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Touchpad review

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SAWYER said:
Webos is dead, it has been out two years and has gone nowhere. Hell WP7 is less than a year old and is growing at a faster rate and has more developer support.
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At launch the touchpad is supposed to have 300 touchpad apps. I know this is low, but it is right around the same number of honeycomb apps four months after launch. Does this mean that google tablets are dead?
 
I'm hoping that Touchpad ACTUALLY lives up to the expectations... They need Steve Jobs, not Jon Rubenstein. Apparently, he'll let anything fly... Steve Jobs, will only allow the best experience pass...
 
Pretty much every review I've read indicates that webOS on a tablet has a lot of potential, but the Touchpad isn't quite there yet.

That's practically webOS' mantra at this point--"we have the most potential out of anyone!!!" Well it's been 2 years since webOS hit shelves...it's about time to start reaching some of that potential rather than constantly claim that the (not insignificant) issues will be fixed "in the coming months".
 
Google tablets are a flop as of now but Android isn't dead, webos is dead. Come on man, it has been out two years and has gone nowhere, there is no disputing that. It's a shame because webos is very nice, but the reality is palm and hp screwed up their chances
 
Sheep said:
Pretty much every review I've read indicates that webOS on a tablet has a lot of potential, but the Touchpad isn't quite there yet.

That's practically webOS' mantra at this point--"we have the most potential out of anyone!!!" Well it's been 2 years since webOS hit shelves...it's about time to start reaching some of that potential rather than constantly claim that the (not insignificant) issues will be fixed "in the coming months".
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Exactly

The webos hardcore sound as desperate as the ps3 hardcore who claimed just wait until X comes out! Then the 360 is toast!
 
when people say "potential" what are they talking about? Heck, the Playbook had loads of potential! (almost more than the Touchpad)
 
finbarqs said:
when people say "potential" what are they talking about? Heck, the Playbook had loads of potential! (almost more than the Touchpad)
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The big problem is: WP7, WebOS, RIM's QNX and Nokia all have assloads of potential, mostly because they havent accomplished anything yet. When Nokia finally gets a WP7 device out the door they will have realized that bucket full of potential. If they wait too damn long it wont happen. You cant keep playing catch up in this game, when you come out with something new it actually needs to be a game changer, you need to set the bar higher, make everyone else catch up with you.
I am afraid Palm/HP may be in serious shit cuz they've been putzing around too long. And Blackerry's offering was neat but not special in any way.
 
shortylickens said:
The big problem is: WP7, WebOS, RIM's QNX and Nokia all have assloads of potential, mostly because they havent accomplished anything yet. When Nokia finally gets a WP7 device out the door they will have realized that bucket full of potential. If they wait too damn long it wont happen. You cant keep playing catch up in this game, when you come out with something new it actually needs to be a game changer, you need to set the bar higher, make everyone else catch up with you.
I am afraid Palm/HP may be in serious shit cuz they've been putzing around too long. And Blackerry's offering was neat but not special in any way.
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I agree.

iOS is old and a mature OS. The competition needs to do better than have "potential". As Nokia, MS, and RIM are trying to play catch up, every year Apple comes back stronger than ever.

I still remember the day when Steve Balmer said that the iPhone has "no chance" of gaining significant marketshare and that the MotoQ was a better device. Maybe if Balmer didn't waste time sitting on his laurels and underestimating the iPhone, we would actually have a competitive WP7 device today.

The same goes for RIM and Nokia. Luckily there's Android to keep Apple on its toes.
 
the difference between WP7 (MS) and all the other "potential" platforms is that WP7 has shown it's cards. People love it. People want it. Apps Store is surging full speed ahead. It's going to deliver on promise.

WebOS-- never really showed us what "new and exciting" feature it has. In fact, people were just *hoping* that it would be faster with the newer processor, and the demo's we've seen with the Touchpad hasn't really shown us the "speed". So then we're back to "what potential does WebOS has?" is it the huge homebrew developers? is it the build quality? the speed? what is it? I think a lot of people just KNOW that WebOS has potential, but don't know where to put that seemingly unattainable goal.

What about QNX? is the ONLY thing that's lacking is the App store? the Email client? what's the potential there? What else is lacking from QNX? Is it laggy? slow?

I know one thing: MS's WP7 potential is the multi-tasking, messenger/facebook chat integration, turn by turn navigation, --- mango. And it's coming. It's fast, smooth, and will give a serious competition to its competitors. Apps are growing, and it's growing fast. more than 15k Apps in just 9 months, I think potential for this platform is coming fast!

So what is potential? What we would like to see in a phone? what feature it has? polish? speed? animation? what kind of goals do we want WebOS to hit? QNX? Is there something else we would like Microsoft to do?
 
finbarqs said:
the difference between WP7 (MS) and all the other "potential" platforms is that WP7 has shown it's cards. People love it. People want it. Apps Store is surging full speed ahead. It's going to deliver on promise.
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I agree that Windows Phone 7 is most likely to be the third serious contender after iOS and Android but it's still debatable how many people really want it. I mean Google sold as many Android phones in 3 days as Microsoft did in all of Q1.

