[TPU]Core i3 and Pentium "Haswell" Desktop CPU Pricing Surfaces

[TimBull]

GT3e looks like this:

I think that should fit under an LGA1150 heatspreader just fine.

Okay, so if true that would be one problem out the way, Erect me if I'm Crong, But I was more referring to the socket and that had it come LGA, would never have fitted into a 1150 socket footprint even if intel had tried their best to design it that way.
What is the solution? ITX Motherboards with iris pro soldered by intel? or even better, playing nice with third party manufacturers. I for one would like to see it.
Neglected to introduce myself, I'm obviously new around here and am looking forward to learning a bit from you.
Cheers Tim

 

[Zap]

1. What about Celerons?

Your future Atom Celeron CPU

Iris Pro on a desktop i3 would make for a pretty nice gaming micro-PC.

AFAIK not even notebook get Iris Pro on an i3.

I think Intel should at least sell some desktop dual cores with the HD 5000 ("Iris pro" without L4 cache), it's easier to have faster DDR3 with desktops anyway, and with a 65W TDP or something it would perform much better than it does on the macbook

I'd hit it!

Hang on while I imagine Micro Center selling a Core i3-4225 CPU for $99.99 plus a $40 discount combo with motherboard purchase, making an ITX B85 chipset board around $50.

:awe:

 

[seitur]

Your future Atom Celeron CPU

Yeah, heard about that - I should have specifically said "big core Celerons", but yeah seems Celeron will be new Atom only.

 

[AtenRa]

Yeah, heard about that - I should have specifically said "big core Celerons", but yeah seems Celeron will be new Atom only.

Haswell Celerons will be released in Q1 2014
Haswell Pentium in Q3 2013.

 

[seitur]

Haswell Celerons will be released in Q1 2014
Haswell Pentium in Q3 2013.

Heard about Hawell Pentiums, haven't about Haswell Celerons. Nice info, but care to give a source?

 

[NTMBK]

Heard about Hawell Pentiums, haven't about Haswell Celerons. Nice info, but care to give a source?

Note the colour code at the bottom- purple = Haswell.

 

[NTMBK]

AFAIK not even notebook get Iris Pro on an i3.

That's just due to branding and segmentation decisions- there are dual core Haswells with Iris Pro, so the die already exists. I just want a higher clocked SKU for mini gaming rigs.

 

[AtenRa]

Heard about Hawell Pentiums, haven't about Haswell Celerons. Nice info, but care to give a source?

I posted the following Roadmap two months ago after Haswell release

 

[seitur]

Ok, thanks for Roadmaps !

 

[taisingera]

They should just drop the Celeron name from Haswell, and rebrand it with Atom architecture going forward. I guess they just want to confuse people.

 

[jpiniero]

They should just drop the Celeron name from Haswell, and rebrand it with Atom architecture going forward. I guess they just want to confuse people.

You can call it confusion, but what they are doing is trying to upsell Atom. IOW, they are trying to get people to pay $150 for a Bay Trail chip.

 

[ShintaiDK]

You can call it confusion, but what they are doing is trying to upsell Atom. IOW, they are trying to get people to pay $150 for a Bay Trail chip.

Celerons are more like 40-60$.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Celerons are more like 40-60$.

Still, I am all for renaming atom, but to give it the same name as low end haswell is extremely confusing at best, and borderline deceptive at worst.

Its like building an economy car and giving it the same name as your midsize car, while selling them alongside each other. Even amd made the kabini line up confusing by giving them similar numbers to rich land, but not as bad as this.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Still, I am all for renaming atom, but to give it the same name as low end haswell is extremely confusing at best, and borderline deceptive at worst.

Its like building an economy car and giving it the same name as your midsize car, while selling them alongside each other. Even amd made the kabini line up confusing by giving them similar numbers to rich land, but not as bad as this.

Its not? A4-6300(Richland) vs A6-5200(Kabini) vs A4-5300(Trinity) vs A4-4000(Richland)?

Everyone does it. Look at GFX cards as well.

I dont like it either. But its the defacto standard to do it.

 

[Zap]

I just want a higher clocked SKU for mini gaming rigs.

Me too! I might even be okay showing up at LAN parties with a VESA mounted mini PC using integrated graphics. Last year I gamed on either notebooks or my mini PC with no card better than a Radeon 6670, even though my "home" machine had dual GTX 560 Ti in SLI. Necessity from being away from home, yet I still enjoyed gaming.

I posted the following Roadmap two months ago after Haswell release

So if I'm reading it right, the BGA Celerons soldered on to ITX motherboards will be essentially Atoms, while socket 1150 Celerons will be Haswell.

 

[supermag24]

If Intel could just find a way to drop their prices like 20$, they wouldn't be losing the less than 180$ battle. Less than 180$(generally) AMD offers more bang for your buck. After 180$ intel pretty much owns the scene. I just cant justify getting a Gxxx cpu from intel, when i can get an AMD cpu that lets me overclock and will run games nicely. I guess one good thing is that when these new cpus come out, hopefully the old(but still some good) pentiums and celerons will drop in price. I'm not an intel fanboy, but i do like intel.

 

[blackened23]

If Intel could just find a way to drop their prices like 20$, they wouldn't be losing the less than 180$ battle. Less than 180$(generally) AMD offers more bang for your buck. After 180$ intel pretty much owns the scene. I just cant justify getting a Gxxx cpu from intel, when i can get an AMD cpu that lets me overclock and will run games nicely. I guess one good thing is that when these new cpus come out, hopefully the old(but still some good) pentiums and celerons will drop in price. I'm not an intel fanboy, but i do like intel.

Intel certainly isn't "losing" the less than 180$ battle...