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Toyota recalling more than 770,000 vehicles in US

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So American car companys have more recalls than the number of times I've drank alcohol and people try to blow this out of proportion because USA companies can't persuade Americans to buy their own crappy products. Nice going WWII vets, hopefully you'll be the last generation of Flintstones and your grandchildren will enter the world QUALITY, not national crap.
 
Originally posted by: Eli
Toyota said the surface of a ball joint which connects to the front suspension may have been scratched when it was manufactured, which could lead to wear and tear over time.
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This is nothing to freak out about.

They're simply offering to replace a defective part free of charge instead of just making consumers replace it when the steering gets wonky.
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Doesn't seem like much to me, either. I would like to know if they bother to include a zirc fitting in their joints? The "perma-lubed" joints I'm seeing these days, are total BS!
 
Originally posted by: Atomicus
So American car companys have more recalls than the number of times I've drank alcohol and people try to blow this out of proportion because USA companies can't persuade Americans to buy their own crappy products. Nice going WWII vets, hopefully you'll be the last generation of Flintstones and your grandchildren will enter the world QUALITY, not national crap.
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good thing you posted this in a thread where toyota is recalling 3/4 of a million cars. gg toyota
 
Originally posted by: Cattlegod
Originally posted by: Atomicus
So American car companys have more recalls than the number of times I've drank alcohol and people try to blow this out of proportion because USA companies can't persuade Americans to buy their own crappy products. Nice going WWII vets, hopefully you'll be the last generation of Flintstones and your grandchildren will enter the world QUALITY, not national crap.
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good thing you posted this in a thread where toyota is recalling 3/4 of a million cars. gg toyota
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dont bother, people think that the GM recalls about having a "difficult to place seat belt" is large, and what not, but no one on here looks at toyota and says "why dont they have a QC inspector there looking at the ball joints.

MIKE
 
Originally posted by: Cattlegod
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Cattlegod
jap crap
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Oh please.

Instead of lasting 250,000 miles, it may only last 100,000 miles because of this scratch.

Toyota is simply saying, "Yeah.. It should last 250,000 miles. Here's a new one.".
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what is the matter? do you own a toyota? is toyota not as high and mighty as you hoped?

omg, my toyota junk is breaking down!!!!!
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No, I own a Chevy - I'm simply telling it how it is.

All cars have problems. It is the nature of things mechanical. Some, however, have many more problems than others.

This is a "good deed" recall, not a "Oh sh!t, we're getting sued" recall.
 
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Cattlegod
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Cattlegod
jap crap
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Oh please.

Instead of lasting 250,000 miles, it may only last 100,000 miles because of this scratch.

Toyota is simply saying, "Yeah.. It should last 250,000 miles. Here's a new one.".
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what is the matter? do you own a toyota? is toyota not as high and mighty as you hoped?

omg, my toyota junk is breaking down!!!!!
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No, I own a Chevy - I'm simply telling it how it is.

All cars have problems. It is the nature of things mechanical. Some, however, have many more problems than others.

This is a "good deed" recall, not a "Oh sh!t, we're getting sued" recall.
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ANYTHING related to safety is an "Oh sh!t, we're getting sued" recall. They are lucky it was caught before they were sued.
 
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: Cattlegod
jap crap
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Made by American Workers.
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Engineered by Japanese Workers :evil:
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This seems to be a manufacturing error and not engineering though 🙂
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An engineer designed the manufacturing aspects of the assembly plant :evil:
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Lol, fine. But a someone had to manufacture the manufacturing machinery 😉
 
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: Cattlegod
jap crap
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Made by American Workers.
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Engineered by Japanese Workers :evil:
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This seems to be a manufacturing error and not engineering though 🙂
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if the manufacturing engineers ( and design depending what the issue was ) did their job correctly, there would be no issue.
 
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: Cattlegod
jap crap
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Made by American Workers.
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Engineered by Japanese Workers :evil:
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This seems to be a manufacturing error and not engineering though 🙂
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An engineer designed the manufacturing aspects of the assembly plant :evil:
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Lol, fine. But a someone had to manufacture the manufacturing machinery 😉
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I was just messing around, that why I used the little devil! 😀

Cheers Mo0o :beer:
 
Outstanding service.

You know what GM would have done? An economic analysis of the time of failure of the part to determine how many of the repairs would be required in warranty, if the majority fell outside the warranty and it was cheaper for them to get repair the few that did fail in warranty they would have ignored the issue. I know of a dozen such issues, the one that pops to mind right now is fords V8 5.0 and it's little oil problem that's existed for 10 years but because the vast majority occur after the warranty they haven't recalled and they haven't even bothered to fix the design problem.

Toyota is fixing something that probably doesn't even cause failure in warranty and isn't a safety problem, that's an anathma to GM and Ford.
 
Originally posted by: Cattlegod
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Cattlegod
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Cattlegod
jap crap
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Oh please.

Instead of lasting 250,000 miles, it may only last 100,000 miles because of this scratch.

Toyota is simply saying, "Yeah.. It should last 250,000 miles. Here's a new one.".
Click to expand...



what is the matter? do you own a toyota? is toyota not as high and mighty as you hoped?

omg, my toyota junk is breaking down!!!!!
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No, I own a Chevy - I'm simply telling it how it is.

