"Tom Brady prefer his balls to feel a certain way" - balls underinflated

[SSSnail]

Why wouldn't the league just implement softer balls if it was so much better for offense? They've done everything short of shackle the defenders to make the league higher scoring. As I said before this is just stupid and everyone that jumped all over this should feel like an idiot.

People already convicted the Patriots before any evidence is presented, I presume due to ignorance, mob mentality and bad genes. But, that's just like people everywhere.

 

[purbeast0]

I can't believe that the NFL would make this big a deal over this unless someone had an agenda. Still looking forward to seeing the final report and number (if they even wrote them down smh).

i don't think it was the nfl that made a big deal over this at all. it was the stupid ass media and the stupid ass non football people that made this a big deal. just look at this thread alone. all the non-football people came out of the woodwork which is why it became such a hilarious thread in the first place. then you had cnn and fox news headlining local news broadcasts with it.

i blame it all on the media and stupid people.

 

[Phokus]

What a great day, a superbowl victory and it looks like the patriots are more and more innocent by the minute, new report on deflategate:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...-investigation-of-patriots-deflated-footballs

EVERY SINGLE FUCKING LEAK WAS WRONG

Only ONE ball was 2 PSI below, all the other balls was just a 'few ticks' under minimum. What a fucking crock of shit.

I'm sure ESPN, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, etc. will be apologizing to the patriots organization aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaany time now

 

[emperus]

A good read on Deflategate. A little long though.

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/deflategate/

 

[Capt Caveman]

What about Joe Montana? Rice? Griese? Tarkenton? That's what I thought.

Well, we know now that Montana, Rice, Haley and the 49ers are hypocrites and cheaters. Asterisk on their SB wins. Now, don't you feel like more of a moron than you already are.

Jerry Rice admits to stickum use, calls New England Patriots 'cheaters'

“I know this might be a little illegal, guys, but you put a little spray, a little stickum on them, to make sure that texture is a little sticky,” Rice said, laughing.

It wasn’t a little illegal, it was a lot illegal. As explained in the ESPN feature, gloves were introduced to football after the NFL decided to outlaw the stuff that guys like Fred Biletnikoff and Lester Hayes (pictured) would spread copiously on their hands, and elsewhere. Rice admitted in the feature that he enhanced the surface of gloves approved for use in the NFL with a substance that would make it easier to catch the ball.

And when NE is exonerated for deflate gate. Hopefully, this happens, Indy another cheating organization.Hurley: Failed DeflateGate Accusations Mean It’s Time For Irsay, Pagano To Be Banned From NFL

 

[zinfamous]

Well, we know now that Montana, Rice, Haley and the 49ers are hypocrites and cheaters. Asterisk on their SB wins. Now, don't you feel like more of a moron than you already are.

Jerry Rice admits to stickum use, calls New England Patriots 'cheaters'



And when NE is exonerated for deflate gate. Hopefully, this happens, Indy another cheating organization.Hurley: Failed DeflateGate Accusations Mean It’s Time For Irsay, Pagano To Be Banned From NFL

language in that article...tough to read from such homer-infused bias. :\

deflategate was a sham, absolutely. but FFS--try to write like an adult, Mr reporter person.

 

[BUTCH1]

Well, we know now that Montana, Rice, Haley and the 49ers are hypocrites and cheaters. Asterisk on their SB wins. Now, don't you feel like more of a moron than you already are.

Jerry Rice admits to stickum use, calls New England Patriots 'cheaters'



And when NE is exonerated for deflate gate. Hopefully, this happens, Indy another cheating organization.Hurley: Failed DeflateGate Accusations Mean It’s Time For Irsay, Pagano To Be Banned From NFL

Yea, Jerry was the one of the first to respond when the "story" broke when he tweeted "can anyone spell cheating, just saying". What a colossal steaming pile of dung ALL of the former Niner's have turned out to be, first Jerry, then Montana claiming "Brady had to be involved" and finally Haley's induction into the HOF, instead of thanking his teammates and excellent coach for helping make the most of his career he goes off on Brady with his "tainted' Super-bowl remarks. A team I once watched in awe and held a high regard for are now showing out to be bitter assholes as the Patriots are held in the same company as both winning 4 SB's. The Colt's owner should not be allowed the privilege of being an NFL team owner, getting caught with a boat-load of prescription drugs and convicted of a DUI while carrying over $29K cash. The league drops the ban-hammer in a heat-beat if a player pulls this crap and an owner gets caught with drugs, driving DUI and most likely looking for a hooker should be forced to sell the team. This is not a slight to the players of the Colts who are continuing to get to the postseason and play their ass off every week.

