Tony Stewart killed a 20 year old dirt track driver....

[norseamd]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ncident-involving-tony-stewart-and-kevin-ward

 

[Attic]

to be fair, with the way that stupid fuck just marched right out onto the track. It could just as easily have been the car he had to jump out of the way for a few seconds before. Kid fucked up, paid for it.

Yep, dumb and 20. Was not thinking well at all, super super risky behavior, and yes, paid for it.

 

[xBiffx]

Lots of ignorance out there. First, I don't for a second believe this was intentional. Second, these types of cars are steering not only with the steering wheel but also with the throttle. My guess is that Stewart saw the guy at the last second (considering the lighting and the color of his race suit and the background of the same color car) and gunned the engine to try and avoid. The kid was a complete moron for running down the track as he did. Heck the car (43?) right in front of Stewart's had to swerve to narrowly avoid him as well.

The comment about Stewart requesting that the right rear tire be changed is fucking ignorance to the max. No one, especially Stewart is going to try and cover up something like this. Couple that with the fact that they often change the tires after a race. They don't roll the car back to the hauler on the same tires used for racing. Also, if there was in fact a GoPro camera in Stewart's car you can be sure that Stewart will surely turn it over, willingly. That person who made these comments is a complete idiot.

My guess is that Stewart will be cleared of criminal charges but he will most likely face a wrongful death suit from the family of the other driver. This will cost him loads of money. He will also likely have some sponsor issues as well. I would guess that his Sprint Cup days will be coming to an end sooner or later.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Pretty obvious Tony was sending a message by flooring it. I don't think he meant to hit him but as a result of him showing his ass he killed someone. Sure the kid shares some blame but he didn't do anything that hasn't been done on many racetracks across the country.

 

[Kneedragger]

Wow that is pretty sad.

That kid shouldn't have ran out on the track, plain and simple. He didn't just stand there by his car he ran in the middle of the fucking track.

I really feel bad for his families loss but jesus!!

Whether Tony did it on purpose he has to live with what hapened..

 

[Pr0d1gy]

Oh, Tony Stewart couldn't have done something bad. He is a rich man on my TV every weekend.

 

[Paratus]

Lots of ignorance out there. First, I don't for a second believe this was intentional. Second, these types of cars are steering not only with the steering wheel but also with the throttle. My guess is that Stewart saw the guy at the last second (considering the lighting and the color of his race suit and the background of the same color car) and gunned the engine to try and avoid. The kid was a complete moron for running down the track as he did. Heck the car (43?) right in front of Stewart's had to swerve to narrowly avoid him as well.

The comment about Stewart requesting that the right rear tire be changed is fucking ignorance to the max. No one, especially Stewart is going to try and cover up something like this. Couple that with the fact that they often change the tires after a race. They don't roll the car back to the hauler on the same tires used for racing. Also, if there was in fact a GoPro camera in Stewart's car you can be sure that Stewart will surely turn it over, willingly. That person who made these comments is a complete idiot.

My guess is that Stewart will be cleared of criminal charges but he will most likely face a wrongful death suit from the family of the other driver. This will cost him loads of money. He will also likely have some sponsor issues as well. I would guess that his Sprint Cup days will be coming to an end sooner or later.

After watching the video this seems likely to me as well.

 

[Jaskalas]

I don't see a need for Tony to hit the throttle.

Those with experience with sports cars will tell you that you can hit the throttle to "drive" into the turn. To turn at high speed, maybe if you were trying to avoid something right in front of you.

 

[mnewsham]

Those with experience with sports cars will tell you that you can hit the throttle to "drive" into the turn. To turn at high speed, maybe if you were trying to avoid something right in front of you.

Yuuuup, first thing I thought, even sorta looks like that is what happened as tony looks to have hit him with the side of the car not the front tire, as if he were turning and trying to throttle hard to pull the car closer down on the turn. Back tires gave out and he slide sideways and makes contact.

 

[norseamd]

Those with experience with sports cars will tell you that you can hit the throttle to "drive" into the turn. To turn at high speed, maybe if you were trying to avoid something right in front of you.

Not sure but I think that you are supposed to drive out of the turn not into it. I have not watched the full video so I am not sure is this is applicable.

 

[notposting]

I'm not a race car driver and even I know that high horsepower, dirt, and flooring it near another human equals bad things. If this isn't murder then it's negligent homicide.

I'm not a race car driver, but even I know walking out onto the middle of the interstate by me equals bad things. If this isn't a straight up example of a Darwin incident then it's definitely not any sort of crime.

