Top 25 games of all time

[JoshGuru7]

Originally posted by: Zenoth
It can be due to nostalgia to some extent, but it doesn't apply to everyone you know. I myself do prefer modern gaming in general, but there are gems of the past that were in advance of their time not in terms of graphics but simply in quality and originality. I still buy some SNES / Genesis and Nintendo 64 games on eBay occasionally, since I still play some of my favorite games from time to time, instead of playing World of Goo I end up starting my SNES and playing TMNT4 or Mega Man X, and instead of playing Peggle I sometimes play Streets of Rage 2 or Beyond Oasis, and instead of playing Crysis I still play Seeds of Evil and Perfect Dark.

I still play a lot of older games myself as well, but is this due to nostalgia or because the good games of yesteryear are truly as good as the good games of today?

I loved Lords of the Realm 2 and played through the campaign again just last week, but a lot of my enjoyment for that game is based on the fond memories I have for it rather than how it would currently compete in the marketplace. There have been tremendous advances in many fields besides graphics - interfaces, screen resolution, sound, AI that give a newer take on the genre (Total War series) massive advantages over a game released in 1996.

Take a good but not great game from today, like Prototype, and release it fifteen years ago and suddenly it's the consensus #1 game of all time. Does X-Com get to be considered a "greater" game just because it was released earlier? It was fantastic for 1994, but why not let it stand on its own merits instead of trying to make flawed comparisons to games from different eras and genres?

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Glad to see Rome: Total War on the list, that too the top 10. Not enough people know how awesome that game is. It's rarely mentioned in 'Best Game Evar!' threads but that game sucked away my life when it first came out. I think about installing it and starting the campaign again with a faction I could never master but am afraid I will have no life.

 

[lifeobry]

Originally posted by: AdamK47
Right, with the "me too" mentality of aligned opinions for the game it's easy to see why you have that view. Me, I can can see why it's on that list.

I don't get why people shit on Crysis so much. The game is amazing. You can pick up ammo off the ground FFS! :Q

edit: I have to go into more detail on why it should be on the list.

What he said: Immersion. No other game until now has encapsulated the level of immersion into the game world like Crysis. I'm not talking about "this game is so fun it's like i'm in it".

I'm talking about, "holy crap, this is fucking realistic". The way your character moves, THE WAY THE CAMERA MOVES, the way he brings the gun up to zoom, the zoom itself, the sounds of gunfire and near misses, the aforementioned picking ammo off the ground, swimming, the way enemies react when shot and death animations, explosions, tires popping, being able to cut down trees/buildings/etc. etc.

All of this contributes to the level of immersion in a game. The things listed could have been done in other games, but it hasn't been. Crysis did it all in one amazing package. The mechanics of an FPS were notched up sky high with Crysis. After finishing it and booting up HL2, i could just feeeeel the difference in realism and immersion.

It set the bar high for any future FPS in those regards. And for that I think it belongs on the list, maybe not that high though. And the list is kind of weird as SC is so low :/

 

[akugami]

I always hate the "Best Games of All Time" list because they are so subjective. I much prefer a most innovative/influential game list.

 

[StinkyPinky]

I agree with Civ 4 being the best of the Civ series. I loved Civ 1 and 2 (not 3 so much), but Civ 4 with the Beyond the Sword expansion is brilliant. So much depth.

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: akugami
I always hate the "Best Games of All Time" list because they are so subjective. I much prefer a most innovative/influential game list.

Aside from Crysis, pretty much every game on that list qualifies.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: AdamK47
Good to see Crysis on the list. It really is fantastic. People like to block out this game by putting an artificial wall between them and this game with unfounded regurgitated opinions.

I played Crysis through to the end, and it has no place on that list.

agreed

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: AdamK47

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: AdamK47

Originally posted by: Molondo

Originally posted by: AdamK47
Good to see Crysis on the list. It really is fantastic. People like to block out this game by putting an artificial wall between them and this game with unfounded regurgitated opinions.

I would dissagre. All the games i played that are on that list have absorbed a large portion of my life, crysis is the only game that i didn't spend too much time playing. Don't know. I enjoyed playing it, but it got old towards the end.

