"Tom Brady prefer his balls to feel a certain way" - balls underinflated

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should pats lose their spot to colts in the superbowl?

  • yes

  • no

  • RG3 is better than Luck


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zinfamous

No Lifer
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More moronic opinions, "I could never throw it in the rain", hey Mr. fucknuts, it rains in SF about 1/10th the frequency of that in NE, ever think the guy's just better at it that you or Aikman (who played in a fucking dome) because he's practiced it 100X more than you ever did?, naw, couldn't be that. Go sell some crappy pizza you washed-out has been with more sour grapes hanging from your ball-sack than testicles. Brady had ONE receiver the caliper of Rice and that was for 2 years and he STILL is a better QB than you were.

whoa dude...WHOA. just stop right there, dude.

...whoa. No way man. no effing way!

D:
 

zinfamous

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Dude, he's a creationist. You think he cares about facts or evidence?

oh dang, that guy's a creationist?

lulz--I knew there was something off about him.

--uses numbers and paper stats to prove how awesome he is at understanding football (which he never has done)
--ignores numbers and facts and data and science to disagree with reality.

sounds about right (if true)
 

Phokus

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Why don't you read the article:



Which backs up my qualification:



So what if Walsh later denied filming the walkthrough. Tomase had a source that said the Pats did. The fact they were at the walkthrough is ridiculous.



And I still say, "How convenient all those tapes were destroyed by the NFL..."

The Pats have no one to blame for Spygate than themselves. It makes every subsequent event, like their videography staff being present during another team's walkthrough, look incriminating. Hence an unnamed source carries a lot more weight than normal when known cheaters were present and available to cheat; their denial means little. Doesn't mean they are lying, only that no one has a reason to trust them. The absence of a video doesn't mean it wasn't created or that information wasn't passed on. Heck, even if all the sources are bunk it still looks bad.

Kind of like blaming everyone for wanting Deflategate investigated and ignoring the fact the balls were deflated. The NFL still needs to learn why they were out of spec and have new procedures to prevent it from happening.

Walsh was the VIDEO GUY during that time peroid, who is a better source, whoever Tomase's guy is? Or THE VIDEO GUY. Holy shit. The Boston Herald is Boston's version of the New York fucking Post, it's a fucking tabloid that simply doesn't care for facts.
 

Phokus

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Dude, he's a creationist. You think he cares about facts or evidence?

HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH, Fucking seriously? Sp33d, you're a bigger fucking joke than i thought. Who the fuck is still a god damned creationist in the year 2015. What a fucking dumbass. Of course he'd get science wrong in this case.

Maybe if i said Jesus made the balls deflate rather than actual science, he'd believe me :D

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LMAO
 

SP33Demon

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whoa dude...WHOA. just stop right there, dude.

...whoa. No way man. no effing way!

D:
Lmao yup, Pats fans now claiming Brady>Montana. Meltdown imminent! Taking bets on if Brady took down the Montana poster yet...
 
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SP33Demon

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Walsh was the VIDEO GUY during that time peroid, who is a better source, whoever Tomase's guy is? Or THE VIDEO GUY. Holy shit. The Boston Herald is Boston's version of the New York fucking Post, it's a fucking tabloid that simply doesn't care for facts.
phokiss laps it up and believes anything the Boston media says. It's his... wait for it... bible ;) ;)
 

BeeBoop

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This thread here! I have the urge to go out and buy a football along with a PSI meter to see if I can feel the difference in two PSI.
 

emperus

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Montana and Brady played in different eras and I'm not old enough to have watch Montana as much. But Brady has to be up there as the best quarterback to have played. Given the salary cap era and the fact that Brady hasn't had a lot of Amazing Supporting cast around him. His accomplishments can't be overlooked.
 

BUTCH1

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Montana and Brady played in different eras and I'm not old enough to have watch Montana as much. But Brady has to be up there as the best quarterback to have played. Given the salary cap era and the fact that Brady hasn't had a lot of Amazing Supporting cast around him. His accomplishments can't be overlooked.

Well said and Brady, despite salary cap restraints and hit-or-miss receivers STILL is the ALL-TIME most winning %QB in the ENTIRE HISTORY of the NFL. Not to take away anything from Montana who was as clutch as they come, 2 of his SB wins were against Denver and Miami who showed up at a SB without something called a defense. Those were lean years for the AFC as teams like the Niner's, Bears, and Cowboys were simply heads and shoulders better than anything the AFC could bring to the table, they failed to produce a SINGLE winner from '85-97 and most of the games were lopsided affairs with NFC teams scoring greater than 40 points five times.
 

