Tonight's SERIES FINALE Episode of Battlestar Galactica [03-20-2009]...

[sandmanwake]

Give up all their technologies and start from scratch. I thought they wanted to "break the cycle", but didn't humans do the exact same thing before when they left Kobol and founded the original 13 colonies? Seems like by forgetting history, they're dooming humans to repeat history and continue the cycle rather than break it.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: sandmanwake
Give up all their technologies and start from scratch. I thought they wanted to "break the cycle", but didn't humans do the exact same thing before when they left Kobol and founded the original 13 colonies? Seems like by forgetting history, they're dooming humans to repeat history and continue the cycle rather than break it.

Good point. It seems to me that Technology wasn't really the issue, it was AI. It would make more sense to maintain a High Technology culture, but simply forbid AI type technology. To avoid repeating the cycle would require a longterm strategy and passing pertinent information onto future generations.

Simply disappearing into History doesn't accomplish that.

 

[Newbian]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: sandmanwake
Give up all their technologies and start from scratch. I thought they wanted to "break the cycle", but didn't humans do the exact same thing before when they left Kobol and founded the original 13 colonies? Seems like by forgetting history, they're dooming humans to repeat history and continue the cycle rather than break it.

Good point. It seems to me that Technology wasn't really the issue, it was AI. It would make more sense to maintain a High Technology culture, but simply forbid AI type technology. To avoid repeating the cycle would require a longterm strategy and passing pertinent information onto future generations.

Simply disappearing into History doesn't accomplish that.

They talked about how if the cycle goes on long enough it should fix itself eventually.

 

[Uhtrinity]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: sandmanwake
Give up all their technologies and start from scratch. I thought they wanted to "break the cycle", but didn't humans do the exact same thing before when they left Kobol and founded the original 13 colonies? Seems like by forgetting history, they're dooming humans to repeat history and continue the cycle rather than break it.

Good point. It seems to me that Technology wasn't really the issue, it was AI. It would make more sense to maintain a High Technology culture, but simply forbid AI type technology. To avoid repeating the cycle would require a longterm strategy and passing pertinent information onto future generations.

Simply disappearing into History doesn't accomplish that.

Dune anyone?

 

[sandmanwake]

Originally posted by: Uhtrinity

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: sandmanwake
Give up all their technologies and start from scratch. I thought they wanted to "break the cycle", but didn't humans do the exact same thing before when they left Kobol and founded the original 13 colonies? Seems like by forgetting history, they're dooming humans to repeat history and continue the cycle rather than break it.

Good point. It seems to me that Technology wasn't really the issue, it was AI. It would make more sense to maintain a High Technology culture, but simply forbid AI type technology. To avoid repeating the cycle would require a longterm strategy and passing pertinent information onto future generations.

Simply disappearing into History doesn't accomplish that.

Dune anyone?

I disagree about the problem being AI. The problem was that despite the machines having intelligence, humans still treated them as slaves and that's what caused the Cylons in the 12 colonies to attack and it was what caused the Centurions on original Earth to kill all the human Cylons. The Final Five traveled to the 12 colonies to warn the humans there not to make the same mistake and to instead treat the intelligent machines as equals rather than as slaves.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: sandmanwake

Originally posted by: Uhtrinity

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: sandmanwake
Give up all their technologies and start from scratch. I thought they wanted to "break the cycle", but didn't humans do the exact same thing before when they left Kobol and founded the original 13 colonies? Seems like by forgetting history, they're dooming humans to repeat history and continue the cycle rather than break it.

Good point. It seems to me that Technology wasn't really the issue, it was AI. It would make more sense to maintain a High Technology culture, but simply forbid AI type technology. To avoid repeating the cycle would require a longterm strategy and passing pertinent information onto future generations.

Simply disappearing into History doesn't accomplish that.

Dune anyone?

I disagree about the problem being AI. The problem was that despite the machines having intelligence, humans still treated them as slaves and that's what caused the Cylons in the 12 colonies to attack and it was what caused the Centurions on original Earth to kill all the human Cylons. The Final Five traveled to the 12 colonies to warn the humans there not to make the same mistake and to instead treat the intelligent machines as equals rather than as slaves.

