To Whom Is George Zimmerman a Hero? And Why?

emperus

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I've always wondered the same esp. regarding a lot of people on this... What makes people lionize Zimmerman. What ideal does he represent? This writer puts some thought behind it.

The narrative of righteous slaughter.


George Zimmerman was signing autographs at a gun show in Orlando recently. Only 200 showed up for the meet-and-greet, but Zimmerman has many supporters around the country, and, as Jonathan Capeheart says:

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I keep wondering how Jonathan Haidt—with his theory of the differing values of liberals and conservatives—would explain this embrace of Zimmerman. The liberal reaction presents no problems. Haidt says that liberal morality rests on two principles:

http://www.psmag.com/navigation/politics-and-law/george-zimmerman-hero-77272/
 

cubby1223

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It isn't so much that Zimmerman is a hero, people are against those who went bat-shit crazy against Zimmerman, largely fueled by demonstrably false perceptions and retellings of the events.

Chances are very high there was nothing wrong with what Zimmerman did that day, but the ensuing media storm was fucking ridiculous.

You still believe Zimmerman is viewed as a hero. You still have a false perceptions of reality.
 

Nebor

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People don't admire him for shooting some black kid. They admire him for taking on the system and winning.
 

corwin

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Hero? Only to idiots...

Poster boy for being falsely accused and prosecuted for what was pretty clearly justified self defense and demonized by the media, yes...hero no.
 

emperus

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Hero? Only to idiots...

Poster boy for being falsely accused and prosecuted for what was pretty clearly justified self defense and demonized by the media, yes...hero no.

You guys should probably read the article first.
 

Ns1

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Hero? Only to idiots...

Poster boy for being falsely accused and prosecuted for what was pretty clearly justified self defense and demonized by the media, yes...hero no.

this.
 

corwin

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You guys should probably read the article first.
I read the bullshit article, my answer still stands...but I suppose you could lump racists in with idiots for the purpose of my initial response

And that only 200 people showed up in the city of Orlando, population ~250k (and that's just the city itself, greater metro area is over 2mil), shows that there aren't that many idiots out there ;)
 
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cubby1223

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There was the perception being pushed by many that basically believed the primary intent of "stand your ground" laws was specifically to legalize the murder of black people.

And Zimmerman was the prime example "proving" their beliefs.


Does someone out there worship Zimmerman? I don't fucking care. But those who wanted Zimmerman punished to the extreme, those who believed that an innocent verdict meant slavery was back in full force, those who were itching to bring back to life the fights of the 60's, I am fully against and believe most rational people are against.

Zimmerman was a pawn in the shit-storm, and I do kind of feel sorry he suffered the wrath of the stupid from within our country.

That's as far as I care on this subject.
 
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HTFOff

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You guys should probably read the article first.

No. Don't care.

You should probably not create threads related to Zimmerman again. Ever.

Would you like me to create some benghazi threads? 'Cause i'll fucking do it.
 

Theb

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People don't admire him for shooting some black kid. They admire him for taking on the system and winning.

That makes some sense. Would you line up for a handshake and an autograph? That's the part I really don't understand.
 

MrPickins

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You still believe Zimmerman is viewed as a hero. You still have a false perceptions of reality.

I don't really care one way or the other, but lining up for the guy's autograph definitely says something about how these people feel about him...
 

corwin

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That makes some sense. Would you line up for a handshake and an autograph? That's the part I really don't understand.
Hell no, and neither would the overwhelmingly vast majority of people as shown by the .0001% turnout
 

corwin

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I don't really care one way or the other, but lining up for the guy's autograph definitely says something about how these people feel about him...
200 of them, half of which probably thought they were in line for the iPhone 6:awe:

Seriously, trying to psycho analyze a tiny drop in the bucket of people is just fucking dumb, and trying to push that analysis onto gun owners in general is pure idiocy
 

cubby1223

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The bigger question in all of this is why Trayvon was a hero and a martyr to many?

You cannot create a false reality and expect people to make self-sacrifices helping you correct the wrongs that exist only within your false reality.
 

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IMHO Zimmerman is the hero aqs he had to fight of the attack of trayvon any way possible. It was a fight to the death and trayvon had to go.
 

emperus

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After the the trial was over, I found out the GZ's wife left him shortly before (the night before I believe) the incident. How many people knew that before the trial was over? A lot of people on this forum and other places spent copious amounts of time in the search for the truth (i.e trying to discredit TM) yet people let Zimmerman's narrative of that evening stand.

So, my question was, what drove people to so forcefully support and revere him, when all we knew at the moment was there was a dead kid and a man who shot him?
 
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Londo_Jowo

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The majority of the evidence/witness statements supported his claim of self defense. The prosecution violated the law when they arrested and charged him as they had no evidence to support such. Many people who opposed the arrest and prosecution didn't do so because they saw Zimmerman as a hero but a person who was wrongly prosecuted. These same people were happy when the system worked and the jury found him not guilty of the charges against him.
 

Zaap

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I see Zimmerman as a fucking loser- self appointed neighborhood watch idiot who picked the very fight that he supposedly needed to kill someone one in order to defend himself from. That's the chickenshit version of self-defense in my book.

Had he been minding his own business, and randomly attacked out of the blue, attacked by someone that had it out for him, or attacked on his own property by some aggressive intruder, then I'd be the first to say it was legit. But following people around, picking a fight you can't finish and then using deadly force to get yourself out of the shit you started yourself is pussy chickenshit. But then, I guess that's what a lot of our society is becoming. A bunch of fucking pussies who celebrate one of their own.
 

Jaskalas

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To Whom Is George Zimmerman a Hero? And Why?

For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction. The media narrative portraying Zimmerman in such a murderous / monstrous light overreached the reality of the situation. In their reach they riled up a feeding frenzy. So he gets arrested / sent to trial and gained significant media coverage where everyone's talking about it.

Such polarizing publicity, by itself, results in people who hate him or love him regardless of the facts.
 

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