Right, with the "me too" mentality of aligned opinions for the game it's easy to see why you have that view. Me, I can can see why it's on that list.

Why, pray tell, is it on the list?

It can be summed up with one word. Immersion. People only think of the game for it's graphics. It's not just it's graphics. It's the also open-endedness, the physics, the setting, and the ability to wrap all of this around a cohesive and unique (yes, unique) story. The games technical abilities are what enables the player to immerse themselves in the setting and story.

you must be one of those with the mantality that i spent a gazillions dollars on this PC to run this shitty ass game, so i must force myself to think it's good. there is nothing good about the game besides the graphics.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Beev
See my other post.

Specifically, Call of Duty was very consolized. Think it should be omitted too?

wait, wasn't the original call of duty on PC only? i don't think it was very consolized then. i'm not even sure what you mean by consolized.

 

[Pelu]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: AdamK47
Good to see Crysis on the list. It really is fantastic. People like to block out this game by putting an artificial wall between them and this game with unfounded regurgitated opinions.

I played Crysis through to the end, and it has no place on that list.

Yeah... Crysis for me is only like a nice canvas with great looking vegetation.... (graphics) but in general Crysis is not something that makes me drool....

 

[StinkyPinky]

Crysis was a good game, but it's not even in the Top 5 FPS's I've played. Take away its graphics and it's pretty average to be honest.

 

[octopus41092]

I don't agree with some of the positions on the list but most of the games that made it would be in my top 25.

 

[AdamK47]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: AdamK47

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: AdamK47

Originally posted by: Molondo

Originally posted by: AdamK47
Good to see Crysis on the list. It really is fantastic. People like to block out this game by putting an artificial wall between them and this game with unfounded regurgitated opinions.

I would dissagre. All the games i played that are on that list have absorbed a large portion of my life, crysis is the only game that i didn't spend too much time playing. Don't know. I enjoyed playing it, but it got old towards the end.

Right, with the "me too" mentality of aligned opinions for the game it's easy to see why you have that view. Me, I can can see why it's on that list.

Why, pray tell, is it on the list?

It can be summed up with one word. Immersion. People only think of the game for it's graphics. It's not just it's graphics. It's the also open-endedness, the physics, the setting, and the ability to wrap all of this around a cohesive and unique (yes, unique) story. The games technical abilities are what enables the player to immerse themselves in the setting and story.

you must be one of those with the mantality that i spent a gazillions dollars on this PC to run this shitty ass game, so i must force myself to think it's good. there is nothing good about the game besides the graphics.

You can think of me as anything you want. This is the Internet and I'm on a forum after all.

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: GaryJohnson
Nice to see System Shock 2 and Deus Ex on the list, but how are they not #1 and #2?

It seems like they intentionally only have one game from a series or franchise on the list. So Sim City, but no Sim City 2000. Mechwarrior 2, but no Mechwarrior 2: Mercenaries. And C&C, but no Red Alert.

Also, they forgot Dark Messiah. Edit: Oh, and they forgot VtM: Bloodlines.

Mech2 mercs was shit compared to the original Mech2

 

[damocles]

No Elite (or at least Privateer), No Ultima 4...

Useless....

(I also thought Total Annihilation was better than C&C)

 

[spittledip]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Beev
See my other post.

Specifically, Call of Duty was very consolized. Think it should be omitted too?

wait, wasn't the original call of duty on PC only? i don't think it was very consolized then. i'm not even sure what you mean by consolized.

Yes it was. We mentioned that earlier. The first one is actually the only one I liked... for that reason also- COD2 felt very console-ish.

 

[Tom]

older games that could be on there..

Populous
Lemmings
Red Baron
Privateer
Dungeon Master
Heretic
Nascar Racing (by Papyrus)
Roller Coaster Tycoon
Railroad Tycoon

 

[NeoV]

any list of best PC games ever without Syndicate is fail

 

[alcoholbob]

In Crysis even on the easiest difficulty setting you have to pump half a clip square into a soldier's chest to take him down, but go into melee and they immediately get taken out.