That makes sense. I guess that means no Sexbots for us.

 

[nestlewater]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: sandmanwake

Originally posted by: Uhtrinity

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: sandmanwake
Give up all their technologies and start from scratch. I thought they wanted to "break the cycle", but didn't humans do the exact same thing before when they left Kobol and founded the original 13 colonies? Seems like by forgetting history, they're dooming humans to repeat history and continue the cycle rather than break it.

Good point. It seems to me that Technology wasn't really the issue, it was AI. It would make more sense to maintain a High Technology culture, but simply forbid AI type technology. To avoid repeating the cycle would require a longterm strategy and passing pertinent information onto future generations.

Simply disappearing into History doesn't accomplish that.

Dune anyone?

I disagree about the problem being AI. The problem was that despite the machines having intelligence, humans still treated them as slaves and that's what caused the Cylons in the 12 colonies to attack and it was what caused the Centurions on original Earth to kill all the human Cylons. The Final Five traveled to the 12 colonies to warn the humans there not to make the same mistake and to instead treat the intelligent machines as equals rather than as slaves.

That makes sense. I guess that means no Sexbots for us.

Probably all the guys that watch this show sees what they want to see, as in "sexbots". I know that was one of the primary reason for me. Relationship is good/bad and LOVE-ing the faults of your counterpart. Sexbot = just awesome.

Time and Time again, you go into a relationship THINKING blinded by physical needs that this might just work out, that she/he will love you, but all you get is trouble with some SEX on the side.

LAME..... I can't wait for sexbots.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: nestlewater

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: sandmanwake

Originally posted by: Uhtrinity

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: sandmanwake
Give up all their technologies and start from scratch. I thought they wanted to "break the cycle", but didn't humans do the exact same thing before when they left Kobol and founded the original 13 colonies? Seems like by forgetting history, they're dooming humans to repeat history and continue the cycle rather than break it.

Good point. It seems to me that Technology wasn't really the issue, it was AI. It would make more sense to maintain a High Technology culture, but simply forbid AI type technology. To avoid repeating the cycle would require a longterm strategy and passing pertinent information onto future generations.

Simply disappearing into History doesn't accomplish that.

Dune anyone?

I disagree about the problem being AI. The problem was that despite the machines having intelligence, humans still treated them as slaves and that's what caused the Cylons in the 12 colonies to attack and it was what caused the Centurions on original Earth to kill all the human Cylons. The Final Five traveled to the 12 colonies to warn the humans there not to make the same mistake and to instead treat the intelligent machines as equals rather than as slaves.

That makes sense. I guess that means no Sexbots for us.

Probably all the guys that watch this show sees what they want to see, as in "sexbots". I know that was one of the primary reason for me. Relationship is good/bad and LOVE-ing the faults of your counterpart. Sexbot = just awesome.

Time and Time again, you go into a relationship THINKING blinded by physical needs that this might just work out, that she/he will love you, but all you get is trouble with some SEX on the side.

LAME..... I can't wait for sexbots.

No, it will be our Doom.

 

[cw42]

After watching the finale, I just re-watched the opening mini movie again and thought... DAMN! What a great show. o snap, you're a cylon... you're a cylong, you're a cylon, oh and you too!

 

[Praxis1452]

Ugh fuuuuuucking hate this bulllllshit.

Intense first 50 minutes but the ending was horrible.

Tyrol deciding to off her right there. Ugh someone should have just shot him, everything's about to work out, and he kills her and causes the annihilation of the entire cylon race. Then he gets to go be emo in ireland? Oh and what is so important about hera? She's NOT! The final 5 could have come up with resurrection tech as they said. Give it to the humans, who then become cylon's. I'm not sure about you, but if you couldn't die, I'd think you'd take life a lot less seriously. If life is infinite then everything comes in time. "OMG the solution to cylon v. cylon war", Everything comes because you can't die, no point in killing each other.