 

[Jaskalas]

Not sure but I think that you are supposed to drive out of the turn not into it. I have not watched the full video so I am not sure is this is applicable.

I'll defer to others experience and terminology. I probably misused it. Still, the throttle has its place in making a sharp turn.

 

[notposting]

Pretty obvious Tony was sending a message by flooring it. I don't think he meant to hit him but as a result of him showing his ass he killed someone. Sure the kid shares some blame but he didn't do anything that hasn't been done on many racetracks across the country.

Showing his ass? THE MORON RAN DOWN IN FRONT :hmm:

When I first saw something about this story (note: I had no idea who Tony Stewart was before this, don't follow racing) I kind of assumed, especially from all the descriptions, that he went up by the wall and then goosed it to kick out and hit the guy.

THEN I WATCHED THE VIDEO WHERE THE IDIOT RAN AT HIM

 

[waggy]

Lots of ignorance out there. First, I don't for a second believe this was intentional. Second, these types of cars are steering not only with the steering wheel but also with the throttle. My guess is that Stewart saw the guy at the last second (considering the lighting and the color of his race suit and the background of the same color car) and gunned the engine to try and avoid. The kid was a complete moron for running down the track as he did. Heck the car (43?) right in front of Stewart's had to swerve to narrowly avoid him as well.

The comment about Stewart requesting that the right rear tire be changed is fucking ignorance to the max. No one, especially Stewart is going to try and cover up something like this. Couple that with the fact that they often change the tires after a race. They don't roll the car back to the hauler on the same tires used for racing. Also, if there was in fact a GoPro camera in Stewart's car you can be sure that Stewart will surely turn it over, willingly. That person who made these comments is a complete idiot.

My guess is that Stewart will be cleared of criminal charges but he will most likely face a wrongful death suit from the family of the other driver. This will cost him loads of money. He will also likely have some sponsor issues as well. I would guess that his Sprint Cup days will be coming to an end sooner or later.

/this

I put the blame on the idiot going into the path of race cars. last thing a driver expects is a idiot on the track.

There is no cover up. There si no conspiracy

i agree with biff in that he is going to be cleared but face a suit from the family

edit: forgot to mention. those are also called outlaws, midget cars etc. they are great for kids and young teens to race (i did it when younger but a expensive sport and i sucked). YOU hit the gas in a turn. that way you SLIDE around the turn.

also take into account the track is poorly lite and the idiot was wearing BLACK.

 

[Attic]

Those with experience with sports cars will tell you that you can hit the throttle to "drive" into the turn. To turn at high speed, maybe if you were trying to avoid something right in front of you.

This makes sense if the kid was in the direct line of Tony's car.

Though I think it makes sense that the kid was not in the line of the car, for obvious reasons. Did he (the kid) simply misjudge? Did Tony misjudge? Clearly the kid was overly aggressive as we see by the first car that passes by and had to swerve.

I'm not clear on the line of Tony's car or the kids position in relation to it from the vid.

We are talking heat of the moment for everything going on it a matter of seconds as it happened in reality vs our ability to sit here and value/judge/think critically over minutes/hours.

I'm personally quite certain Tony didn't intend to harm the kid, but i'm not convinced the kid was in a position that required the throttle yet (though this appears the most likely scenario-Tony throttled to avoid).

There's the possibility that if Tony doesn't throttle that he hits the kid dead on, instead of with the rear. All dependent on position of Kid to Tony's car. From what i'm seeing/reading, it looks fairly clear that a throttle was used to avoid, not scare/intimidate this young kid.

These things are typically not a one and done issue, ex) Tony wanted to harm kid or not, ex) Kid in direct line of Tony's car or not.

We've got, amongst others:
1) Night Race
2) Young kid (super risky behavior w/ little experience)
3) Heat of moment
4) Tony behind other car
5) Kid Judging cars coming around corner
6) Wet track
7) Kid wearing black
8) Tony not expecting driver on the course
9) Driver directly in front of Tony having to swerve (perhaps blockin Tony's view further of what was ahead on the track)
10) Mud track

I think a lot of unfortunate events had to come together to end up with the kid dead, not just one.

 

[BUTCH1]

The video is horrific and very stragic.. Tony Stewart is going to jail for a long time. Only 17. RIP. Nascar needs to also institute a new rule giving any driver that walks out of the car onto the track an automatic 3 race suspension

Did you bother to read any of the many links provided?, he was 20, not 17. Seems IMO that TS was going to "send the dude a message" by gunning it as he passed by, probably didn't think the dude was gonna get that close to his car and hit him by accident. Really dumb by both drivers, yea, it's been done before but it's still a dumb and dangerous thing to do, this could land TS in serious trouble, a lot will be learned if the Go-Pro was filming when he hit him, that would yield indisputable proof that TS was attempting to intimidate the kid as he passed by..

