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JohnAn2112

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: mechBgon
How long is your warranty JLGatsby, out of curiosity? That's a variable that affects the price of Dells a lot. I'm hoping you have at least 1 year?

Warranty is one year. That's one of the reasons I decided not to build yet. I run my business from this computer and I just don't have time to sit there and fiddle with driver/hardware/loose cord/whatever problems every week.

However, I will build my own right after Vista is released. And for those of you look down upon my mighty Dell, prepare to be owned one year from now. Gatsby is going to go all out. I'm saving that "sweet coin." Top of the line dual core AMD, 4 GB ram, 200W phase change overclocking, everything.

Out of my own curiosity, I opened the case to take a gander inside, good heavens, the heatsink in this thing is a monster. It's as big as a small dog.

How do you get computer problems every week? I built my computer a few months back and I have yet to have a single problem and it's on 24/7.
 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: JohnAn2112
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: mechBgon
How long is your warranty JLGatsby, out of curiosity? That's a variable that affects the price of Dells a lot. I'm hoping you have at least 1 year?

Warranty is one year. That's one of the reasons I decided not to build yet. I run my business from this computer and I just don't have time to sit there and fiddle with driver/hardware/loose cord/whatever problems every week.

However, I will build my own right after Vista is released. And for those of you look down upon my mighty Dell, prepare to be owned one year from now. Gatsby is going to go all out. I'm saving that "sweet coin." Top of the line dual core AMD, 4 GB ram, 200W phase change overclocking, everything.

Out of my own curiosity, I opened the case to take a gander inside, good heavens, the heatsink in this thing is a monster. It's as big as a small dog.

How do you get computer problems every week? I built my computer a few months back and I have yet to have a single problem and it's on 24/7.

Reading these forums it's hard not to think a custom built computer is a problem production facility.
 

mechBgon

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And for those of you look down upon my mighty Dell, prepare to be owned one year from now.
I hope your plans for 0wnage are accounting for people who have 15000rpm SCSI with nice properly-working TCQ and sub-4ms seek times ;) ...or beyond. Markfw900's rig comes to mind... :evil:

Anyway, enjoy your new rig :) and if I may make a suggestion, use a Limited-class user account for everything that you can, if it's a business box. Very good boost to security.
 

johnnqq

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i dont get how people are getting quiet dells. mine is a screamer...it must be at least 50db.
 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: mechBgon
And for those of you look down upon my mighty Dell, prepare to be owned one year from now.
I hope your plans for 0wnage are accounting for people who have 15000rpm SCSI with nice properly-working TCQ and sub-4ms seek times ;) ...or beyond. Markfw900's rig comes to mind... :evil:

The 15k RPM HD is in the plans. As for the TCQ part, I'll have to figure out what that is before I implement it. :p

2007 will be the year of the Gatsby. Muahahaa.

Originally posted by: mechBgon
Anyway, enjoy your new rig :) and if I may make a suggestion, use a Limited-class user account for everything that you can, if it's a business box. Very good boost to security.

I operate from home and I am the only user who uses this computer so it's no concern, but thanks for the suggestion.
 

JohnAn2112

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: JohnAn2112
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: mechBgon
How long is your warranty JLGatsby, out of curiosity? That's a variable that affects the price of Dells a lot. I'm hoping you have at least 1 year?

Warranty is one year. That's one of the reasons I decided not to build yet. I run my business from this computer and I just don't have time to sit there and fiddle with driver/hardware/loose cord/whatever problems every week.

However, I will build my own right after Vista is released. And for those of you look down upon my mighty Dell, prepare to be owned one year from now. Gatsby is going to go all out. I'm saving that "sweet coin." Top of the line dual core AMD, 4 GB ram, 200W phase change overclocking, everything.

Out of my own curiosity, I opened the case to take a gander inside, good heavens, the heatsink in this thing is a monster. It's as big as a small dog.

How do you get computer problems every week? I built my computer a few months back and I have yet to have a single problem and it's on 24/7.

Reading these forums it's hard not to think a custom built computer is a problem production facility.

A lot of people who post about their custom computer problems are usually overclocking and are looking to get a stable OC.
 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: JohnAn2112
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: JohnAn2112
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: mechBgon
How long is your warranty JLGatsby, out of curiosity? That's a variable that affects the price of Dells a lot. I'm hoping you have at least 1 year?

Warranty is one year. That's one of the reasons I decided not to build yet. I run my business from this computer and I just don't have time to sit there and fiddle with driver/hardware/loose cord/whatever problems every week.

However, I will build my own right after Vista is released. And for those of you look down upon my mighty Dell, prepare to be owned one year from now. Gatsby is going to go all out. I'm saving that "sweet coin." Top of the line dual core AMD, 4 GB ram, 200W phase change overclocking, everything.

Out of my own curiosity, I opened the case to take a gander inside, good heavens, the heatsink in this thing is a monster. It's as big as a small dog.

How do you get computer problems every week? I built my computer a few months back and I have yet to have a single problem and it's on 24/7.

Reading these forums it's hard not to think a custom built computer is a problem production facility.

A lot of people who post about their custom computer problems are usually overclocking and are looking to get a stable OC.

If I didn't have a warranty on this Dell, I'd be overclocking. If I custom built one, the temptation to overclock would be too great.
 

KaneRobot

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Originally posted by: Waylay00
Oh come on man, build it yourself. It's not that hard at all. If a thirteen year old can do it like me, surely you can. But as long as your happy, I guess it doesn't matter.

Gotta agree there. I was f'ing terrified when I did my first one last year, but between just reading the directions and tutorials like mechBgon's, it honestly wasn't that bad at all. Doing another one this week, actually.