There, everybody wins. The end. But no, it's some retarded bullshit about god. I'm fine with Baltar's angels in fact, I loved his and caprica six's characters. Interesting and I always wanted them to be together, but really, Starbuck, one of the most interesting character's is disregarded entirely. Her relationship with that first cylon she meets, her resurrection, her ship, her purpose. It's not even god for her, it's nothing. Or it's god. Both totally useless explanations. Using supernatural events in SCI-FI should be totally banned.

 

[oogabooga]

Originally posted by: cw42
After watching the finale, I just re-watched the opening mini movie again and thought... DAMN! What a great show. o snap, you're a cylon... you're a cylong, you're a cylon, oh and you too!

To be fair that's pretty similar to what the guy who wrote the mini-series must feel : "hehe.. you're a cylon and everyone knows it... o snap.. we turned you into a cylon! hehe! You're a cylon too? You too? Oh no not ... oh man, you too?"

 

[Goosemaster]

As I think back the other scifi that I have experienced, BSG ranks amoung the best with respect to its character and scene development. I would think it very hard to create characters that can evoke deep emotion in a viewer, and the people behind the show executed this marvelously. The ad-hoc start to the show made character development depend almost competely on their present timeline, disproportionate to the backstory, and the character growth downright amazing for a movie, much less a TV show.

As for the plot, while imperfect, it was incredibly entertaining and cohesive enough to enjoy. It never managed to stifle imagination, managing to continuously execute cliffhangers that kept us talking and watching every week, every month, and every year.

I have always enjoyed scifi for its abilility to explore our wildest dreams, and was incredibly entertained during the entire sceries. The set designers, animators, the entire crew in general, did an incredible job and made every episode a sight to see and experience. Not enough credit could ever be given to their staff for the marvelous work that they have given us over the years.

I was finished the episode all I could think was, my, that was fun.

 

[Babbles]

This morning I was watching a show about Neanderthals on the National Geographic channel. The mentioned Eve a bit, and I thought "Don't they mean Hera??!!" These National Geo guys really don't know the true history of our species, do they?

 

[Raduque]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: lupi

the viper adama flew off BSG looked like it had a pilot plate that said hustler, anyone remember him in the series at anytime?

the viper adama flew off BSG looked like it had a pilot plate that said hustler, anyone remember him in the series at anytime?
In Razor we see that HUSKER, not hustler, is Adama's call sign. That's what the viper had on it.

Yep, that was Adama's old Viper. William "Husker" Adama.

 

[Aharami]

i loved and hated the ending. The final few scenes evoked an odd sad feeling in me - like they are so lonely now. But part of me is ticked off about using god's hand as an answer for everything. And I wish they'd alluded to them wanting to shed their tech in prior few episodes. Would've made it easier to swallow them making such a huge decision. The show made it seem like they decided to shed their tech on a whim. It's like "oh hey, we're ok now. We dont need all this technology to protect us anymore, so lets ditch all of it and go back a few hundred millennia to back breaking labor to provide the basic necessities of day to day life.

 

[nageov3t]

TVGuide.com: The writers started deciding a year ago what would happen in the finale. How long ago did you structure the way you wanted the finale to be written ? how much would be battle scenes and how much would be the resolution on the new Earth?
Ron Moore: [By the midpoint of the season] we had revealed the origins of the final five, we had found the original Earth, we had dealt with all the backstories of people... there was a laundry list of things that were out of the way. Then it became about, what do we do in the finale and we started focusing on what is the story? What is the plot? It was clear it would be a rescue mission of Hera. Then we kind of got blacked out on the details of the assault, and what was the trick, and where were they going to jump in, and who was on what assault force ? and this became very frustrating and annoying.