All cars have problems. It is the nature of things mechanical. Some, however, have many more problems than others.

This is a "good deed" recall, not a "Oh sh!t, we're getting sued" recall.
Click to expand...

ANYTHING related to safety is an "Oh sh!t, we're getting sued" recall. They are lucky it was caught before they were sued.
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You misunderstand the nature of the recall.

This isn't a safety issue any more than worn ball joints are in any other vehicle.

They are recalling them simply because the scratch causes them to wear out prematurely. They aren't going to prevent you from steering your car. The steering will just get loose and be generally sh!tty the more worn out they get, causing the need to replace them.

Toyota is admitting there is a premature wear problem, and offering to replace them for free.

Anything to bash the "jap crap", eh? Too bad they're not really crap..... This isn't the 70s.
 
Originally posted by: rahvin
Outstanding service.

You know what GM would have done? An economic analysis of the time of failure of the part to determine how many of the repairs would be required in warranty, if the majority fell outside the warranty and it was cheaper for them to get repair the few that did fail in warranty they would have ignored the issue. I know of a dozen such issues, the one that pops to mind right now is fords V8 5.0 and it's little oil problem that's existed for 10 years but because the vast majority occur after the warranty they haven't recalled and they haven't even bothered to fix the design problem.

Toyota is fixing something that probably doesn't even cause failure in warranty and isn't a safety problem, that's an anathma to GM and Ford.
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Exactly.

The word "recall" has such a negative connotation to it. They need to figure out something else.

We think of recall as being the thing is unfit for being out in the consumer world, and that's simply not always the case.
 
Originally posted by: rahvin
Outstanding service.

You know what GM would have done? An economic analysis of the time of failure of the part to determine how many of the repairs would be required in warranty, if the majority fell outside the warranty and it was cheaper for them to get repair the few that did fail in warranty they would have ignored the issue. I know of a dozen such issues, the one that pops to mind right now is fords V8 5.0 and it's little oil problem that's existed for 10 years but because the vast majority occur after the warranty they haven't recalled and they haven't even bothered to fix the design problem.

Toyota is fixing something that probably doesn't even cause failure in warranty and isn't a safety problem, that's an anathma to GM and Ford.
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rahvin, I'm sure Toyota did a similar analysis of their situation. Let's be realistic, they did not do this out of the kindness of the hearts.
 
Originally posted by: rahvin
Outstanding service.

You know what GM would have done? An economic analysis of the time of failure of the part to determine how many of the repairs would be required in warranty, if the majority fell outside the warranty and it was cheaper for them to get repair the few that did fail in warranty they would have ignored the issue. I know of a dozen such issues, the one that pops to mind right now is fords V8 5.0 and it's little oil problem that's existed for 10 years but because the vast majority occur after the warranty they haven't recalled and they haven't even bothered to fix the design problem.

Toyota is fixing something that probably doesn't even cause failure in warranty and isn't a safety problem, that's an anathma to GM and Ford.
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why did GM recall the latest LARGE recall?

overheating of fuel pump wires that could lead to engine stalling, failure to start, a possible fuel leak and inaccurate fuel-level readings.
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The parking brakes could wear out, allowing the vehicles to move unexpectedly.
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which could stall or fail to start due to a faulty ignition relay
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a potential problem with a brake part that could lead to brake loss
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same thing, they could potentially lead to wear out.

MIKE
 
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Cattlegod
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Cattlegod
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Cattlegod
jap crap
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Oh please.

Instead of lasting 250,000 miles, it may only last 100,000 miles because of this scratch.

Toyota is simply saying, "Yeah.. It should last 250,000 miles. Here's a new one.".
Click to expand...



what is the matter? do you own a toyota? is toyota not as high and mighty as you hoped?

omg, my toyota junk is breaking down!!!!!
Click to expand...
No, I own a Chevy - I'm simply telling it how it is.

All cars have problems. It is the nature of things mechanical. Some, however, have many more problems than others.

This is a "good deed" recall, not a "Oh sh!t, we're getting sued" recall.
Click to expand...

ANYTHING related to safety is an "Oh sh!t, we're getting sued" recall. They are lucky it was caught before they were sued.
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You misunderstand the nature of the recall.

This isn't a safety issue any more than worn ball joints are in any other vehicle.

They are recalling them simply because the scratch causes them to wear out prematurely. They aren't going to prevent you from steering your car. The steering will just get loose and be generally sh!tty the more worn out they get, causing the need to replace them.

Toyota is admitting there is a premature wear problem, and offering to replace them for free.

Anything to bash the "jap crap", eh? Too bad they're not really crap..... This isn't the 70s.
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--This isn't a safety issue any more than worn ball joints are in any other vehicle.

***"It is one of the largest safety recalls ever by Toyota Motor Corp. in north America and in the company's history." Do you know what happens when a ball joint fails!?!?!?! Your wheel caves into your wheel well and you no longer have control of steering. If this happens at high way speeds this WILL cause loss of control (and on a truck or SUV a VERY easy rollover (can we say OMG for this one)).

--Anything to bash the "jap crap", eh? Too bad they're not really crap..... This isn't the 70s.

***You are right, this isn't the 70s. This also isn't the 90s either, this is the mid 2000s and Toyota is finally getting to large for its own good. You will see more stuff like this start to pop up as they continue to expand futher, mark my words.


 
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