing happened.

Did you try resetting to BIOS defaults before trying that?

The primary M.2 slot could've become defective due to whatever reason (maybe too much heat from the GPU?).

 

[MrSquished]

Did you try resetting to BIOS defaults before trying that?

The primary M.2 slot could've become defective due to whatever reason (maybe too much heat from the GPU?).

Yes my mobo had the latest BIOS already, it recognized it was a new 9800 series chip vs a 7800 chip, and reset the BIOS. I'll pick up a new mobo I ordered from Microcenter tomorrow.