"Tom Brady prefer his balls to feel a certain way" - balls underinflated

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should pats lose their spot to colts in the superbowl?

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purbeast0

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Prove it. You are a Pats fan. Don't lie. You wouldn't have read this many posts in a thread if you weren't.

you're stupidity is actually why i keep coming back to this thread.

well, you and a few other people. it's been a very amusing week at work thanks to you all.

EDIT:

and i see you got owned 2x by other forum members instead of me giving you any "proof" of my fandom. it just continues to pile on, keep it coming please!
 
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Phokus

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It's clear that you don't watch any football. Why do you keep commenting and making yourself look silly. I would tell you to look up the roster for that team, but you probably know any of the players.

But, that is the first year that Brady had 2 very talented receivers. (Moss and Welker).

Yup, the year before, 2006, brady's top receiver was reche fucking caldwell, and he thinks deflated balls are the reason why Brady had a breakout season and not randy moss and welker.
 

SP33Demon

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Jun 22, 2001
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Jesus, read the article:



BTW, reporters were allowed to see the tapes.

...Walsh told Goodell he and other Patriots employees were present at the Rams' walkthrough to set up video equipment for the game but that there was no tape of the walkthrough made.

Summary: Goodell took the word of the cheaters that they didn't cheat and cheaters showed reporters tapes that they picked out for them to see.

Holy purple-headed yogurt slingers you are gullible.
 

Phokus

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Summary: Goodell took the word of the cheaters that they didn't cheat and cheaters showed reporters tapes that they picked out for them to see.

Holy purple-headed yogurt slingers you are gullible.

He was an ex employee who was pissed at the patriots for firing him and you think he's going to step up for the Patriots? Yeah you're retarded.
 

SP33Demon

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you're stupidity is actually why i keep coming back to this thread.

well, you and a few other people. it's been a very amusing week at work thanks to you all.

EDIT:

and i see you got owned 2x by other forum members instead of me giving you any "proof" of my fandom. it just continues to pile on, keep it coming please!

Yes you totally got owned, and only a Skins fan would be suckered into our vortex of nothingness for this long.
 

SP33Demon

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He was an ex employee who was pissed at the patriots for firing him and you think he's going to step up for the Patriots? Yeah you're retarded.

Yes, that is what the Boston media programmed into your little pea brain. Even more gullible than I thought. Wow.
 

Phokus

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Yes, that is what the Boston media programmed into your little pea brain. Even more gullible than I thought. Wow.

Oh i get it, people proved you were an idiot when you were being serious now you're just 'pretending' to be an idiot.
 

SP33Demon

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...lichick-new-england-patriots-legacy/22480197/
NFL Greats weigh in on the Belicheck/Brady legacy
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"It's tough, because I really like their owner, Robert Kraft, and I like Brady, but these things keep popping up," said Griese, the Hall-of-Fame former quarterback for the Miami Dolphins. "Do they have to do this to win?"
...
"We judge people on how they play and how they perform," said Fran Tarkenton, a Hall of Famer who played for the Minnesota Viking and New York Giants. "That's what we do in sports, and we like to ague who was the best… This is much more serious than that. How about integrity? How about doing things the right way?"
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"If someone figured out you can throw it better, catch it better and fumble less if you deflate the ball, guess what they're going to do?" Tarkenton said. "Somebody is going to deflate the balls and think it's so silly and insignificant that nobody will ever catch them."
...
"Do they stretch the rules? You know, yeah, they do," said Reeves, who played or coached in nine Super Bowls.
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"The game shouldn't be decided upon deception," Reeves said. "It should be decided by execution. To me, they don't need to do it. They're extremely good, period. So they're just stretching the envelope, I guess. That I don't like. I don't think (the sneaky substitutions) are right. Is it illegal? No. Is it done as if it is illegal? Yeah."
and
"Human nature tells you, `Gosh, look at what they did, and could they have accomplished it (without these issues)?'" Reeves asked. "There will always be that question mark there."
...
Jerome Bettis, a former NFL running back and current Hall-of-Fame finalist, uses stronger language.

"Do I think Tom cheated? ... Someone did," Bettis said. "Maybe Tom didn't… But it was under his direction of how he liked his footballs."
...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...lichick-new-england-patriots-legacy/22480197/

Legacy? lol, not according to former greats like Griese, Tarkenton, Reeves, and Bettis. Added to greats or current players/coaches Jerry Rice, Don Shula, Randall Cunningham, Brian Dawkins, Jon Harbaugh, Kurt Warner, Marshall Faulk, Ray Lewis.
 

SP33Demon

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Oh i get it, people proved you were an idiot when you were being serious now you're just 'pretending' to be an idiot.

