Transcript of CNN Crossfire with John O'Neill

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Gaard

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Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? It's not Bush's job to prove anything, its the other guys job to prove otherwise.

Maybe they just don't feel like it. You know, kind of how you just don't feel like proving your claim of 'intellectually inferior' blacks and Hispanics. ;)
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? It's not Bush's job to prove anything, its the other guys job to prove otherwise.
Bush's Air National Guard records exist. The only thing missing is any notation that he was paid for the time he claims he was on duty. Unless someone tampered with those records, if he was there and flying, he would have been paid for it, and it would be noted. Without strong evidence to the contrary, his own records raise at least a reasonable presumption that he skipped out.

Since he claims he was on duty, if he wasn't, he's obviously lying. Why is that so hard to understand?

Now, back to the topic of this thread, the NOT SO SWIFT Boat liar, John O'Neill. :p
 
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I could do so. But then that would provoke a giant, worthless discussion of inherent bias in the SATs and whether going to college has to do with your interest in academic growth or not, as well as how you aren't stupid if you don't graduate high school.

his own records raise at least a reasonable presumption that he skipped out.
So now we condemn people based on a "reasonable presumption"?