I went home and had an epiphany in the shower and said, "It's the characters, stupid!" And it really always has been, and I went back the next day and said, "Let's forget about the plot for a moment and just trust that it will work itself out, because it always does. What do we want the characters to deal with; let's talk about the individual stories and resolutions." I just had an image of someone in their house chasing a bird from the room, I didn't know what it meant but it's an image and let's put it on the board. I think it was [David] Weddle who said he was interested in seeing where the characters had come from before we got to the end, and then we kind of came up with this structure of flashbacks to show you where they end up after seeing where they came from and that formed the backbone of what the finale was going to be.

TVGuide.com: Why did you choose to have most of the flashbacks in the last two episodes instead of spreading them out more uniformly throughout the series?
Moore: I think we used them when we thought it was appropriate, I mean, we have sort of used them here and there throughout the show, but it was more to inform something important about a character. To connect you to... how the past is influencing the future and how the persons involved... you can give a clearer picture of them. And when we were approaching the finale, I just kept feeling like, and in order to understand the end you need to understand the beginning. We kept going back to the miniseries, talking about where the show had begun, where the characters had started, and it felt like the end of the show should also be about the beginning.

TVGuide.com: Were the Lee, Zak and Kara flashbacks your way of telling us that Lee and Kara were wonderful, but were never meant to be together?
Moore: Yeah, I kind of felt that Kara and Lee had never really left a moment in time on the table. They were kind of trapped in that moment perpetually of wanting, longing, feeling but never being able to fully enjoy it or fully embrace it. They just really never left that place as characters.

TVGuide.com: What exactly is Kara at the end of the series? An angel?
Moore: I think Kara remains an ambiguous figure. Kara lived a mortal life, died and was resurrected to get them to their final destiny. Clearly she was a key player in the events that led to [the fleet's] finding a home. And, I don't know if there's any more to it beyond that. I think you could call her an angel, you could call her a demon, the second coming or the first coming, I guess, chronologically speaking. You can say that she had a certain messiah-like quality, in the classic resurrection story. There's a lot of different ways you can look at it, but the more we talked about it, the more we realized there was more in the ambiguity and mystery of it than there was in trying to give it more definition in the end.

TVGuide.com: So she is completely different than the hallucination/visions of Baltar and Six?
Moore: Yes, Kara was physically among us. Everybody saw her. She was tactile, she flew a viper, she was around. She was with us. And yet, there was a body that died on the original Earth, and Baltar did the DNA analysis and it was her body, so she was literally brought back from the dead by something ? by some higher power or other power, and she came back to serve a function.

TVGuide.com: Why did Hera survive when other Cylon babies and hybrid attempts did not?
Moore: The Cylons had attempted other hybrids because we had "The Farm" episode and they were attempting in all sorts of manner to have some kind of Cylon children in whatever form... I don't know that there is any rational explanation for [Hera's] existence other than it's part of some larger plan. That she was part of the other entity that doesn't like to be called God. Whatever that is, and whatever that power is, wanted Hera alone to survive as part of the story. In the show, there was a theory among the Cylons that thing that was missing was God's true love. That was part of the explanation for why they had failed. And that was why they did the initial experiment with Helo and Sharon back on Caprica in the first season. They had tried the farms, they had tried artificial insemination and all these things but there was a theory among them that maybe it was God's true love that was missing. So they set up an experiment where Helo would believe that was the Sharon he knew and would fall in love with her naturally, and that she might come to really love him, and then maybe a child would be born. And, that's exactly what ended up happening.

TVGuide.com: Hera is a fascinating character because of her power. She saved Roslin for a while by giving her blood, but was the connection between the two more than blood- deep?
Moore: Yep, it was definitely a spiritual connection. And, the spiritual component of the show was just there from the beginning. It was always a part of the show. There's a certainly a section of science fiction fandom that has always had a problem with that. They resolutely didn't want supernatural, mystical or divine presence in the show whatsoever, and were sort of put off by that, or at least had trouble accepting that. But I just thought that was part and parcel of what we did. It was our take on this part of this particular universe, and to me, it was as important in the end as it was in the beginning. It would have been strange to make it all scientifically rational at the end and that it had no other purpose or meaning, because that was sort of the premise from which we began.

