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Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: slick230
Islam, the religion of peace.

ha

Not only one of the biggest Muslims bashers on P&N, but a liar to try to make his case that Muslims are terrorist. 1) You said you were there in NYC during 9/11 and you witnessed the attacks, BS. 2) You said Pakistan is a fake country. You keep saying Pakistan only attacks India and no problems are coming out of India 3) This is what you said about Muslims: Heck, a lot of them think that Israel attacked US on 9/11 and not their fellow muslims. (Really?) 4) You make a thread about a catholic priest being kidnapped in Iraq, post a link and nowhere in that link does it say a Muslim kidnapped him but in your title you say "Muslims". 5) You take the actions of Palestinians and label it as the majority of Muslims. "Muslims danced on the street when 9/11 happend". I clearly told you it was a handful of Palestinians and you still wanted to label it as the general Muslim population to spread your hate. 6) You make a stupid thread about "didn't 9/11 teach us anything" and you have no answer to what you want the U.S to do. The only clear answer is to kick out all the Muslims otherwise your thread is a waste of space. 7) You said you had a "cousin" who recently went to Europe and saw Muslims all over the place wearing traditional clothing etc. You said that right after you made a comment about Muslim terrorist. I didn't know clothing made one a terrorist? 8) I was not "allowed" to compare Iran's population to India's population because Iran is an "islamic regime" and India is "democratic" regime. I didn't know that made people less human?

You are the biggest fool here. Your hate disgust me. Your hate for Muslims is all because of the problems in your country and you continue to blame everything on Pakistan. You get away with your "India is so perfect" crap because nobody here gives a rats ass about India and they dont care what is going on in India to know India has many Hindu terrorist groups. Lets start talking about them?

You're the same fool who said "No terrorist are coming into Iraq from Saudi Arabia". Who the hell says that? Are you a closed-minded person? Majority of the attacks are coming from people from Arab nations with the majority from Saudi Arabia yet they do not cross into Iraq from their own country when they are allowed to? How did you ever graduate high school?

You also believe Iraq had WMD, but you have no proof. You say with absolute fact Syria has Iraq's WMD. No doubt about it. Your proof is some report on some website that nobody has ever heard of.

You lack common sense. You lack the ability the function outside society. I wouldn't be surprised if your mom has to drive you to school every morning and kiss you to bed every night.

Aimster, kiss me arse and go the F away.

Lie much?

You didn't say all that?

BTW, I rather not kiss your "arse" and then go F myself. I know the thought of it excites you, but I think I will pass.
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: slick230
Islam, the religion of peace.

ha

Not only one of the biggest Muslims bashers on P&N, but a liar to try to make his case that Muslims are terrorist. 1) You said you were there in NYC during 9/11 and you witnessed the attacks, BS. 2) You said Pakistan is a fake country. You keep saying Pakistan only attacks India and no problems are coming out of India 3) This is what you said about Muslims: Heck, a lot of them think that Israel attacked US on 9/11 and not their fellow muslims. (Really?) 4) You make a thread about a catholic priest being kidnapped in Iraq, post a link and nowhere in that link does it say a Muslim kidnapped him but in your title you say "Muslims". 5) You take the actions of Palestinians and label it as the majority of Muslims. "Muslims danced on the street when 9/11 happend". I clearly told you it was a handful of Palestinians and you still wanted to label it as the general Muslim population to spread your hate. 6) You make a stupid thread about "didn't 9/11 teach us anything" and you have no answer to what you want the U.S to do. The only clear answer is to kick out all the Muslims otherwise your thread is a waste of space. 7) You said you had a "cousin" who recently went to Europe and saw Muslims all over the place wearing traditional clothing etc. You said that right after you made a comment about Muslim terrorist. I didn't know clothing made one a terrorist? 8) I was not "allowed" to compare Iran's population to India's population because Iran is an "islamic regime" and India is "democratic" regime. I didn't know that made people less human?

You are the biggest fool here. Your hate disgust me. Your hate for Muslims is all because of the problems in your country and you continue to blame everything on Pakistan. You get away with your "India is so perfect" crap because nobody here gives a rats ass about India and they dont care what is going on in India to know India has many Hindu terrorist groups. Lets start talking about them?

You're the same fool who said "No terrorist are coming into Iraq from Saudi Arabia". Who the hell says that? Are you a closed-minded person? Majority of the attacks are coming from people from Arab nations with the majority from Saudi Arabia yet they do not cross into Iraq from their own country when they are allowed to? How did you ever graduate high school?

You also believe Iraq had WMD, but you have no proof. You say with absolute fact Syria has Iraq's WMD. No doubt about it. Your proof is some report on some website that nobody has ever heard of.

You lack common sense. You lack the ability the function outside society. I wouldn't be surprised if your mom has to drive you to school every morning and kiss you to bed every night.

Aimster, kiss me arse and go the F away.

Lie much?

You didn't say all that?

Wow that must have taken a lot of energy to type all that. Your determined.

I used to live in NYC and was awake when the attacks took place. No, I did not actually see the planes crashing into the buildings. There was huge thick clouds of smoke accross the city. I was in Queens at the time. Pakistan was carved out of India, some people say thats its a fake country, I think they have a point, not that they are totally correct. Thats right, Pakistan supports terrorist attacks against India.

Well that Catholic priest was kidnapped by radical muslims, but the good news is that they released him. You are such a big liar, when have I ever said majority of the muslims danced on the streets during 9/11?? It took place on a Palestinian street, end of story. I'll respond later to this. I'm getting tired looking at all those words cramped together.

proper paragraph much?