 

[manimal]

as bellichick has said


were on to Miami



beach and drinks that is

 

[Capt Caveman]

Yea, Jerry was the one of the first to respond when the "story" broke when he tweeted "can anyone spell cheating, just saying". What a colossal steaming pile of dung ALL of the former Niner's have turned out to be, first Jerry, then Montana claiming "Brady had to be involved" and finally Haley's induction into the HOF, instead of thanking his teammates and excellent coach for helping make the most of his career he goes off on Brady with his "tainted' Super-bowl remarks. A team I once watched in awe and held a high regard for are now showing out to be bitter assholes as the Patriots are held in the same company as both winning 4 SB's. The Colt's owner should not be allowed the privilege of being an NFL team owner, getting caught with a boat-load of prescription drugs and convicted of a DUI while carrying over $29K cash. The league drops the ban-hammer in a heat-beat if a player pulls this crap and an owner gets caught with drugs, driving DUI and most likely looking for a hooker should be forced to sell the team. This is not a slight to the players of the Colts who are continuing to get to the postseason and play their ass off every week.

Not include is that the 49ers were caught multiple times cheating the salary cap(post Montana) and there are numerous articles about Bill Parcells and others accusing Bill Walsh of cheating, lying about how the SF communication devices were not working which caused the opponents to have to turn off their communications so that the coaches upstairs couldn't communicate to the field at crucial parts of the game.

Hopefully, the NFL will say nothing happened out of the ordinary but that Indy will be investigated into tampering with the football to make their false accusation. Then Goodell and the NFL doesn't apologize and Kraft and the other owners finally axe Goodell. You would have thought with all of the scandals that occurred this year that Goodell handled like shit, he would have tried to handle this deflated football issue better. No measurements, no actual proof but keeps this going on thru and past the SB.

 

[BUTCH1]

Not include is that the 49ers were caught multiple times cheating the salary cap(post Montana) and there are numerous articles about Bill Parcells and others accusing Bill Walsh of cheating, lying about how the SF communication devices were not working which caused the opponents to have to turn off their communications so that the coaches upstairs couldn't communicate to the field at crucial parts of the game.

Hopefully, the NFL will say nothing happened out of the ordinary but that Indy will be investigated into tampering with the football to make their false accusation. Then Goodell and the NFL doesn't apologize and Kraft and the other owners finally axe Goodell. You would have thought with all of the scandals that occurred this year that Goodell handled like shit, he would have tried to handle this deflated football issue better. No measurements, no actual proof but keeps this going on thru and past the SB.

I'm not understanding why in that situation, (equipment failure) the Ref's wouldn't just stop the game at that point and the malfunctioning equipment replaced. If it was a fake then the team claiming broken equipment would be at advantage because they probably would work out some kind of signaling system as a workaround whereas the visiting team would not have time to do that. IMPO it all revolves around the almighty $$, when the Pat's won the AFC title game interest in the SB took a nosedive, (oh, it's THEM again) but now with BB and Brady freshly cast as "villains" again the hate-wagon got rolled out and most of the country was hoping that Darth Vader and the evil empire (that being the Pat's) would be curb-stomped like Denver was last year. TV ratings were the highest EVER for a SB and next year I'm sure the NFL's asking price for a 30 second spot will increase considerably.

 

[Perknose]

Decent statistical case for Brady or Joe Montana or maybe PFM as the best QB ever.

 

[manimal]

Decent statistical case for Brady or Joe Montana as the best QB ever.

hes no rg3

 

[Perknose]

hes no rg3

Lol, football is such a team and scheme game that I find it hard to separate out a QB's performance in isolation.

So, while by different metrics, a case can be made for Montana or Brady or Manning, while not forgetting guys like Kurt F. Warner, football excellence remains a team-based metric for me, and football team excellence over time remains an organization-based metric.

And, by this last metric, I've got to hand it to Bill Belichick and NE.

 

[manimal]

Lol, football is such a team and scheme game that I find it hard to separate out a QB's performance in isolation.

So, while by different metrics, a case can be made for Montana or Brady or Manning, while not forgetting guys like Kurt F. Warner, football excellence remains a team-based metric for me, and football team excellence over time remains an organization-based metric.

And, by this last metric, I've got to hand it to Bill Belichick and NE.

in all seriousness the reason I think brady and Belly are the superbestest evar is because of the salary cap. Montana had the best team and Warner had the best weapons while brady had to deal with parity and a ton of holes in his roster.

While Montana was the man of my youth Brady has to be the best now because he has nowhere the team that montana did. Carmen policy spent so much money in those days he had to resort to um well less legal ways of making it....


I am also sickened by people saying Brady has lost it because all his passes are near the line of scrimage.

Well the guy had zero help on O line most of the year and in the superbowl they knew the Hawks rush would get to them in 3 clicks so they played the possesion game taking the pass rush out and Bennet still managed to beat him up. Guy was getting hit in themouth and he still threw touch passes. If anyone brings up Bradies avg pass distance I would mention brady when he had moss had the best avg in the legue two years in a row. This year he had merde for recievers outside of Edelman.