TVGuide.com: Why did you choose to end the show with Six and Baltar walking through Times Square?
Moore: Two things: One, Dave Eick and I had the image of number Six walking through Times Square in her red dress a couple of years ago. We thought potentially that that was just a great visual note to end on. And that also came out of the idea that we eventually wanted the show to directly relate to us. That the show was always intended to be relevant and be current to our society and lives and that it wasn't completely escapist ? "Oh here's a story about a bunch of people who are not related to us on Earth at all." We wanted it to ultimately circle back and say look, these people were our forbearers; in a real sense what happened to them, could happen to us. Look around you. Wake up. Think about the society that you live in and we wanted to make that literal at the end.

TVGuide.com: Can you explain the idea behind using "All Along the Watchtower" as a sort of unconscious constant for both Cylons and humans?
Moore: I was always fascinated by the idea that music is this thing that musicians catch out of the air, from the ether. They just pluck it out of nowhere and you hear it and it's beautiful and moving, and it touches us in a way that we can't even understand. Well, where does it come from? It feels like it lives somehow in the collective unconscious or it's a constant in the universe. So, here's a song that transcends the eons and that was around and was somehow divinely inspired or has some connection to the greater energy of the universe. It existed tens of thousands of years ago, and through time people somehow heard it, plucked it out of the air and shared it with the people around them. That happed with Anders, to Kara and it happened to Bob Dylan!

TVGuide.com: I know this is a Sophie's Choice kind of decision, but do you have a favorite moment from the finale?
Moore: I think the moment when Kara jumps the ship and when we pan up seeing the Earth rise up from the moon was probably my favorite moment because it really is the end point ? in terms of story ? from where we began. I mean that was the promise from the miniseries that we'll find a place called Earth, and here it is. So there was a tremendous amount of satisfaction seeing that finally happen.

TVGuide.com: And it was such a gorgeous shot...
Moore: It was inspired by two different photos: the famous shot they took on Apollo 8 of Earth's rise over the moon, and then the actual image of Earth we used. We drew upon the Apollo 17 shot ? there's a big famous picture of the full Earth that they took on Apollo 17, so we took liberties with both of those and combined them.

TVGuide.com: Any word on when we'll get to see the final prequel movie, "The Plan?"
Moore: Don't have a date for it yet, but they said that it's gonna be in the fall some time, possibly in November. But, there's no firm date for that.

TVGuide.com: What's the deal with this Battlestar movie that's being made ? it's not your version of Battlestar?
Moore: Well I don't really know anything about it. They didn't talk to me before they made the deal with Glen Larson, so I don't really know much about it.

TVGuide.com: So they never approached you about a movie?
Moore: Nope. They never picked up the phone. Let's put it that way. But that's OK because I had kind of put the word out that for quite a while that I didn't think that our version of Galactica was going to lend itself to a feature film. I knew that we wanted to end the series the way that we did, and it really wraps up the show. There's really not a story to tell after the finale that would be Battlestar Galactica.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: loki8481

TVGuide.com: What's the deal with this Battlestar movie that's being made ? it's not your version of Battlestar?
Moore: Well I don't really know anything about it. They didn't talk to me before they made the deal with Glen Larson, so I don't really know much about it.

TVGuide.com: So they never approached you about a movie?
Moore: Nope. They never picked up the phone. Let's put it that way. But that's OK because I had kind of put the word out that for quite a while that I didn't think that our version of Galactica was going to lend itself to a feature film. I knew that we wanted to end the series the way that we did, and it really wraps up the show. There's really not a story to tell after the finale that would be Battlestar Galactica.

wtf? Glen Larson is going to make his own Battlestar movie? And it won't be related to the new series but based on the original series?
I wonder if he has the movie rights for a movie based on the old series and he is capitalizing on the success of the new series?
This is some seriously f*cked up shit. Glen Larson is not exactly noted for quality entertainment (need I mention "Manimal"?)

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: lupi
so I was thinking, about 40 thousand people with equipment get dropped onto the earth, with no apparent motivation to hide themselves among the populace, and we're to believe that there was never any indication discovered of post-prehistoric technology?