TheSlamma

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Montana and Brady played in different eras and I'm not old enough to have watch Montana as much. But Brady has to be up there as the best quarterback to have played. Given the salary cap era and the fact that Brady hasn't had a lot of Amazing Supporting cast around him. His accomplishments can't be overlooked.
that is a farce made up by Pats fans, that dude has been surrounded by pro bowlers on a constant basis.

Never in the history of the NFL has an offensive line been that good for that long.

Gronk has only been playing 4 years and is in the top 15 TD's for a tight end ALREADY

Moss, Welker, Law, Brushi a bunch of great running backs, a coach that will video record other teams, and owner that will pay the cheating fines and a commissioner that will get the rules changed to protect him (tuck and lunge)

Sorry but Elway in the 80's is an example of a man out there ALONE, the 3 amigos? Dan reeves? give me a break, he had NO ONE. Brady is FULLY LOADED AT ALL TIMES (just not fully inflated)
 
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Capt Caveman

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that is a farce made up by Pats fans, that dude has been surrounded by pro bowlers on a constant basis.

Never in the history of the NFL has an offensive line been that good for that long.

Gronk has only been playing 4 years and is in the top 15 TD's for a tight end ALREADY

Moss, Welker, Law, Brushi a bunch of great running backs, a coach that will video record other teams, and owner that will pay the cheating fines and a commissioner that will get the rules changed to protect him (tuck and lunge)

Sorry but Elway in the 80's is an example of a man out there ALONE, the 3 amigos? Dan reeves? give me a break, he had NO ONE.
Brady is FULLY LOADED AT ALL TIMES (just not fully inflated)

Another, not sure if serious. Orange Crush. HOFs Shannon Sharpe and Gary Zimmerman. Terrell Davis at running back. But they also needed to cheat to win their SBs. Stealing signals and violating the salary cap which the NFL fined them and they lost a draft pick. And they haven't won a SB since....
 

TheSlamma

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Another, not sure if serious. Orange Crush. HOFs Shannon Sharpe and Gary Zimmerman. Terrell Davis at running back. But they also needed to cheat to win their SBs. Stealing signals and violating the salary cap which the NFL fined them and they lost a draft pick. And they haven't won a SB since....
wow you even highlighted me typing "80's" in bold. None of what you listed happened in the 80's

Also I'm from Ohio, a Browns fan, this is not easy for me to give this credit to Elway, hopefully that badger dog brain of yours can figure out why. :p

edit: and they haven't won a SB since.. umm yeah cause someone special retired didn't they. Who also hasn't won a SB since getting busted cheating?
 
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emperus

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that is a farce made up by Pats fans, that dude has been surrounded by pro bowlers on a constant basis.

Never in the history of the NFL has an offensive line been that good for that long.

Gronk has only been playing 4 years and is in the top 15 TD's for a tight end ALREADY

Moss, Welker, Law, Brushi a bunch of great running backs, a coach that will video record other teams, and owner that will pay the cheating fines and a commissioner that will get the rules changed to protect him (tuck and lunge)

Sorry but Elway in the 80's is an example of a man out there ALONE, the 3 amigos? Dan reeves? give me a break, he had NO ONE. Brady is FULLY LOADED AT ALL TIMES (just not fully inflated)

Ok. Name the offensive Pro Bowlers Brady surrounded himself with. Outside of Moss who he had for 2 years, name a receiver that would be a #1 WR on any other team.

Btw the offensive line is good because Brady gets rid of the ball quickly. Remember we lost 2 Superbowls because the Offensive line couldn't block the giants front 4 and some lucky plays.
 

jhansman

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Solution (unless someone has already put this out there): have the league supply and monitor the balls. Letting the teams do it seems just dumb. As for baseball, every time a ball hits the dirt, the ump puts a new one in play. If they even suspect a ball has been doctored, a new one comes in. And that game? The Colts were simply outplayed.
 

BUTCH1

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that is a farce made up by Pats fans, that dude has been surrounded by pro bowlers on a constant basis.

Never in the history of the NFL has an offensive line been that good for that long.

Gronk has only been playing 4 years and is in the top 15 TD's for a tight end ALREADY

Moss, Welker, Law, Brushi a bunch of great running backs, a coach that will video record other teams, and owner that will pay the cheating fines and a commissioner that will get the rules changed to protect him (tuck and lunge)

Sorry but Elway in the 80's is an example of a man out there ALONE, the 3 amigos? Dan reeves? give me a break, he had NO ONE. Brady is FULLY LOADED AT ALL TIMES (just not fully inflated)

The "tuck" rule had ZERO with protecting any QB it was about intent to pass or not, the low-hit rule was put in place because of the Carlson Palmer injury, people wrongly believe it involved Brady because they saw it called while Brady was playing. There was NO rule about taping other teams but Goodell DID clarify where it could not be done from, the sidelines. Plays are signaled in the open in front of 70-80,000 people for both teams, if your D coach isn't changing signs often he should be fired.
 