 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: slick230
Islam, the religion of peace.

ha

Not only one of the biggest Muslims bashers on P&N, but a liar to try to make his case that Muslims are terrorist. 1) You said you were there in NYC during 9/11 and you witnessed the attacks, BS. 2) You said Pakistan is a fake country. You keep saying Pakistan only attacks India and no problems are coming out of India 3) This is what you said about Muslims: Heck, a lot of them think that Israel attacked US on 9/11 and not their fellow muslims. (Really?) 4) You make a thread about a catholic priest being kidnapped in Iraq, post a link and nowhere in that link does it say a Muslim kidnapped him but in your title you say "Muslims". 5) You take the actions of Palestinians and label it as the majority of Muslims. "Muslims danced on the street when 9/11 happend". I clearly told you it was a handful of Palestinians and you still wanted to label it as the general Muslim population to spread your hate. 6) You make a stupid thread about "didn't 9/11 teach us anything" and you have no answer to what you want the U.S to do. The only clear answer is to kick out all the Muslims otherwise your thread is a waste of space. 7) You said you had a "cousin" who recently went to Europe and saw Muslims all over the place wearing traditional clothing etc. You said that right after you made a comment about Muslim terrorist. I didn't know clothing made one a terrorist? 8) I was not "allowed" to compare Iran's population to India's population because Iran is an "islamic regime" and India is "democratic" regime. I didn't know that made people less human?

You are the biggest fool here. Your hate disgust me. Your hate for Muslims is all because of the problems in your country and you continue to blame everything on Pakistan. You get away with your "India is so perfect" crap because nobody here gives a rats ass about India and they dont care what is going on in India to know India has many Hindu terrorist groups. Lets start talking about them?

You're the same fool who said "No terrorist are coming into Iraq from Saudi Arabia". Who the hell says that? Are you a closed-minded person? Majority of the attacks are coming from people from Arab nations with the majority from Saudi Arabia yet they do not cross into Iraq from their own country when they are allowed to? How did you ever graduate high school?

You also believe Iraq had WMD, but you have no proof. You say with absolute fact Syria has Iraq's WMD. No doubt about it. Your proof is some report on some website that nobody has ever heard of.

You lack common sense. You lack the ability the function outside society. I wouldn't be surprised if your mom has to drive you to school every morning and kiss you to bed every night.


man oh man, that's gonna be 2k5 ownage highlight

Aimster 1
Ignorant Bigot 0

:laugh:

Get a grip

oh and look at past threads where I've debated him before you make youself look stupid
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: slick230
Islam, the religion of peace.

ha

Not only one of the biggest Muslims bashers on P&N, but a liar to try to make his case that Muslims are terrorist. 1) You said you were there in NYC during 9/11 and you witnessed the attacks, BS. 2) You said Pakistan is a fake country. You keep saying Pakistan only attacks India and no problems are coming out of India 3) This is what you said about Muslims: Heck, a lot of them think that Israel attacked US on 9/11 and not their fellow muslims. (Really?) 4) You make a thread about a catholic priest being kidnapped in Iraq, post a link and nowhere in that link does it say a Muslim kidnapped him but in your title you say "Muslims". 5) You take the actions of Palestinians and label it as the majority of Muslims. "Muslims danced on the street when 9/11 happend". I clearly told you it was a handful of Palestinians and you still wanted to label it as the general Muslim population to spread your hate. 6) You make a stupid thread about "didn't 9/11 teach us anything" and you have no answer to what you want the U.S to do. The only clear answer is to kick out all the Muslims otherwise your thread is a waste of space. 7) You said you had a "cousin" who recently went to Europe and saw Muslims all over the place wearing traditional clothing etc. You said that right after you made a comment about Muslim terrorist. I didn't know clothing made one a terrorist? 8) I was not "allowed" to compare Iran's population to India's population because Iran is an "islamic regime" and India is "democratic" regime. I didn't know that made people less human?

You are the biggest fool here. Your hate disgust me. Your hate for Muslims is all because of the problems in your country and you continue to blame everything on Pakistan. You get away with your "India is so perfect" crap because nobody here gives a rats ass about India and they dont care what is going on in India to know India has many Hindu terrorist groups. Lets start talking about them?

You're the same fool who said "No terrorist are coming into Iraq from Saudi Arabia". Who the hell says that? Are you a closed-minded person? Majority of the attacks are coming from people from Arab nations with the majority from Saudi Arabia yet they do not cross into Iraq from their own country when they are allowed to? How did you ever graduate high school?

You also believe Iraq had WMD, but you have no proof. You say with absolute fact Syria has Iraq's WMD. No doubt about it. Your proof is some report on some website that nobody has ever heard of.

You lack common sense. You lack the ability the function outside society. I wouldn't be surprised if your mom has to drive you to school every morning and kiss you to bed every night.


man oh man, that's gonna be 2k5 ownage highlight

Aimster 1
Ignorant Bigot 0

:laugh:

Get a grip

oh and look at past threads where I've debated him before you make youself look stupid

I don't see any past threads where you were debating anything with me. As I recall I was having a good time arguing with someone who is a racist. You cannot debate anything with a racist. They have their minds set on hate.
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: slick230
Islam, the religion of peace.

ha

Not only one of the biggest Muslims bashers on P&N, but a liar to try to make his case that Muslims are terrorist. 1) You said you were there in NYC during 9/11 and you witnessed the attacks, BS. 2) You said Pakistan is a fake country. You keep saying Pakistan only attacks India and no problems are coming out of India 3) This is what you said about Muslims: Heck, a lot of them think that Israel attacked US on 9/11 and not their fellow muslims. (Really?) 4) You make a thread about a catholic priest being kidnapped in Iraq, post a link and nowhere in that link does it say a Muslim kidnapped him but in your title you say "Muslims". 5) You take the actions of Palestinians and label it as the majority of Muslims. "Muslims danced on the street when 9/11 happend". I clearly told you it was a handful of Palestinians and you still wanted to label it as the general Muslim population to spread your hate. 6) You make a stupid thread about "didn't 9/11 teach us anything" and you have no answer to what you want the U.S to do. The only clear answer is to kick out all the Muslims otherwise your thread is a waste of space. 7) You said you had a "cousin" who recently went to Europe and saw Muslims all over the place wearing traditional clothing etc. You said that right after you made a comment about Muslim terrorist. I didn't know clothing made one a terrorist? 8) I was not "allowed" to compare Iran's population to India's population because Iran is an "islamic regime" and India is "democratic" regime. I didn't know that made people less human?

