Well, I'll explain it again, comparing police gun use to a regular person is wrong because police go looking for criminals and have a much much higher chance of finding one than you or I. Because of this, they have a much higher chance of finding one, having to pull a gun on him, and even a small chance of having it taken away from them and used on them. If I ever have to sit around and worry about not only having to pull a gun, but also having it used against me after a scuffle with a "street hood" I'm either gonna move or sit at home in a dark corner of my house.
Well, I'll explain it again, comparing police gun use to a regular person is wrong because police go looking for criminals and have a much much higher chance of finding one than you or I. Because of this, they have a much higher chance of finding one, having to pull a gun on him, and even a small chance of having it taken away from them and used on them. If I ever have to sit around and worry about not only having to pull a gun, but also having it used against me after a scuffle with a "street hood" I'm either gonna move or sit at home in a dark corner of my house.
I don't like Glocks, they're too lightweight and don't feel well balanced to me. Also, the 17 (9mm) I fired stovepiped constantly. Could have just been one bad experience, but I wouldn't buy one to find out.
I have a Sig P226 in .40 and it's rock solid. I've also fired a Kimber .45 that belonged to a friend that I really liked.
I have a Sig P226 in .40 and it's rock solid. I've also fired a Kimber .45 that belonged to a friend that I really liked.
What exactly are you 'explaining' to me? Police undergo training on weapon retention techniques and tactics, yet many are still shot with there own weapon. You are limiting your thinking to what kind of situation you might encounter where you might need to defend yourself, and limiting your ability to react to it by discounting it as something not likely to happen... You should open yourself to any possibility, within reason, and be prepared to act accordingly. If you should ever have to resort to pulling a weapon, the person on the other end may be irrational, on drugs, desperate or just plain crazy... And you should be prepared to act in what ever manner you need to to preserve your own life or the life of others, should that person think he might have a chance of getting that weapon from you. Like I was told in Airborne School when discussing the possibility of deploying a reserve chute, 'you better know how to do it, because you have the rest of your life to figure it out...'
I think I'd like to see something to back up this claim "that a large percentage of police officers are shot with there own gun" because I'm not buying it.
I don't really like them myself, I like as heavy a pistol as I can get, and like someone else said, I don't like the way the Glocks sit in my hand, and I really hate the trigger. A friend has two CZ75 9MMs, the original one and the new smaller one. Both are great.
I'm currently not shooting much, but I have kept two of my handguns, a Beretta Jetfire .25 auto, and a Bernardelli P018 9MM. This is an all steel gun, kind of like a cross between a Beretta and a Ruger. I got it cheap and it's extremely well made, but not really popular. I think they may have gone out of the handgun business though.
Originally posted by: edro13
Good choice! Sigs are great. I have never shot a P229, but I have a P226.Originally posted by: Promethply
Thanks for your input, but yeah, I've decided to get the SigSauer P229
Yeah, it fits my hand perfectly as well.
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Originally posted by: Promethply
Yeah, I've only used bolt action hunting rifles up to the .338 Winchester Magnum, and 12 gauge pump action shotgun.
So, obviously a total newbie to the world of handguns
Jeezus!!! That's some shoulder pounding armament there.
I own a Glock 17, a Colt .45, a Para-Ordnance LDA, a Smith & Wesson model 629 (.44 Magnum) and a Beretta Tomcat .32 ACP. I like them all and they are all quite fun to shoot and accurate.
I've shot pretty much most of the common handguns. I like the Glocks, they are very reliable and accurate I've found. Can't beat them for the money. Can't go wrong with a Sig though either. I don't like the HKs because they are too large and don't feel right in my hand. I also am not a fan of the Desert Eagles I've shot. They have a tendancy to eject shells right back at the shooter's face.
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Promethply
Yeah, I've only used bolt action hunting rifles up to the .338 Winchester Magnum, and 12 gauge pump action shotgun.
So, obviously a total newbie to the world of handguns
Jeezus!!! That's some shoulder pounding armament there.
I own a Glock 17, a Colt .45, a Para-Ordnance LDA, a Smith & Wesson model 629 (.44 Magnum) and a Beretta Tomcat .32 ACP. I like them all and they are all quite fun to shoot and accurate.
I've shot pretty much most of the common handguns. I like the Glocks, they are very reliable and accurate I've found. Can't beat them for the money. Can't go wrong with a Sig though either. I don't like the HKs because they are too large and don't feel right in my hand. I also am not a fan of the Desert Eagles I've shot. They have a tendancy to eject shells right back at the shooter's face.
Some of those handguns you've owned and tried are hand-cannons as well.
But yeah, I've been hooked on hunting for quite a while -- blame it on the fresh air, beautiful scenery, and my taste for venison, duck meat, and the occasional bear meat.