 

[SPBHM]

You're an idiot.

I reported your post, hopefully the mods will take action, the only content of your post is an insult, and nothing else,

I'm not a race car driver and even I know that high horsepower, dirt, and flooring it near another human equals bad things. If this isn't murder then it's negligent homicide.

you should also know not to walk on a race track with multiple cars around just to show your frustration to another driver, what he did was bizarre, race drivers should stay on the car and get out of the track once it's safe, not walk towards the cars on the middle of race track.

 

[cronos]

Lots of ignorance out there. First, I don't for a second believe this was intentional. Second, these types of cars are steering not only with the steering wheel but also with the throttle. My guess is that Stewart saw the guy at the last second (considering the lighting and the color of his race suit and the background of the same color car) and gunned the engine to try and avoid. The kid was a complete moron for running down the track as he did. Heck the car (43?) right in front of Stewart's had to swerve to narrowly avoid him as well.

The comment about Stewart requesting that the right rear tire be changed is fucking ignorance to the max. No one, especially Stewart is going to try and cover up something like this. Couple that with the fact that they often change the tires after a race. They don't roll the car back to the hauler on the same tires used for racing. Also, if there was in fact a GoPro camera in Stewart's car you can be sure that Stewart will surely turn it over, willingly. That person who made these comments is a complete idiot.

My guess is that Stewart will be cleared of criminal charges but he will most likely face a wrongful death suit from the family of the other driver. This will cost him loads of money. He will also likely have some sponsor issues as well. I would guess that his Sprint Cup days will be coming to an end sooner or later.

Not to mention the psychological damage of ending another person's life. All because of a road rage that backfired.

 

[BUTCH1]

I reported your post, hopefully the mods will take action, the only content of your post is an insult, and nothing else,



you should also know not to walk on a race track with multiple cars around just to show your frustration to another driver, what he did was bizarre, race drivers should stay on the car and get out of the track once it's safe, not walk towards the cars on the middle of race track.

Somehow I doubt that being called an "idiot" is going to land OT in any trouble, if things were that strict in OT half the members would be banned.

 

[_Rick_]

Somehow I doubt that being called an "idiot" is going to land OT in any trouble, if things were that strict in OT half the members would be banned.

Meh, the things I got warnings for, this one would be right among them. Depending on the posters previous history, and the PMS-level of the mod having to deal with the report, who knows what can happen :awe:

Anyway, could someone fix the completely false thread title?
Except for "Tony Stewart" and "dirt track" there is literally nothing correct in the title.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

You can tell who are the toof- less NASCAR fans in here. "No way Tony ran that kid over". Although kid was retreating and Tony went out of his to run the kid over. There was no reason for Tony to be that high up on the track. He road raged and killed the guy.

 

[MrCassdin]

Stewart has always been douchebag, I am not surprised by this. He's a fat, rich boy who has always been fed from a silver spoon and is used to getting what he wants and stepping on those in his way - in this case, running them over. IMO of course.

 

[LTC8K6]

Tony would certainly have expected that the other driver would be waiting for him. This is very common, and Tony has done the same thing himself when he was mad at another driver.

 

[mnewsham]

Tony would certainly have expected that the other driver would be waiting for him. This is very common, and Tony has done the same thing himself when he was mad at another driver.

Proof? I know it happens. But it's not exactly common. Especially not to the extent this kid went to... at night, wearing all black, on a dark brown dirt track...

 

[xBiffx]

Tony would certainly have expected that the other driver would be waiting for him. This is very common, and Tony has done the same thing himself when he was mad at another driver.

Bullshit. This is not common at all. Stop lying.

When was the last time you can show that a driver exited their vehicle to show their anger towards another driver before the safety crew was there? Pretty much every time a driver goes off like this, it is well after the incident when the track is well aware of the caution condition (i.e. drivers know the reason for the caution and are able to recognize the safety crew's position).

Last time I remember Stewart going off was at Bristol when he threw his helmet at Matt Kenseth's car. That happened several minutes after the incident when Stewart was being walked across pit road by safety crew members.

Bottom line, this kid surrendered the safety of his vehicle and placed himself in harms way. He paid the ultimate price for doing so.