You are the biggest fool here. Your hate disgust me. Your hate for Muslims is all because of the problems in your country and you continue to blame everything on Pakistan. You get away with your "India is so perfect" crap because nobody here gives a rats ass about India and they dont care what is going on in India to know India has many Hindu terrorist groups. Lets start talking about them?

You're the same fool who said "No terrorist are coming into Iraq from Saudi Arabia". Who the hell says that? Are you a closed-minded person? Majority of the attacks are coming from people from Arab nations with the majority from Saudi Arabia yet they do not cross into Iraq from their own country when they are allowed to? How did you ever graduate high school?

You also believe Iraq had WMD, but you have no proof. You say with absolute fact Syria has Iraq's WMD. No doubt about it. Your proof is some report on some website that nobody has ever heard of.

You lack common sense. You lack the ability the function outside society. I wouldn't be surprised if your mom has to drive you to school every morning and kiss you to bed every night.


man oh man, that's gonna be 2k5 ownage highlight

Aimster 1
Ignorant Bigot 0

:laugh:

Get a grip

oh and look at past threads where I've debated him before you make youself look stupid

I don't see any past threads where you were debating anything with me. As I recall I was having a good time arguing with someone who is a racist. You cannot debate anything with a racist. They have their minds set on hate.

how am I a racist now? for saying that radical muslim terrorists are a threat to humanity???!!!! if that makes me a racist then i am glad to be a racist. kthxbye
 

Ozoned

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Mar 22, 2004
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EHRAN (MNA) -- The following is the message of Grand Leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei to the Hajj pilgrims, as fully appeared in www.khamenei.ir, run by the Islamic Ideology Dissemination Organization (IIDO).

The message was issued on Zihajjah 7, 1425 (Junuary 18, 2005). The Leader described the present juncture as fateful and sensitive for the Islamic Ummah. He expounded on the dangerous machinations and plots that are being hatched by the United States and the Zionists for the Middle East, North Africa and the whole Islamic world and referred to the likely U.S. scenarios aimed at changing the course of the upcoming elections in Iraq. Ayatollah Khamenei also hinted at the measures that may be taken by the Iraqi people and intellectuals to thwart the U.S. plots. In the Name of Allah, the All-beneficent, the All-merciful O our people! Respond to Allah?s summoner and have faith in Him. He will forgive you some of your sins and save you from a painful punishment.? (The Qur?an, 46:31)

Hastening in response to the Divine call with the cries of "Labbayk," once again the devout have arrived by the House of the Beloved. The Hajj season has returned and, for the seekers of grace and spirituality, the road is open towards the summits of love and communion.

Right in front of you is the House of God, the cynosure of the hearts, and the plains of Arafaat and Mash?ar are all set for the surging mainspring of remembrance of God and gnosis of the Divine. Mina and the Safa are poised to deliver their lessons of endeavor and effort for attainment of nearness to God and casting out of the Devil at Jamaraat.

The time is opportune for self-edification from the boon of the refreshing waterfalls of the Unity of God and the solidarity of the Ummah. Let the responding call of "Labbayk," which you make while assuming ihram and entering the state of pilgrim sanctity, become firmly implanted in your heart. Let your Hajj journey, made in response to the Divine invitation to visit the holy precincts of the Beloved, be enriched to its utmost degree with thought and contemplation over the meaning and purpose of Hajj.

When performed with intelligence and understanding, the duty of Hajj is a source of grace for the individual pilgrim as well as for the great Islamic Ummah. It sets the pilgrim on the path of piety and spirituality and brings the Ummah closer to the goals of solidarity, honor and power.

The first step for the pilgrim is self-development. The rites of ihram, tawaf and salat, the sojourns at Arafaat, Mash?ar and Mina, the rituals of the sacrifice, the symbolic stoning and head-shaving? all are expressions of the human being?s humbleness before God and cues for remembering Him, entreating Him, and seeking nearness to Him.

These rites should not be gone through in a casual manner. While performing them the pilgrim faring through the land of Hajj should constantly consider himself to be in the presence of God, the Exalted. In the midst of the pressing crowd, he should find himself alone in the company of the Beloved, while he communes with Him in prayer and supplication, opening his heart to Him and casting out from it the Devil and desire.

The pilgrim should cleanse his heart of the defilements of greed, envy, cowardice and lust, and thank God for His gifts of guidance and blessings. He must learn to train his heart for the struggle in His way, and dispose it to feel kindness for the faithful and dislike for the enemies and opponents of the truth. He should make a firm resolve to reform his own person as well as the world about him, and make a pledge with his God to work for the good of the world and the Hereafter.

The Hajj is nevertheless a collective maneuver. The Divine invitation to Hajj is meant to bring the faithful together, so that they may see themselves by the side of one another and experience this paradigm of oneness of the Muslim polity.

The Hajj is meant as a collective movement directed towards nearness to God as well as a collective repudiation of the devils of all kinds, human and demonic. It is a drill for the advancement of the solidarity of the Islamic Ummah and its relatedness. Never before to the extent of today has the Islamic Ummah stood in greater need of mutual brotherhood and outright repudiation of the polytheists and the arrogant imperialists.

At the present, the Islamic world is faced with an all-out siege, both on the economic and the technological fronts, as well as with a propaganda offensive and, most recently, with military occupation. The occupation of Palestine and the holy city of Quds have culminated in the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan.

The Zionist octopus along with the U.S. imperialism, vicious and despicable, now harbor plans for the entire region of the Middle East, as well as North Africa and the whole Islamic world. They have made the general awakening, which has breathed a new life into the Islamic Ummah, the target of their vengeance and spite.