TheSlamma

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Ok. Name the offensive Pro Bowlers Brady surrounded himself with. Outside of Moss who he had for 2 years, name a receiver that would be a #1 WR on any other team.

Btw the offensive line is good because Brady gets rid of the ball quickly. Remember we lost 2 Superbowls because the Offensive line couldn't block the giants front 4 and some lucky plays.
I love how you get to omit Moss cause you just make up rules as you go along. Typical Cheatriots fan.

Welker went to the Broncos and got 10 TD's in 2013 and that is after suffering concussions and being past his prime. That is more than he got in any year being tossed to by Brady.

I would say Gronk but like a typical Deflatriots fan you omitted TE's.

Faulk, Branch and Brown would be #1 on a team if Manning, Brees or Big Ben throwing to them.

Seriously man if you think Brady is alone out there you are blind as fvck. Poor poor argument and I even played by your crappy rules you made up like a 12 year old.
 

TheSlamma

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The "tuck" rule had ZERO with protecting any QB it was about intent to pass or not, the low-hit rule was put in place because of the Carlson Palmer injury, people wrongly believe it involved Brady because they saw it called while Brady was playing. There was NO rule about taping other teams but Goodell DID clarify where it could not be done from, the sidelines. Plays are signaled in the open in front of 70-80,000 people for both teams, if your D coach isn't changing signs often he should be fired.
http://www.boston.com/sports/footba...ial_helps_patriots_tackle_the_new_brady_rule/

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/160081-how-the-brady-rule-will-kill-football

http://www.naplesnews.com/sports/other-sports/nfl-brady-rule-ruffles-feathers-ditka-and-other-re

Brady rule sorry

also, physical harm isn't automatically implied when it comes to the word "protection" even in football. The NFL helped Brady out when he needed it by not taking away the ball when he FUMBLED and it all of a sudden didn't apply in the 2013 AFC championship game since it wasn't against Brady. It was an insurance policy to help out the Pats and Brady, that is a form of PROTECTION on GODells golden boy and the team that brings in the $$$.
 
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emperus

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I love how you get to omit Moss cause you just make up rules as you go along. Typical Cheatriots fan.

Welker went to the Broncos and got 10 TD's in 2013 and that is after suffering concussions and being past his prime. That is more than he got in any year being tossed to by Brady.

I would say Gronk but like a typical Deflatriots fan you omitted TE's.

Faulk, Branch and Brown would be #1 on a team if Manning, Brees or Big Ben throwing to them.

Seriously man if you think Brady is alone out there you are blind as fvck. Poor poor argument and I even played by your crappy rules you made up like a 12 year old.

He had Moss for 2 seasons and part of a 3rd season. Who did he have all those other seasons? You're welcome to give me a 2nd receiver who would be a #1 receiver in another system. Our #1 (Welker) went to the Broncos and became the #2/3 Receiver.

Now compare him to Manning or other top quarterbacks in the league.
 

emperus

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http://www.boston.com/sports/footba...ial_helps_patriots_tackle_the_new_brady_rule/

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/160081-how-the-brady-rule-will-kill-football

http://www.naplesnews.com/sports/other-sports/nfl-brady-rule-ruffles-feathers-ditka-and-other-re

Brady rule sorry

also, physical harm isn't automatically implied when it comes to the word "protection" even in football. The NFL helped Brady out when he needed it by not taking away the ball when he FUMBLED and it all of a sudden didn't apply in the 2013 AFC championship game since it wasn't against Brady. It was an insurance policy to help out the Pats and Brady, that is a form of PROTECTION on GODells golden boy and the team that brings in the $$$.

I guess all the hate for the Pats doesn't allow you to think clearly. The Tuck Rule was a rule that had nothing to do with the Pats. In fact it was used against the PAts in an earlier game against the JEts that cost them the game. But most irrational haters think that it was developed and used only once later on in that season in the AFC divisional game.

Jets vs. Patriots (2001)
The tuck rule was called in Week 2 of an NFL regular season match-up on September 23, 2001, between the New England Patriots and the New York Jets.[3] In the waning minutes of the second quarter, Patriots' defensive end Anthony Pleasant apparently forced Jets quarterback Vinny Testaverde to fumble the ball. Patriots' defensive end Richard Seymour made a recovery.[4] The call was overturned upon review and ruled an incomplete with the tuck rule cited. The Jets would go on to tie the game with a field goal on that drive and then eventually win in overtime.
In the aftermath of the Tuck Rule Game, Patriots head coach Bill Belichick referred to this game, telling ESPN, "I knew what the ruling should have been because we had dealt with that play a little bit earlier in the year on the other side of it."[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuck_rule#Jets_vs._Patriots_.282001.29