 

[Phokus]

lol, now Jerry Rice admits that his using stickum on his hands/gloves was illegal in the NFL, OOPS

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/07/jerry-rice-admits-to-cheating-says-everyone-did-it/

He really stuck his foot in his mouth.

 

[BUTCH1]

lol, now Jerry Rice admits that his using stickum on his hands/gloves was illegal in the NFL, OOPS

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/07/jerry-rice-admits-to-cheating-says-everyone-did-it/

He really stuck his foot in his mouth.

Another colossal asshole to add to the A-list of assholes ready to throw Brady under the bus, he was the first to shove his ugly ass into the feeding-frenzy with his "can anyone say cheating" tweet less than an hour after the non-story broke, he, Montana, Haley, Brunell, Aikman and fat as a bus can all go to a hotel and corn-hole each other in an asshole assembly. Jerry's pathetic excuse, "everyone was doing it", no Jerry so far JUST YOU it seems were "doing it".

 

[zinfamous]

lol, now Jerry Rice admits that his using stickum on his hands/gloves was illegal in the NFL, OOPS

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/07/jerry-rice-admits-to-cheating-says-everyone-did-it/

He really stuck his foot in his mouth.

well, better than putting his hand in there, otherwise it would never have come out.

 

[dainthomas]

Another colossal asshole to add to the A-list of assholes ready to throw Brady under the bus, he was the first to shove his ugly ass into the feeding-frenzy with his "can anyone say cheating" tweet less than an hour after the non-story broke, he, Montana, Haley, Brunell, Aikman and fat as a bus can all go to a hotel and corn-hole each other in an asshole assembly. Jerry's pathetic excuse, "everyone was doing it", no Jerry so far JUST YOU it seems were "doing it".

Pats fans are still crying about this? They should just accept that no one likes them and move on.

 

[emperus]

Pats fans are still crying about this? They should just accept that no one likes them and move on.

You mean crying like this:

 

[BUTCH1]

Pats fans are still crying about this? They should just accept that no one likes them and move on.

'Crying" not found, pointing out blatant Hippocrates defiantly found. Yea, it's not much of a secret that the majority of fans or players do not care for the Pat's, I've accepted this years ago, at least they provide an entertaining SB, win or lose.

 

[purbeast0]

lol where is SP33Demon now?

 

[Capt Caveman]

Brady didn't take too much time off before getting back into it.

 

[zinfamous]

'Crying" not found, pointing out blatant Hippocrates defiantly found. Yea, it's not much of a secret that the majority of fans or players do not care for the Pat's, I've accepted this years ago, at least they provide an entertaining SB, win or lose.

dang, invoking the good Doc Hippocrates

And I never knew him to be all that defiant. :hmm:

As for the last part, I totally agree. All sports need a great villain, and the Pats/Brady/Bellichick have fit that bill so damn perfectly in this era. love it.

 

[BUTCH1]

dang, invoking the good Doc Hippocrates

And I never knew him to be all that defiant. :hmm:

As for the last part, I totally agree. All sports need a great villain, and the Pats/Brady/Bellichick have fit that bill so damn perfectly in this era. love it.

Amazing in that even with a spell-checker I borked that one up LOL. ESPN was running a story about pop-warner football enrollment is down 29% as now Emmit Smith is suffering from CTE, half of the 1985 Bears are suing the NFL as painkillers were openly provided for by the team, many of them have shot bodies or scrambled brains. As much as I love to watch Julian Edelman do his magic and marvel at his toughness I fear he may be sacrificing so much later down the road, same with Welker or any long-time RB or even lineman. It is becoming clearer and clearer just how devastating the result is of repeated violent collisions really is..http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24970529/bears-talk-suicide-pills-post-nfl-struggles-in-new-hbo-real-sports

 

[zinfamous]

Amazing in that even with a spell-checker I borked that one up LOL. ESPN was running a story about pop-warner football enrollment is down 29% as now Emmit Smith is suffering from CTE, half of the 1985 Bears are suing the NFL as painkillers were openly provided for by the team, many of them have shot bodies or scrambled brains. As much as I love to watch Julian Edelman do his magic and marvel at his toughness I fear he may be sacrificing so much later down the road, same with Welker or any long-time RB or even lineman. It is becoming clearer and clearer just how devastating the result is of repeated violent collisions really is..http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24970529/bears-talk-suicide-pills-post-nfl-struggles-in-new-hbo-real-sports

Yeah, it really isn't going to survive much longer in the current state. I would welcome an overhaul if it means real tackling and less of a focus on destroying your target...and thus better overall play.

Hits are a still a big part of the game, and should be, but nothing dumber than a safety or linebacker missing an easy open-field tackle because they feel a need to go for the bell-ringing smash rather than a two hand wrap that has a better chance of stopping the play.