The U.S. and Western imperialists have finally concluded that Muslim countries and nations, especially those of the Middle East, form the core of this awakening and resistance to their plans for global domination. They foresee that if they fail to control or suppress this Islamic awakening in the next few years with political and economic measures, through propaganda, and as the last resort through military aggression, all their plans for an absolute global hegemony and control of the most vital oil and gas resources, which make the sole powerhouse of their industrial machinery and cause of their material edge over the rest of humanity will come to nothing. If that happens, the big Western and Zionist capitalists, who are the real backstage actors of all imperialist governments will fall from the height of their power and their imposed domination over the nations.

Imperialist arrogance has deployed all its capabilities to this end. It has launched this fateful war, using political pressure on one front, threats of economic sanctions on another, employing propaganda tactics at one place and deploying bombs, missiles, tanks and troops in some other places, as in Iraq and Afghanistan, exactly as it did earlier in Palestine and Quds.

The most important tool of these predatory savages is the deceptive mask of hypocrisy they wear. They equip and dispatch their assassination squads to murder innocent persons and talk of waging war on terrorism. They openly support the bloodthirsty terrorist regime that has usurped Palestine, and label the defenders of Palestine who strive with their backs to the wall as terrorists.

They manufacture, supply and use nuclear, chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction. They have perpetrated such horrors as those at Hiroshima and Halabja and on the Iranian warfront during the imposed war, while they profess to be against the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.

They are themselves behind the dirty drug-trade mafia, but claim to be fighting the narcotics trade.

They make a display of support for science and globalization of science, and yet obstruct the development of science and technology in the Islamic world, considering the emergence of nuclear technology for peaceful purposes in Islamic countries as a mortal sin.

They talk of freedom and the rights of minorities while depriving Muslim girls of the right to education for the sin of wearing the Islamic scarf.

They speak glibly about the freedom of expression and belief, while counting every expression of opinion about Zionism as a crime. They ban the publication of many outstanding Islamic works and forbid even the publication of the documents retrieved from the U.S. spy-den in Tehran in the United States.

They rant about human rights, while they set up scores of torture centers, such as the ones at Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib, or maintain a conniving silence over such extraordinary enormities.

They talk about respect for all religions, while extending their support to such renegades as Salman Rushdie, who has been sentenced to capital punishment, and the BBC broadcasts sacrilegious statements against Islamic sanctities.

However, as a consequence of the insolent and foolishly reckless conduct of the U.S. and British rulers, this mask of deception and hypocrisy has been fractured. With their own hands they have stuffed the hearts of Muslim nations and youth with hatred for the arrogant imperialists. Should free elections be held today in any Muslim country, the people will definitely vote against the wishes of the U.S. and Britain.

Now we have the elections in Iraq in front of us. The meditated goal of these elections for the Iraqi people and their genuine leaders is the very opposite of the objective sought by the occupiers.

The Iraqi nation and leaders want to hold elections for establishing a popular government derived from the will of the people and for the sake of a free, independent and undivided Iraq. From their viewpoint, the elections are the means to ending military occupation and the political control of the U.S. and Britain. To them, the elections should put an end to the vicious presence of the Zionists, who have alighted on the banks of the Euphrates in the shadow of American arms and seem to have found some kind of a partial fulfillment of their garbled dream of a land extending "from the Nile to the Euphrates." To them, the elections should provide for a transition from sectarian and ethnic conflict?itself incited by the malice of the common enemies?to brotherhood and national unity.

But the elections have a different objective within the fantasies of the occupiers. In the guise of popular elections, they want to impose on the people their own mercenaries, most of whom, on account of past connections with the Baath Party, are abject and docile puppets in the hands of the occupiers. With the assistance of these mercenaries, the occupiers seek to relieve themselves of the expenditures of military presence and to finance them at the cost of the Iraqi people and from their oil revenues.

In this postmodern colonialism, the foreign puppets are not appointed directly by the colonial power. Rather, the helm of the government is taken over by the puppets through the process of elections wherein the will of the people is superseded and set aside through fraud or with well-known stratagems. The façade will be that of a democracy, while in reality it will be the absolute dominance of aliens over the fate of a hapless people.

Now there are two great dangers which loom over the Iraqi elections. The first is that of outright fraud and manipulation of the popular vote?something which is a specialty of the Americans. If the Iraqi elite and the country?s educated and politically active youth, working day-and-night, are able to prevent such a fraud and succeed in bringing a popular government into power, there appears the prospect of a second danger: the danger of a military coup and imposition of another dictatorship over the destiny of the Iraqi nation.

This latter danger can also be forestalled with vigilance, timely alertness and courage of the proud and faithful people of Iraq and their genuine and venerable leaders. At this critical historic juncture whose outcome will affect their destiny for decades to come, they should make the utmost use of their faith, courage and solidarity, to hold sound countrywide elections fired with a spirit of enthusiasm and secure the election results with all the power they can command.

The Shiah-Sunni differences, or those between Arabs, Kurds and Turkemans, or those arising from any other kind of divisive grouping, are fostered only by the enemies. So also insecurity, which always makes an excuse for the emergence of dictatorship, is planned and promoted by the enemy?s intelligence services. Those who target Iraqi citizens and academic and political figures with their criminal assaults are not to be counted among warriors fighting oppressive occupiers for the sake of Islamic honor and independence. Brothers and sisters who have assembled for Hajj! Muslim nations and governments!

Today, more than ever before, the Islamic world stands in need of solidarity, unity of purpose and the discipleship of the Quran.

On the one hand, the potential of the Islamic world for development and restitution of its honor and power are more evident than ever before. Throughout the Islamic world today the elite and the youth aspire for the restitution of the grandeur and glory of the Islamic Ummah. The hypocritical slogans of the imperialists have lost their charm and their foul intentions have gradually become exposed for the Islamic Ummah.