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SP33Demon

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...l-says-patriots-qb-was-behind-ball-deflation/
Joe Montana says Patriot QB was behind ball deflation

“If I ever want a ball a certain way, I don’t do it myself. So, somebody did it for him."

“But I don’t know why everybody is making a big deal out of trying to figure out who did it. It’s pretty simple. If it was done, it was done for a reason.”

“I mean, it’s easy to figure out who did it. Did Tom [Brady] do it? No, but Tom likes the balls that way, obviously, or you wouldn’t have 11 of them that way without him complaining, because as a quarterback, you know how you like the ball. If it doesn’t feel like that, something is wrong."
...
“Troy [Aikman] and I were in the back saying, ‘Dang, we weren’t smart enough to think about air pressure.’ Because he couldn’t throw in the rain, neither could I. We should have thought about that earlier.”


Ouch. You know it's bad when Joe Montana thinks you cheated.
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BUTCH1

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Randall Cunningham says Patriots cheated to break his record


http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/01/patriots_cheating_scandal_makes_randall_cunningham.html

Most points scored in 2007 for the Pats. Wait, wasn't that the year when teams got to bring their own footballs to the game? Uhhh.

Uhhh bullshit, sour grapes, he has not one shred of evidence of any kind the Pat's did anything wrong in '07, if anything they were the most scrutinized team to ever play. Ditto for Faulk and anyone from the Eagles who claim they ran new plays and they didn't work, gee, that's never happened before has it?. As for Lewis he helped cover one of his homies in a murder and was caught using PED's, great one to be criticizing anyone, his life should have a "stain" next to it. Then we get to Jerry Rice, victimized by Walt Coleman's interpretation of the infamous "tuck" rule claiming that the AFC game against Indy should have an "asterisk" next to it without bothering to wait and until the investigation concludes, which is becoming more like a laughingstock as it was revealed that the Ref's never documented the pressures of the inspected balls, for all we know the Pat's submitted balls at 12.5 PSI and the cold, wet night caused them to drop to 11.5 PSI and that Indy's crew submitted balls at 13.5 PSI so if they dropped during the game to 12.5 then they were still in "compliance" but we do not know those facts and never will because none of the Ref crew documented exactly what PSI's were found. Moreover, Rice looks like a bigger idiot (if possible) because the Ref's switched balls at halftime and the Pat's rattled off 28 unanswered points, some of the Colts players were honest and forthright when they came out and said "they could have beat us with beach-balls". Oh, let's not forget Shula who accused the '07 Pat's of "running up the score's" yet his own '72 team beat NE 52-0, scoring twice late in the 4th Qtr on long TD passes, gee, I think old age must have made Shula's memory kinda selective. :D
 

Phokus

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Don't bother with sp33d anymore, he's just trolling because he got his ass handed to him all over the thread when he was being serious, but literally "fact", every point that he tried to make got debunked so he has to switch gears.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
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yeah his newfound "trolling" after he got owned multiple times in here is pretty pathetic considering how much effort it is taking him to find all of these articles and copy/paste them in here and format them a certain way.

ownage of the year 2015 material in this thread, i just hope someone remembers it in 11 months.

(and i hope he keeps posting because it's hilarious!)
 

SP33Demon

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Don't bother with sp33d anymore, he's just trolling because he got his ass handed to him all over the thread when he was being serious, but literally "fact", every point that he tried to make got debunked so he has to switch gears.

When Joe Montana says your QB cheated then I'm vindicated. Time to suck it up, big boy. Super Joe and Jerry Rice both said your QB is a cheater. Brady and Belicheat have no legacy now. Just suck it up, it's not like you play for the losers anyway. Don't get all emo on me now.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
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yeah his newfound "trolling" after he got owned multiple times in here is pretty pathetic considering how much effort it is taking him to find all of these articles and copy/paste them in here and format them a certain way.

ownage of the year 2015 material in this thread, i just hope someone remembers it in 11 months.

(and i hope he keeps posting because it's hilarious!)

^Just another Pats fan who thinks Joe Montana is a retard. Maybe we should start a poll to see who else thinks Joe Montana doesn't know what he's talking about.

Wahhmbulance incoming.
 

Capt Caveman

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The trolls forgot to post this:


Who was spying on the Patriots?


Even the League officials caught the Rams spying but didn't punish them probably b/c they got there's in the SB.

The most interesting aspect of the story? League officials themselves saw the spy, at least according to the Times story filed by Judy Battista.

The key passage from her 2002 report:

"Club and league officials (our emphasis) said a telescope was clearly visible in the window, according to a pool report, and that 15 minutes later, a person appeared at the window, and then vanished."
 