Hey, there are many people who believe that dinosaur bones were put here by God to test the faithful.
I find it believable that 30 thousand people living 150,000 years ago could disappear without a trace. It's only thru amazing coincidences that we can find any human remains at all from that long ago.

almost 40 thousand people drop onto the planet, with sufficient knowledge to rebuild a good part of civilization right away. Just because they don't doesn't mean within a generation all that knowledge just goes away; they even made records were the different groups were being situated and supplying the info to all the other groups. The very ending 150000 year leap makes it seem that everybody just built themselves a hole to lie in and died. We're talking about a lot of people that had been fearing for their lives with minimal room to live/privacy for quite some time. I imagine there would be a good amount of procreation going on. That last minute or so of the ending was pretty much a big middle finger from the producer to anyone else trying to do anything else with this version of BSG and fairly crappy at that.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: lupi
so I was thinking, about 40 thousand people with equipment get dropped onto the earth, with no apparent motivation to hide themselves among the populace, and we're to believe that there was never any indication discovered of post-prehistoric technology?

Hey, there are many people who believe that dinosaur bones were put here by God to test the faithful.
I find it believable that 30 thousand people living 150,000 years ago could disappear without a trace. It's only thru amazing coincidences that we can find any human remains at all from that long ago.

almost 40 thousand people drop onto the planet, with sufficient knowledge to rebuild a good part of civilization right away. Just because they don't doesn't mean within a generation all that knowledge just goes away; they even made records were the different groups were being situated and supplying the info to all the other groups. The very ending 150000 year leap makes it seem that everybody just built themselves a hole to lie in and died. We're talking about a lot of people that had been fearing for their lives with minimal room to live/privacy for quite some time. I imagine there would be a good amount of procreation going on. That last minute or so of the ending was pretty much a big middle finger from the producer to anyone else trying to do anything else with this version of BSG and fairly crappy at that.

Interesting take considering my previous post:

wtf? Glen Larson is going to make his own Battlestar movie? And it won't be related to the new series but based on the original series?
I wonder if he has the movie rights for a movie based on the old series and he is capitalizing on the success of the new series?
This is some seriously f*cked up shit. Glen Larson is not exactly noted for quality entertainment (need I mention "Manimal"?)

 

[middlehead]

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: Raiden256
Did anyone else notice that, at the end when Angel 6 talked about it being part of God's plan, Baltar said "You know IT doesn't like to be called that?" I had to replay this a couple times, but WTFrack?

Did he say "It"? I couldn't remember if Baltar said He, She, or It.

For a moment I thought that maybe Kara was God and she didn't like to be called God. . .

I haven't gone back and watched it again, but I thought Angel-Baltar said "He."

I still go by the theory that the Cylon God is one of the Lords of Kobol. Only 10 or 11 of them were ever named, and one was explicitly not named - there was mention of one lord whose named was banned because he'd rebelled against the others.

 

[acheron]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: loki8481

TVGuide.com: What's the deal with this Battlestar movie that's being made ? it's not your version of Battlestar?
Moore: Well I don't really know anything about it. They didn't talk to me before they made the deal with Glen Larson, so I don't really know much about it.

TVGuide.com: So they never approached you about a movie?
Moore: Nope. They never picked up the phone. Let's put it that way. But that's OK because I had kind of put the word out that for quite a while that I didn't think that our version of Galactica was going to lend itself to a feature film. I knew that we wanted to end the series the way that we did, and it really wraps up the show. There's really not a story to tell after the finale that would be Battlestar Galactica.

wtf? Glen Larson is going to make his own Battlestar movie? And it won't be related to the new series but based on the original series?
I wonder if he has the movie rights for a movie based on the old series and he is capitalizing on the success of the new series?
This is some seriously f*cked up shit. Glen Larson is not exactly noted for quality entertainment (need I mention "Manimal"?)

Glen Larson created the original series, that's why he has the rights. I really hope they don't go through with it, though.