On the other hand, the world-eaters, who entertain hopes of global dominance are alarmed by the awakening of the Islamic Ummah and its unity. They regard them as the obstacle in the way of their destructive plots that they are striving to overcome. Today is the time to foster brotherhood practically in all the spheres and as a deterrent against all the threats. Today is the time to work for bringing about conditions conducive to the establishment of the government of Imam Mahdi, may Allah soon bring about his noble appearance. Today is the time to respond to the Divine summons in all the walks of life. Today is the time to accustom our hearts to the chant of such Qur?anic verses as "Indeed the faithful are brethren," and "Do not say to someone who offers you peace, ?You are not a believer,?" and the verse "hard against the faithless and merciful amongst themselves."

Let us realize our God-assigned duties whether it is with regard to the bombardment of Najaf, Falluja and Mosul, or the Tsunami in the Indian Ocean which has left tens of thousands of bereaved families, whether it is with respect to the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan or the chronicles of Palestine written everyday in blood.

We call on all Muslims to unite. This unity is neither directed against the Christians nor against followers of any other religion or creed. It is in fact a call for resistance to aggressors, occupiers and war-mongers. It is a call for carrying out the norms of ethics and spirituality, for the revival of rationality and Islamic justice, for scientific and economic progress and for the restitution of Islamic honor.

We remind the people of the world that Christians and Jews enjoyed complete peace and security in the city of Quds under Muslim rule during the era of the caliphate. But now that Quds and other territories are under the yoke of the Zionists and the Zionist crusaders, shedding the blood of Muslims is not considered an offence.

I call upon the dear Hajj pilgrims to remember God with humility and penitence, to read the Qur?an with thought and reflection, to attend regularly the congregational prayers, and to treat with kindness pilgrims from other countries, and I advise them to refrain from whiling away their time.

I pray to God to accept your worship and to grant you success and welfare. I invite everyone to pray for the personage of the Baqiyyatullah, may our souls be ransomed for him, and for the establishment of the just world government by him?he whom God has reserved for this task.


Was-Salamu ?alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh





In Iran, this dude is an Ayatollah.

For a while, though, I thought I was just reading another limpwristed anti-war rant. Heh heh..
 

rickn

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
EHRAN (MNA) -- The following is the message of Grand Leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei to the Hajj pilgrims, as fully appeared in www.khamenei.ir, run by the Islamic Ideology Dissemination Organization (IIDO).

The message was issued on Zihajjah 7, 1425 (Junuary 18, 2005). The Leader described the present juncture as fateful and sensitive for the Islamic Ummah. He expounded on the dangerous machinations and plots that are being hatched by the United States and the Zionists for the Middle East, North Africa and the whole Islamic world and referred to the likely U.S. scenarios aimed at changing the course of the upcoming elections in Iraq. Ayatollah Khamenei also hinted at the measures that may be taken by the Iraqi people and intellectuals to thwart the U.S. plots. In the Name of Allah, the All-beneficent, the All-merciful O our people! Respond to Allah?s summoner and have faith in Him. He will forgive you some of your sins and save you from a painful punishment.? (The Qur?an, 46:31)

Hastening in response to the Divine call with the cries of "Labbayk," once again the devout have arrived by the House of the Beloved. The Hajj season has returned and, for the seekers of grace and spirituality, the road is open towards the summits of love and communion.

Right in front of you is the House of God, the cynosure of the hearts, and the plains of Arafaat and Mash?ar are all set for the surging mainspring of remembrance of God and gnosis of the Divine. Mina and the Safa are poised to deliver their lessons of endeavor and effort for attainment of nearness to God and casting out of the Devil at Jamaraat.

The time is opportune for self-edification from the boon of the refreshing waterfalls of the Unity of God and the solidarity of the Ummah. Let the responding call of "Labbayk," which you make while assuming ihram and entering the state of pilgrim sanctity, become firmly implanted in your heart. Let your Hajj journey, made in response to the Divine invitation to visit the holy precincts of the Beloved, be enriched to its utmost degree with thought and contemplation over the meaning and purpose of Hajj.

When performed with intelligence and understanding, the duty of Hajj is a source of grace for the individual pilgrim as well as for the great Islamic Ummah. It sets the pilgrim on the path of piety and spirituality and brings the Ummah closer to the goals of solidarity, honor and power.

The first step for the pilgrim is self-development. The rites of ihram, tawaf and salat, the sojourns at Arafaat, Mash?ar and Mina, the rituals of the sacrifice, the symbolic stoning and head-shaving? all are expressions of the human being?s humbleness before God and cues for remembering Him, entreating Him, and seeking nearness to Him.

These rites should not be gone through in a casual manner. While performing them the pilgrim faring through the land of Hajj should constantly consider himself to be in the presence of God, the Exalted. In the midst of the pressing crowd, he should find himself alone in the company of the Beloved, while he communes with Him in prayer and supplication, opening his heart to Him and casting out from it the Devil and desire.

The pilgrim should cleanse his heart of the defilements of greed, envy, cowardice and lust, and thank God for His gifts of guidance and blessings. He must learn to train his heart for the struggle in His way, and dispose it to feel kindness for the faithful and dislike for the enemies and opponents of the truth. He should make a firm resolve to reform his own person as well as the world about him, and make a pledge with his God to work for the good of the world and the Hereafter.

The Hajj is nevertheless a collective maneuver. The Divine invitation to Hajj is meant to bring the faithful together, so that they may see themselves by the side of one another and experience this paradigm of oneness of the Muslim polity.

The Hajj is meant as a collective movement directed towards nearness to God as well as a collective repudiation of the devils of all kinds, human and demonic. It is a drill for the advancement of the solidarity of the Islamic Ummah and its relatedness. Never before to the extent of today has the Islamic Ummah stood in greater need of mutual brotherhood and outright repudiation of the polytheists and the arrogant imperialists.