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Originally posted by: Promethply
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Promethply
Yeah, I've only used bolt action hunting rifles up to the .338 Winchester Magnum, and 12 gauge pump action shotgun.
So, obviously a total newbie to the world of handguns
Jeezus!!! That's some shoulder pounding armament there.
I own a Glock 17, a Colt .45, a Para-Ordnance LDA, a Smith & Wesson model 629 (.44 Magnum) and a Beretta Tomcat .32 ACP. I like them all and they are all quite fun to shoot and accurate.
I've shot pretty much most of the common handguns. I like the Glocks, they are very reliable and accurate I've found. Can't beat them for the money. Can't go wrong with a Sig though either. I don't like the HKs because they are too large and don't feel right in my hand. I also am not a fan of the Desert Eagles I've shot. They have a tendancy to eject shells right back at the shooter's face.
Some of those handguns you've owned and tried are hand-cannons as well.
But yeah, I've been hooked on hunting for quite a while -- blame it on the fresh air, beautiful scenery, and my taste for venison, duck meat, and the occasional bear meat.
I have a .300 Win Mag rifle that was punishing to shoot. I almost got rid of it but decided to put a thicker recoil pad and muzzle brake on it and give it one last chance. The gun is a pussycat now in comparison and I can actually shoot it accurately now. I have a .12 gauge pump and a .20 Over/Under Beretta shotgun also. Here is a pic of my .300 Win Mag and the O/U.
Edit-The .44 Magnum I own now isn't that punishing to shoot. It is a large frame revolver with an 8" barrel. It is very accurate and fun to shoot. Probably make a great hunting handgun actually with a scope. I've shot a .454 Casull single action handgun...now that is a hand cannon!!! The rounds are $.50 each though. That can get expensive!
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I have a .300 Win Mag rifle that was punishing to shoot. I almost got rid of it but decided to put a thicker recoil pad and muzzle brake on it and give it one last chance. The gun is a pussycat now in comparison and I can actually shoot it accurately now. I have a .12 gauge pump and a .20 Over/Under Beretta shotgun also. Here is a pic of my .300 Win Mag and the O/U.
Edit-The .44 Magnum I own now isn't that punishing to shoot. It is a large frame revolver with an 8" barrel. It is very accurate and fun to shoot. Probably make a great hunting handgun actually with a scope.
True, and the 7mm Remington Magnum is my favorite all around caliber since it's much friendlier on my shoulder, and with the right bullet it can even bag you a grizzly, but I use it mostly on deers.
Yeah, that 8 inch barelled .44 Magnum revolver would make a good hunting handgun. Your rifle and shotgun looks quite immaculate BTW :thumbsup:
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Originally posted by: Promethply
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I have a .300 Win Mag rifle that was punishing to shoot. I almost got rid of it but decided to put a thicker recoil pad and muzzle brake on it and give it one last chance. The gun is a pussycat now in comparison and I can actually shoot it accurately now. I have a .12 gauge pump and a .20 Over/Under Beretta shotgun also. Here is a pic of my .300 Win Mag and the O/U.
Edit-The .44 Magnum I own now isn't that punishing to shoot. It is a large frame revolver with an 8" barrel. It is very accurate and fun to shoot. Probably make a great hunting handgun actually with a scope.
True, and the 7mm Remington Magnum is my favorite all around caliber since it's much friendlier on my shoulder, and with the right bullet it can even bag you a grizzly, but I use it mostly on deers.
Yeah, that 8 inch barelled .44 Magnum revolver would make a good hunting handgun. Your rifle and shotgun looks quite immaculate BTW :thumbsup:
I've owned that rifle for about 11 years now. I had the barrel and scope mount reblued because of some scratches when I had the muzzle brake installed (not as a result of the muzzle brake...the scratches were from my carelessness). The stock is in excellent shape. I keep it waxed and try not to bang it against stuff too much when out in the field. I also had a trigger job done. It has a nice crisp release now, much better than stock. It's a keeper.
I've had the Beretta for about 1 year. Bought it new last summer and I've only really used it for sporting clays so far but plan on taking it bird hunting this fall. I could shoot it all day.
My best friend has a 7mm Magnum Sako. He bagged a deer with it in PA a couple years ago. Also a nice rifle right out of the box but he complains about the recoil. He's thinking of having a muzzle brake and recoil pad installed on his now.
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Promethply
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I have a .300 Win Mag rifle that was punishing to shoot. I almost got rid of it but decided to put a thicker recoil pad and muzzle brake on it and give it one last chance. The gun is a pussycat now in comparison and I can actually shoot it accurately now. I have a .12 gauge pump and a .20 Over/Under Beretta shotgun also. Here is a pic of my .300 Win Mag and the O/U.