All of the other players like HP and Microsoft need to give the average consumer a reason to pick their product over iOS or Android and so far they all seem to have failed to do that.
 
finbarqs said:
the difference between WP7 (MS) and all the other "potential" platforms is that WP7 has shown it's cards. People love it. People want it. Apps Store is surging full speed ahead. It's going to deliver on promise.

WebOS-- never really showed us what "new and exciting" feature it has. In fact, people were just *hoping* that it would be faster with the newer processor, and the demo's we've seen with the Touchpad hasn't really shown us the "speed". So then we're back to "what potential does WebOS has?" is it the huge homebrew developers? is it the build quality? the speed? what is it? I think a lot of people just KNOW that WebOS has potential, but don't know where to put that seemingly unattainable goal.

What about QNX? is the ONLY thing that's lacking is the App store? the Email client? what's the potential there? What else is lacking from QNX? Is it laggy? slow?

I know one thing: MS's WP7 potential is the multi-tasking, messenger/facebook chat integration, turn by turn navigation, --- mango. And it's coming. It's fast, smooth, and will give a serious competition to its competitors. Apps are growing, and it's growing fast. more than 15k Apps in just 9 months, I think potential for this platform is coming fast!

So what is potential? What we would like to see in a phone? what feature it has? polish? speed? animation? what kind of goals do we want WebOS to hit? QNX? Is there something else we would like Microsoft to do?
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I'm confused. Is there a WP7 tablet out?

Google's Android is hugely successful on smart phones with tons of apps, but that has not yet transferred to being successful in the tablet market. I do believe that Google will eventually turn things around, but as of now the tablet market is wide open for one or more OSs to compete with iOS.
 
talking strictly OS. But Windows will have a tablet soon too... with their 8. (Which they also showed)
 
I got to play with one of these in Office Depot today and it was pretty cool. Seemed pretty much smooth (not iOS smooth but at least Android smooth). I like the app switcher, I like the web browser and email suite and I like the form factor. Way better than I expected.
 
poofyhairguy said:
I got to play with one of these in Office Depot today and it was pretty cool. Seemed pretty much smooth (not iOS smooth but at least Android smooth). I like the app switcher, I like the web browser and email suite and I like the form factor. Way better than I expected.
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my mom's HD7 was iOS smooth and fast. Much faster than my EVO 4G, and my friend's myTouch4G. It keeps up with your finger pretty good, no matter how fast you go! Android seems to "think" a little more when you do quick movements.
 
finbarqs said:
my mom's HD7 was iOS smooth and fast. Much faster than my EVO 4G, and my friend's myTouch4G. It keeps up with your finger pretty good, no matter how fast you go! Android seems to "think" a little more when you do quick movements.
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I liked the WP7 interface too but AT&T & Tmobile have shitty data plans and Verizon & Sprint have crappy Windows Phones right now.
Shame theres no way to move between GSM and CDMA, otherwise I'd just purchase the phone I really like and bring it over.

I especially liked the active tiles. No digging through apps and menus to find stuff. Almost everything I need to know is right up on top.
 
HP's mistake was to wait until after they put out a few phones and a tablet to start talking about licensing WebOS out. They should have leaked plans to license it right after their palm deal. Once the purchase had cleared all the regulatory hurdles of purchase, they should have started the process of negotiating deals.

The only OS designer who can make it on 2 phones and a tablet is Apple. HP is not apple.
 
don't confuse "speed" with "smooth". I think a lot of people do... Animation, Speed, Reaction, sensitivity all contributes to a smooth experience. If you're missing one, then it's "almost smooth". I believe animation and speed have a majority of the pie when it comes to how "smooth" a device is... iOS, has everything: Animation, Speed, Reaction, Sensitivity. Also WP7 (or Metro)
 
poofyhairguy said:
I got to play with one of these in Office Depot today and it was pretty cool. Seemed pretty much smooth (not iOS smooth but at least Android smooth). I like the app switcher, I like the web browser and email suite and I like the form factor. Way better than I expected.
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That's an oxymoron if I've ever heard one lol.
 
Tristicus said:
Um, no. Android can be buttery smooth with the right build. Troll some more.
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I've used the latest Android phones, I've used iPhones and I've used WM7 phones. While the latest Android phones are a lot smoother than my EVO. They don't come close to touching iOS or WM7. If you think any Android phone is "buttery smooth" compared to a WM7 you're the troll here.

And no I'm not an Apple fanboy, because if I was I wouldn't have brought up WM7.
 
QueBert said:
I've used the latest Android phones, I've used iPhones and I've used WM7 phones. While the latest Android phones are a lot smoother than my EVO. They don't come close to touching iOS or WM7. If you think any Android phone is "buttery smooth" compared to a WM7 you're the troll here.

And no I'm not an Apple fanboy, because if I was I wouldn't have brought up WM7.
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Did I say ANY phone? No, I said with the right build. See the cool thing about Android is you can load it up with as much shit as you want or you can keep it naked. You have the ability to customize.
 
somebody need to do a side by side with the best Android (custom rooted rom out there) with a WP7 and iOS... see how "smooth" everything is in every category...
 
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