At the present, the Islamic world is faced with an all-out siege, both on the economic and the technological fronts, as well as with a propaganda offensive and, most recently, with military occupation. The occupation of Palestine and the holy city of Quds have culminated in the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan.

The Zionist octopus along with the U.S. imperialism, vicious and despicable, now harbor plans for the entire region of the Middle East, as well as North Africa and the whole Islamic world. They have made the general awakening, which has breathed a new life into the Islamic Ummah, the target of their vengeance and spite.

The U.S. and Western imperialists have finally concluded that Muslim countries and nations, especially those of the Middle East, form the core of this awakening and resistance to their plans for global domination. They foresee that if they fail to control or suppress this Islamic awakening in the next few years with political and economic measures, through propaganda, and as the last resort through military aggression, all their plans for an absolute global hegemony and control of the most vital oil and gas resources, which make the sole powerhouse of their industrial machinery and cause of their material edge over the rest of humanity will come to nothing. If that happens, the big Western and Zionist capitalists, who are the real backstage actors of all imperialist governments will fall from the height of their power and their imposed domination over the nations.

Imperialist arrogance has deployed all its capabilities to this end. It has launched this fateful war, using political pressure on one front, threats of economic sanctions on another, employing propaganda tactics at one place and deploying bombs, missiles, tanks and troops in some other places, as in Iraq and Afghanistan, exactly as it did earlier in Palestine and Quds.

The most important tool of these predatory savages is the deceptive mask of hypocrisy they wear. They equip and dispatch their assassination squads to murder innocent persons and talk of waging war on terrorism. They openly support the bloodthirsty terrorist regime that has usurped Palestine, and label the defenders of Palestine who strive with their backs to the wall as terrorists.

They manufacture, supply and use nuclear, chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction. They have perpetrated such horrors as those at Hiroshima and Halabja and on the Iranian warfront during the imposed war, while they profess to be against the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.

They are themselves behind the dirty drug-trade mafia, but claim to be fighting the narcotics trade.

They make a display of support for science and globalization of science, and yet obstruct the development of science and technology in the Islamic world, considering the emergence of nuclear technology for peaceful purposes in Islamic countries as a mortal sin.

They talk of freedom and the rights of minorities while depriving Muslim girls of the right to education for the sin of wearing the Islamic scarf.

They speak glibly about the freedom of expression and belief, while counting every expression of opinion about Zionism as a crime. They ban the publication of many outstanding Islamic works and forbid even the publication of the documents retrieved from the U.S. spy-den in Tehran in the United States.

They rant about human rights, while they set up scores of torture centers, such as the ones at Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib, or maintain a conniving silence over such extraordinary enormities.

They talk about respect for all religions, while extending their support to such renegades as Salman Rushdie, who has been sentenced to capital punishment, and the BBC broadcasts sacrilegious statements against Islamic sanctities.

However, as a consequence of the insolent and foolishly reckless conduct of the U.S. and British rulers, this mask of deception and hypocrisy has been fractured. With their own hands they have stuffed the hearts of Muslim nations and youth with hatred for the arrogant imperialists. Should free elections be held today in any Muslim country, the people will definitely vote against the wishes of the U.S. and Britain.

Now we have the elections in Iraq in front of us. The meditated goal of these elections for the Iraqi people and their genuine leaders is the very opposite of the objective sought by the occupiers.

The Iraqi nation and leaders want to hold elections for establishing a popular government derived from the will of the people and for the sake of a free, independent and undivided Iraq. From their viewpoint, the elections are the means to ending military occupation and the political control of the U.S. and Britain. To them, the elections should put an end to the vicious presence of the Zionists, who have alighted on the banks of the Euphrates in the shadow of American arms and seem to have found some kind of a partial fulfillment of their garbled dream of a land extending "from the Nile to the Euphrates." To them, the elections should provide for a transition from sectarian and ethnic conflict?itself incited by the malice of the common enemies?to brotherhood and national unity.

But the elections have a different objective within the fantasies of the occupiers. In the guise of popular elections, they want to impose on the people their own mercenaries, most of whom, on account of past connections with the Baath Party, are abject and docile puppets in the hands of the occupiers. With the assistance of these mercenaries, the occupiers seek to relieve themselves of the expenditures of military presence and to finance them at the cost of the Iraqi people and from their oil revenues.

In this postmodern colonialism, the foreign puppets are not appointed directly by the colonial power. Rather, the helm of the government is taken over by the puppets through the process of elections wherein the will of the people is superseded and set aside through fraud or with well-known stratagems. The façade will be that of a democracy, while in reality it will be the absolute dominance of aliens over the fate of a hapless people.

Now there are two great dangers which loom over the Iraqi elections. The first is that of outright fraud and manipulation of the popular vote?something which is a specialty of the Americans. If the Iraqi elite and the country?s educated and politically active youth, working day-and-night, are able to prevent such a fraud and succeed in bringing a popular government into power, there appears the prospect of a second danger: the danger of a military coup and imposition of another dictatorship over the destiny of the Iraqi nation.

This latter danger can also be forestalled with vigilance, timely alertness and courage of the proud and faithful people of Iraq and their genuine and venerable leaders. At this critical historic juncture whose outcome will affect their destiny for decades to come, they should make the utmost use of their faith, courage and solidarity, to hold sound countrywide elections fired with a spirit of enthusiasm and secure the election results with all the power they can command.

The Shiah-Sunni differences, or those between Arabs, Kurds and Turkemans, or those arising from any other kind of divisive grouping, are fostered only by the enemies. So also insecurity, which always makes an excuse for the emergence of dictatorship, is planned and promoted by the enemy?s intelligence services. Those who target Iraqi citizens and academic and political figures with their criminal assaults are not to be counted among warriors fighting oppressive occupiers for the sake of Islamic honor and independence. Brothers and sisters who have assembled for Hajj! Muslim nations and governments!

Today, more than ever before, the Islamic world stands in need of solidarity, unity of purpose and the discipleship of the Quran.