Michael Bolton: That's the worst idea I've ever heard in my life, Tom.
Samir: Yes, this is horrible, this idea.

 

[Qbah]

As much as I loved the show, the part after they jumped away from the cylon colony was a disaster in my eyes. When the ship popped up and almost broke apart after that last jump, I went all "WOW, AMAZING!" And then it flew past the moon with some debris still falling from it - that was really nice too. However the very idea that the Colonials dropped all their technology and went tribal is so silly it's beyond stupid.

So we are to understand they just stopped caring about medical treatments, food growing and all those things? House building, farming and everything associated with their earlier lifestyle? Communication? Entertainment? What about caring for the older people? Or the newborns? Or people hurt in the clash with the colony? How would they survive the first few winters? What about clothing? And all 38-something thousand people were A-OK with it and just followed about not building cities and live a nomandic life? Yeah right... This is the part that's total BS for me. As for character resolutions, I liked it in general. But Adama leaving his son and just flying away? (I actually thought he would follow Galactica into the sun with Roslin dying moments before the Raptor blowing up or something ). Tyrol snapping Tory's neck was brilliant He actually saved them all from making a huge mistake again. Baltar and Caprica Six was a nice touch. And Starbuck just disappearing was a WTF moment (though not that unexpected, I kinda figured it would happen when the camera was moving away from her) - just like her character the whole 4th season. So no surprise there, I guess

In my opinion they shoul've ended the whole thing with Galactica moving into orbit of the planet and the COlonials landing and starting a new civilsation with the tribals. With all that having no connection with our Earth... The whole thing was ruined by the fact that they decided to drop technology all together. No sane person would! And I'm pretty sure 38 thousand people after 4 years of running most definately wouldn't.

Series? 10/10
Finale? 10/10 until they fly past the moon, 5/10 for the rest.

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: Qbah
As much as I loved the show, the part after they jumped away from the cylon colony was a disaster in my eyes. When the ship popped up and almost broke apart after that last jump, I went all "WOW, AMAZING!" And then it flew past the moon with some debris still falling from it - that was really nice too. However the very idea that the Colonials dropped all their technology and went tribal is so silly it's beyond stupid.

So we are to understand they just stopped caring about medical treatments, food growing and all those things? House building, farming and everything associated with their earlier lifestyle? Communication? Entertainment? What about caring for the older people? Or the newborns? Or people hurt in the clash with the colony? How would they survive the first few winters? What about clothing? And all 38-something thousand people were A-OK with it and just followed about not building cities and live a nomandic life? Yeah right... This is the part that's total BS for me. As for character resolutions, I liked it in general. But Adama leaving his son and just flying away? (I actually thought he would follow Galactica into the sun with Roslin dying moments before the Raptor blowing up or something ). Tyrol snapping Tory's neck was brilliant He actually saved them all from making a huge mistake again. Baltar and Caprica Six was a nice touch. And Starbuck just disappearing was a WTF moment (though not that unexpected, I kinda figured it would happen when the camera was moving away from her) - just like her character the whole 4th season. So no surprise there, I guess

In my opinion they shoul've ended the whole thing with Galactica moving into orbit of the planet and the COlonials landing and starting a new civilsation with the tribals. With all that having no connection with our Earth... The whole thing was ruined by the fact that they decided to drop technology all together. No sane person would! And I'm pretty sure 38 thousand people after 4 years of running most definately wouldn't.

Series? 10/10
Finale? 10/10 until they fly past the moon, 5/10 for the rest.

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[Paratus]

I greatly enjoyed the show and finale. What I want to draw attention to is the special effects. I believe it's the same firm that did Firefly. As far as I'm concerned they go head to head with ILM on a tv buget and they damn well deserve an Emmy this year.

Hell the whole show deserves one.

 

[DanTMWTMP]

The entire series has remarkable parallels with Hyperion. In fact, if you read Hyperion, you can explain the other mysteries left unanswered. Then again, the entire Hyperion series ended with many many other questions left unanswered, but they can be insinuated.