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Toronto van-attack terrorist linked to misogynist "incel" movement

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dank69 said:
You have to be mentally ill to join such a group.
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I get where you are coming from, but still, I'd say that sort of reasoning both risks letting the sane-but-nasty off the hook, and at the same time unfairly demonising the mentally ill (by associating them with these types).

Actually, when I think about it, it's annoying how it's only the 'mentally ill' who kill others who get attention and endless earnest examination of their life and problems. All the mentally unwell people out there who do no harm to anyone but themselves are generally ignored. The topic mostly gets discussed when some berk acts out and harms others.

Likewise, for every male 'incel' ranting at the world, there's almost certainly a woman with problems who isn't finding a relationship either. Admittedly, I think some of them will moan at the world as well, but they don't tend to display quite such levels of viciousness when they do so.
 
IronWing said:
These guys never heard of hookers?
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To them, that implies that they aren't owed sex. That's the thing: they've gone beyond that MRA/pick-up artist crap about persuading women to simply arguing that they they should be given partners. If an MRA treats women as inferior people, an incel treats women as cattle.
 
nakedfrog said:
They're just as mad at the guys that are able to have sex with women as they are at the women that won't have sex with them? Or what?
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Yup. They are pissed that women won’t date them and pissed at men that can get dates.

Of course the way to get a date is to treat each woman as an individual, each with individual merit, to understand that sex is something given by a partner not something that’s owed, and to basically not be creepy.

For these guys that’s apparently a very tall order.
 
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Holy crap. I must be old... and a Chad. I had no inkling about this Incel crap.

I knew loosely about GG and about how the over the top feminists were attacked by a bunch of angry guys. But holy crap this is just pathetic.
 
Amused said:
Holy crap. I must be old... and a Chad. I had no inkling about this Incel crap.

I knew loosely about GG and about how the over the top feminists were attacked by a bunch of angry guys. But holy crap this is just pathetic.
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I’m more a chud than a Chad. But even I never had a problem getting laid!
 
MomentsofSanity said:
I’m more a chud than a Chad. But even I never had a problem getting laid!
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I guess hanging out with a bunch of other guys who aren't getting laid isn't the best strategy for getting laid. Seems to me that hanging out with <your gender preference here> who are getting laid or doing the laying would be a better option.
 
IronWing said:
I guess hanging out with a bunch of other guys who aren't getting laid isn't the best strategy for getting laid. Seems to me that hanging out with <your gender preference here> who are getting laid or doing the laying would be a better option.
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So you’re suggesting hanging chads can change everything?
 
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