On the one hand, the potential of the Islamic world for development and restitution of its honor and power are more evident than ever before. Throughout the Islamic world today the elite and the youth aspire for the restitution of the grandeur and glory of the Islamic Ummah. The hypocritical slogans of the imperialists have lost their charm and their foul intentions have gradually become exposed for the Islamic Ummah.

On the other hand, the world-eaters, who entertain hopes of global dominance are alarmed by the awakening of the Islamic Ummah and its unity. They regard them as the obstacle in the way of their destructive plots that they are striving to overcome. Today is the time to foster brotherhood practically in all the spheres and as a deterrent against all the threats. Today is the time to work for bringing about conditions conducive to the establishment of the government of Imam Mahdi, may Allah soon bring about his noble appearance. Today is the time to respond to the Divine summons in all the walks of life. Today is the time to accustom our hearts to the chant of such Qur?anic verses as "Indeed the faithful are brethren," and "Do not say to someone who offers you peace, ?You are not a believer,?" and the verse "hard against the faithless and merciful amongst themselves."

Let us realize our God-assigned duties whether it is with regard to the bombardment of Najaf, Falluja and Mosul, or the Tsunami in the Indian Ocean which has left tens of thousands of bereaved families, whether it is with respect to the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan or the chronicles of Palestine written everyday in blood.

We call on all Muslims to unite. This unity is neither directed against the Christians nor against followers of any other religion or creed. It is in fact a call for resistance to aggressors, occupiers and war-mongers. It is a call for carrying out the norms of ethics and spirituality, for the revival of rationality and Islamic justice, for scientific and economic progress and for the restitution of Islamic honor.

We remind the people of the world that Christians and Jews enjoyed complete peace and security in the city of Quds under Muslim rule during the era of the caliphate. But now that Quds and other territories are under the yoke of the Zionists and the Zionist crusaders, shedding the blood of Muslims is not considered an offence.

I call upon the dear Hajj pilgrims to remember God with humility and penitence, to read the Qur?an with thought and reflection, to attend regularly the congregational prayers, and to treat with kindness pilgrims from other countries, and I advise them to refrain from whiling away their time.

I pray to God to accept your worship and to grant you success and welfare. I invite everyone to pray for the personage of the Baqiyyatullah, may our souls be ransomed for him, and for the establishment of the just world government by him?he whom God has reserved for this task.


Was-Salamu ?alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh





In Iran, this dude is an Ayatollah.

For a while, though, I thought I was just reading another limpwristed anti-war rant. Heh heh..

If Jerry Falwell was preaching it, that's what christians would call a hell, fire, and brimstone sermon. just change quran to bible, christian to muslim, and israel/jew to iran/muslim and he'd be off and running
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: rickn
If Jerry Falwell was preaching it, that's what christians would call a hell, fire, and brimstone sermon. just change quran to bible, christian to muslim, and israel/jew to iran/muslim and he'd be off and running

There is one Jerry Falwell. Name some other wacko christian leaders?

While there are many of these radical clerics, imams, mullahs in Islam.

 

rickn

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: rickn
If Jerry Falwell was preaching it, that's what christians would call a hell, fire, and brimstone sermon. just change quran to bible, christian to muslim, and israel/jew to iran/muslim and he'd be off and running

There is one Jerry Falwell. Name some other wacko christian leaders?

While there are many of these radical clerics, imams, mullahs in Islam.

no way dude, you don't get off that easy. if you want me to name names, I want you to name every crackpot Imam too.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: rickn
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: rickn
If Jerry Falwell was preaching it, that's what christians would call a hell, fire, and brimstone sermon. just change quran to bible, christian to muslim, and israel/jew to iran/muslim and he'd be off and running

There is one Jerry Falwell. Name some other wacko christian leaders?

While there are many of these radical clerics, imams, mullahs in Islam.

no way dude, you don't get off that easy. if you want me to name names, I want you to name every crackpot Imam too.

there are thousands of these Islamist radical clerics. I can give you hundreds of articles if you wish.

your not gonna get off easy either. go ahead name some names of christian radicals who preach this

also there is a big difference, one is preaching ideology, and the other is preaching violence against the non believers
 

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: rickn
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: rickn
If Jerry Falwell was preaching it, that's what christians would call a hell, fire, and brimstone sermon. just change quran to bible, christian to muslim, and israel/jew to iran/muslim and he'd be off and running

There is one Jerry Falwell. Name some other wacko christian leaders?

While there are many of these radical clerics, imams, mullahs in Islam.

no way dude, you don't get off that easy. if you want me to name names, I want you to name every crackpot Imam too.

there are thousands of these Islamist radical clerics. I can give you hundreds of articles if you wish.

your not gonna get off easy either. go ahead name some names of christian radicals who preach this

also there is a big difference, one is preaching ideology, and the other is preaching violence against the non believers
Not preaching violence, but giving the mass's what they want,,,a reason to hate.
 

rickn

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: rickn
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: rickn
If Jerry Falwell was preaching it, that's what christians would call a hell, fire, and brimstone sermon. just change quran to bible, christian to muslim, and israel/jew to iran/muslim and he'd be off and running

There is one Jerry Falwell. Name some other wacko christian leaders?

While there are many of these radical clerics, imams, mullahs in Islam.

no way dude, you don't get off that easy. if you want me to name names, I want you to name every crackpot Imam too.

there are thousands of these Islamist radical clerics. I can give you hundreds of articles if you wish.

your not gonna get off easy either. go ahead name some names of christian radicals who preach this

also there is a big difference, one is preaching ideology, and the other is preaching violence against the non believers

other peoples opinion pieces won't impress me. I've heard first hand Jerry's hate mongering. To me, he's no different than the rest.
 