I guess the only way to really know is try it, but I know it's potentially a lot of money to spend to "try" something. Like said above...if you dig what you bought, it's all good.
 

mechBgon

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I operate from home and I am the only user who uses this computer so it's no concern, but thanks for the suggestion.
I am also the only user of my computers, both at home and at work. Having read thousands of malware descriptions as a sysadmin, I see great value in using a Limited-class account for all daily-driver stuff, and only breaking out the Admin-level powers when they're needed. Think it over, it's the best antispyware protection available to a Windows user and also thwarts a huge selection of Trojans, worms and viruses. If you use a browser, an IM client or an email program, run it under a Limited account, that's my advice.

I might add that the majority of my work fleet are rigs similar or identical to the one in my building guide (link in signature) and they're nice. I think I've got about 36 to 38 of them now, some approaching 3 years old. Heck, the first ones might be past 3 years old now... well anyway, if/when you build, it sounds like you know enough to not buy cheap junk like no-name RAM and PSUs, and that's a good start.
 
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There's nothing wrong in buying a Dell and I can see buying the computer instead of building if it's for a business. I wouldn't want downtime, because it's my first build. You get a warranty with a prebuilt where you get a warranty with your build but it's with your components not with you whole computer and besides a lot of OEM parts have limited warranties.
 

mechBgon

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Oh, and...
The 15k RPM HD is in the plans. As for the TCQ part, I'll have to figure out what that is before I implement it.

2007 will be the year of the Gatsby. Muahahaa.
You mean five 15k drives. And the dual Opteron 275's, and the $700 133MHz PCI-X SCSI RAID controller with the on-card battery backup and 128MB cache. Right? ;)

Mark's talking about picking up a couple of quad-core Oppies if they're out when he gets his house paid off. So keep it realistic here, it's not easy to be the top dawg at AnandTech Forums these days ;)
 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: mechBgon
Oh, and...
The 15k RPM HD is in the plans. As for the TCQ part, I'll have to figure out what that is before I implement it.

2007 will be the year of the Gatsby. Muahahaa.
You mean five 15k drives. And the dual Opteron 275's, and the $700 133MHz PCI-X SCSI RAID controller with the on-card battery backup and 128MB cache. Right? ;)

Mark's talking about picking up a couple of quad-core Oppies if they're out when he gets his house paid off. So keep it realistic here, it's not easy to be the top dawg at AnandTech Forums these days ;)

But the question should be asked, what's better, 4 500GB HDs @ 7200 RPM (storage drives) with one 15k HD for main use, or 5 15k HDs? I'm not looking to get into a spending contest, just to have the superior rig.

What's the highest you can get a15k HD? 147GB? Five of them, that's a total of 735GB. That's not a lot if you're looking to be king of anything.

The budget I had in my head was $8,000 or so without monitor, we'll see what I can do with that in late 2006.
 

mechBgon

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What's the highest you can get a15k HD? 147GB? Five of them, that's a total of 735GB. That's not a lot if you're looking to be king of anything.
I think that's what Mark's other 12 computers are for, is mundane things like bulk storage and entertaining his offspring.

BTW if you want to be king of something, be king of the 23" monitors, get a couple of these sweet HP 23" LCDs :Q Your eyeballs will be lookin' like this --> :):)
 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: mechBgon
What's the highest you can get a15k HD? 147GB? Five of them, that's a total of 735GB. That's not a lot if you're looking to be king of anything.
I think that's what Mark's other 12 computers are for, is mundane things like bulk storage and entertaining his offspring.

BTW if you want to be king of something, be king of the 23" monitors, get a couple of these sweet HP 23" LCDs :Q Your eyeballs will be lookin' like this --> :):)

That's weak. For a computer LCD, the Dell 24inch is the way to go.

I was at an eletronics store and I saw a 50 something inch plasma TV. I wondered if that be used as a computer monitor.
 

0roo0roo

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self built isn't for everyone. some people just self build to save money, adding a part here, a part there, building another computer from left overs and such. or for tweaking. the retail pc's now are cheap and decently powerful/well built now. no more days of the horrid packard bells ;)

still, upgrading a dell isn't that great, so its not perfect.
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: mechBgon
What's the highest you can get a15k HD? 147GB? Five of them, that's a total of 735GB. That's not a lot if you're looking to be king of anything.
I think that's what Mark's other 12 computers are for, is mundane things like bulk storage and entertaining his offspring.

BTW if you want to be king of something, be king of the 23" monitors, get a couple of these sweet HP 23" LCDs :Q Your eyeballs will be lookin' like this --> :):)

That's weak. For a computer LCD, the Dell 24inch is the way to go.

I was at an eletronics store and I saw a 50 something inch plasma TV. I wondered if that be used as a computer monitor.

what's up with all the silliness, Gatsby?
 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: mechBgon
What's the highest you can get a15k HD? 147GB? Five of them, that's a total of 735GB. That's not a lot if you're looking to be king of anything.
I think that's what Mark's other 12 computers are for, is mundane things like bulk storage and entertaining his offspring.

BTW if you want to be king of something, be king of the 23" monitors, get a couple of these sweet HP 23" LCDs :Q Your eyeballs will be lookin' like this --> :):)

That's weak. For a computer LCD, the Dell 24inch is the way to go.

I was at an eletronics store and I saw a 50 something inch plasma TV. I wondered if that be used as a computer monitor.

what's up with all the silliness, Gatsby?

No silliness. My business is set to take off in 2006. I have no other hobbies except computers.