BUTCH1

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...l-says-patriots-qb-was-behind-ball-deflation/
Joe Montana says Patriot QB was behind ball deflation

“If I ever want a ball a certain way, I don’t do it myself. So, somebody did it for him."

“But I don’t know why everybody is making a big deal out of trying to figure out who did it. It’s pretty simple. If it was done, it was done for a reason.”

“I mean, it’s easy to figure out who did it. Did Tom [Brady] do it? No, but Tom likes the balls that way, obviously, or you wouldn’t have 11 of them that way without him complaining, because as a quarterback, you know how you like the ball. If it doesn’t feel like that, something is wrong."
...
“Troy [Aikman] and I were in the back saying, ‘Dang, we weren’t smart enough to think about air pressure.’ Because he couldn’t throw in the rain, neither could I. We should have thought about that earlier.”


Ouch. You know it's bad when Joe Montana thinks you cheated.
joe9646.jpg

More moronic opinions, "I could never throw it in the rain", hey Mr. fucknuts, it rains in SF about 1/10th the frequency of that in NE, ever think the guy's just better at it that you or Aikman (who played in a fucking dome) because he's practiced it 100X more than you ever did?, naw, couldn't be that. Go sell some crappy pizza you washed-out has been with more sour grapes hanging from your ball-sack than testicles. Brady had ONE receiver the caliper of Rice and that was for 2 years and he STILL is a better QB than you were.
 

Ban Bot

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Jesus, read the article:

Why don't you read the article:

While the report cited one unnamed source, Tomase said that while he had multiple sources for the story, he relied on one more than any other, and refused to name that source.[66] Finally, Tomase believed that while he never felt he was being lied to by his source, he should not have written the story in the absence of seeing the tape or getting comments from members of the organization.[66]

Which backs up my qualification:

Did Tomase's source recant, too? Story doesn't say so and says Tomase still stood by his source.

So what if Walsh later denied filming the walkthrough. Tomase had a source that said the Pats did. The fact they were at the walkthrough is ridiculous.

BTW, reporters were allowed to see the tapes.

And I still say, "How convenient all those tapes were destroyed by the NFL..."

The Pats have no one to blame for Spygate than themselves. It makes every subsequent event, like their videography staff being present during another team's walkthrough, look incriminating. Hence an unnamed source carries a lot more weight than normal when known cheaters were present and available to cheat; their denial means little. Doesn't mean they are lying, only that no one has a reason to trust them. The absence of a video doesn't mean it wasn't created or that information wasn't passed on. Heck, even if all the sources are bunk it still looks bad.

Kind of like blaming everyone for wanting Deflategate investigated and ignoring the fact the balls were deflated. The NFL still needs to learn why they were out of spec and have new procedures to prevent it from happening.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
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come on i know SP33Demon can make enough retarded posts in here to get this thing past tridents thread. only need 300 more posts to go!
 

BUTCH1

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Why don't you read the article:



Which backs up my qualification:



So what if Walsh later denied filming the walkthrough. Tomase had a source that said the Pats did. The fact they were at the walkthrough is ridiculous.



And I still say, "How convenient all those tapes were destroyed by the NFL..."

The Pats have no one to blame for Spygate than themselves. It makes every subsequent event, like their videography staff being present during another team's walkthrough, look incriminating. Hence an unnamed source carries a lot more weight than normal when known cheaters were present and available to cheat; their denial means little. Doesn't mean they are lying, only that no one has a reason to trust them. The absence of a video doesn't mean it wasn't created or that information wasn't passed on. Heck, even if all the sources are bunk it still looks bad.

Kind of like blaming everyone for wanting Deflategate investigated and ignoring the fact the balls were deflated. The NFL still needs to learn why they were out of spec and have new procedures to prevent it from happening.

Hey, I'll agree with that the Pat's do have no one other then themselves for Spygate, they were issued a league-wide memo not to tape form the sidelines and ignored it, they paid a hefty price for that arrogance IMO but I'll just leave you with this nugget pointed out by BB during his presser, "your guy's out there with 80,000 people, our guy's out there with 80,000 people", a $300 pair of digital binoculars would allow any coach to get ANY hand signal for the ENTIRE game, this is why defensive coaches change signals very often, this is why baseball coaches change signals very often, 80,000 reasons why they ought to or their idiots.
 

Cerpin Taxt

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Don't bother with sp33d anymore, he's just trolling because he got his ass handed to him all over the thread when he was being serious, but literally "fact", every point that he tried to make got debunked so he has to switch gears.

Dude, he's a creationist. You think he cares about facts or evidence?