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: slick230
Islam, the religion of peace.

ha

Not only one of the biggest Muslims bashers on P&N, but a liar to try to make his case that Muslims are terrorist. 1) You said you were there in NYC during 9/11 and you witnessed the attacks, BS. 2) You said Pakistan is a fake country. You keep saying Pakistan only attacks India and no problems are coming out of India 3) This is what you said about Muslims: Heck, a lot of them think that Israel attacked US on 9/11 and not their fellow muslims. (Really?) 4) You make a thread about a catholic priest being kidnapped in Iraq, post a link and nowhere in that link does it say a Muslim kidnapped him but in your title you say "Muslims". 5) You take the actions of Palestinians and label it as the majority of Muslims. "Muslims danced on the street when 9/11 happend". I clearly told you it was a handful of Palestinians and you still wanted to label it as the general Muslim population to spread your hate. 6) You make a stupid thread about "didn't 9/11 teach us anything" and you have no answer to what you want the U.S to do. The only clear answer is to kick out all the Muslims otherwise your thread is a waste of space. 7) You said you had a "cousin" who recently went to Europe and saw Muslims all over the place wearing traditional clothing etc. You said that right after you made a comment about Muslim terrorist. I didn't know clothing made one a terrorist? 8) I was not "allowed" to compare Iran's population to India's population because Iran is an "islamic regime" and India is "democratic" regime. I didn't know that made people less human?

You are the biggest fool here. Your hate disgust me. Your hate for Muslims is all because of the problems in your country and you continue to blame everything on Pakistan. You get away with your "India is so perfect" crap because nobody here gives a rats ass about India and they dont care what is going on in India to know India has many Hindu terrorist groups. Lets start talking about them?

You're the same fool who said "No terrorist are coming into Iraq from Saudi Arabia". Who the hell says that? Are you a closed-minded person? Majority of the attacks are coming from people from Arab nations with the majority from Saudi Arabia yet they do not cross into Iraq from their own country when they are allowed to? How did you ever graduate high school?

You also believe Iraq had WMD, but you have no proof. You say with absolute fact Syria has Iraq's WMD. No doubt about it. Your proof is some report on some website that nobody has ever heard of.

You lack common sense. You lack the ability the function outside society. I wouldn't be surprised if your mom has to drive you to school every morning and kiss you to bed every night.

:thumbsup: for your effort, raildogg you got owned.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: MegaWorks
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: slick230
Islam, the religion of peace.

ha

Not only one of the biggest Muslims bashers on P&N, but a liar to try to make his case that Muslims are terrorist. 1) You said you were there in NYC during 9/11 and you witnessed the attacks, BS. 2) You said Pakistan is a fake country. You keep saying Pakistan only attacks India and no problems are coming out of India 3) This is what you said about Muslims: Heck, a lot of them think that Israel attacked US on 9/11 and not their fellow muslims. (Really?) 4) You make a thread about a catholic priest being kidnapped in Iraq, post a link and nowhere in that link does it say a Muslim kidnapped him but in your title you say "Muslims". 5) You take the actions of Palestinians and label it as the majority of Muslims. "Muslims danced on the street when 9/11 happend". I clearly told you it was a handful of Palestinians and you still wanted to label it as the general Muslim population to spread your hate. 6) You make a stupid thread about "didn't 9/11 teach us anything" and you have no answer to what you want the U.S to do. The only clear answer is to kick out all the Muslims otherwise your thread is a waste of space. 7) You said you had a "cousin" who recently went to Europe and saw Muslims all over the place wearing traditional clothing etc. You said that right after you made a comment about Muslim terrorist. I didn't know clothing made one a terrorist? 8) I was not "allowed" to compare Iran's population to India's population because Iran is an "islamic regime" and India is "democratic" regime. I didn't know that made people less human?

You are the biggest fool here. Your hate disgust me. Your hate for Muslims is all because of the problems in your country and you continue to blame everything on Pakistan. You get away with your "India is so perfect" crap because nobody here gives a rats ass about India and they dont care what is going on in India to know India has many Hindu terrorist groups. Lets start talking about them?

You're the same fool who said "No terrorist are coming into Iraq from Saudi Arabia". Who the hell says that? Are you a closed-minded person? Majority of the attacks are coming from people from Arab nations with the majority from Saudi Arabia yet they do not cross into Iraq from their own country when they are allowed to? How did you ever graduate high school?

You also believe Iraq had WMD, but you have no proof. You say with absolute fact Syria has Iraq's WMD. No doubt about it. Your proof is some report on some website that nobody has ever heard of.

You lack common sense. You lack the ability the function outside society. I wouldn't be surprised if your mom has to drive you to school every morning and kiss you to bed every night.

:thumbsup: for your effort, raildogg you got owned.

hahah, very convenient of you. gg's

maybe if you looked in the actual threads hes referring you'd get a knowledge, but ok, believe what u want. if i got owned i got owned, w/e, your opinion
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Aimster your a moron, India is not my country. Stop your sickening lies.

Now you are not from India? Another lie because of everything I pointed out?
 

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You know Iran is messed up when they invite Castro to speak and start negotiations with him.

"Iran and Cuba, in cooperation with each other, can bring America to its knees. The US regime is very weak, and we are witnessing this weakness from close up," Castro affirmed.

http://www.hermanos.org/docs/afp022802.htm

Iran is an epic country of revolutions, culture and civilisations. I feel at home over here

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wor...iddle_east/1318840.stm

LOL maybe its just cause am Cuban but I find this funny.
 

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"Iran and Cuba, in cooperation with each other, can bring America to its knees."

Hahahaha! That is so funny!

Lol they've been at this for years. Casto goes to Iran and Iranian leaders go to Cuba.
 

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
"Iran and Cuba, in cooperation with each other, can bring America to its knees."

Hahahaha! That is so funny!

Lol they've been at this for years. Casto goes to Iran and Iranian leaders go to Cuba.

I know its crazy though Castro basically barred churches and religion once he got into power but yet he is friendly with Iran.Odd but than again Castro accepted the Pope in Cuba so I've seen stranger things.