Edit-The .44 Magnum I own now isn't that punishing to shoot. It is a large frame revolver with an 8" barrel. It is very accurate and fun to shoot. Probably make a great hunting handgun actually with a scope.
True, and the 7mm Remington Magnum is my favorite all around caliber since it's much friendlier on my shoulder, and with the right bullet it can even bag you a grizzly, but I use it mostly on deers.
Yeah, that 8 inch barelled .44 Magnum revolver would make a good hunting handgun. Your rifle and shotgun looks quite immaculate BTW :thumbsup:
I've owned that rifle for about 11 years now. I had the barrel and scope mount reblued because of some scratches when I had the muzzle brake installed (not as a result of the muzzle brake...the scratches were from my carelessness). The stock is in excellent shape. I keep it waxed and try not to bang it against stuff too much when out in the field. I also had a trigger job done. It has a nice crisp release now, much better than stock. It's a keeper.
I've had the Beretta for about 1 year. Bought it new last summer and I've only really used it for sporting clays so far but plan on taking it bird hunting this fall. I could shoot it all day.
My best friend has a 7mm Magnum Sako. He bagged a deer with it in PA a couple years ago. Also a nice rifle right out of the box but he complains about the recoil. He's thinking of having a muzzle brake and recoil pad installed on his now.
My 7mm Remington Magnum's a Ruger, isn't much of a looker, but it's quite accurate, and recoil? --- what recoil
it's much friendlier than the .338 Winchester Magnum
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Originally posted by: Promethply
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Promethply
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I have a .300 Win Mag rifle that was punishing to shoot. I almost got rid of it but decided to put a thicker recoil pad and muzzle brake on it and give it one last chance. The gun is a pussycat now in comparison and I can actually shoot it accurately now. I have a .12 gauge pump and a .20 Over/Under Beretta shotgun also. Here is a pic of my .300 Win Mag and the O/U.
Edit-The .44 Magnum I own now isn't that punishing to shoot. It is a large frame revolver with an 8" barrel. It is very accurate and fun to shoot. Probably make a great hunting handgun actually with a scope.
True, and the 7mm Remington Magnum is my favorite all around caliber since it's much friendlier on my shoulder, and with the right bullet it can even bag you a grizzly, but I use it mostly on deers.
Yeah, that 8 inch barelled .44 Magnum revolver would make a good hunting handgun. Your rifle and shotgun looks quite immaculate BTW :thumbsup:
I've owned that rifle for about 11 years now. I had the barrel and scope mount reblued because of some scratches when I had the muzzle brake installed (not as a result of the muzzle brake...the scratches were from my carelessness). The stock is in excellent shape. I keep it waxed and try not to bang it against stuff too much when out in the field. I also had a trigger job done. It has a nice crisp release now, much better than stock. It's a keeper.
I've had the Beretta for about 1 year. Bought it new last summer and I've only really used it for sporting clays so far but plan on taking it bird hunting this fall. I could shoot it all day.
My best friend has a 7mm Magnum Sako. He bagged a deer with it in PA a couple years ago. Also a nice rifle right out of the box but he complains about the recoil. He's thinking of having a muzzle brake and recoil pad installed on his now.
My 7mm Remington Magnum's a Ruger, isn't much of a looker, but it's quite accurate, and recoil? --- what recoil
Eh, he's just a wuss. The .300 Win Mag had a recoil pad that was about the thickness of a tire tread and about as soft. Now it has one about an inch thick with much better absorbtion. I used to be able to handle recoil a little better...must be getting soft in my 30s...
Here are my handguns.
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Promethply
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Promethply
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I have a .300 Win Mag rifle that was punishing to shoot. I almost got rid of it but decided to put a thicker recoil pad and muzzle brake on it and give it one last chance. The gun is a pussycat now in comparison and I can actually shoot it accurately now. I have a .12 gauge pump and a .20 Over/Under Beretta shotgun also. Here is a pic of my .300 Win Mag and the O/U.
Edit-The .44 Magnum I own now isn't that punishing to shoot. It is a large frame revolver with an 8" barrel. It is very accurate and fun to shoot. Probably make a great hunting handgun actually with a scope.
True, and the 7mm Remington Magnum is my favorite all around caliber since it's much friendlier on my shoulder, and with the right bullet it can even bag you a grizzly, but I use it mostly on deers.
Yeah, that 8 inch barelled .44 Magnum revolver would make a good hunting handgun. Your rifle and shotgun looks quite immaculate BTW :thumbsup:
I've owned that rifle for about 11 years now. I had the barrel and scope mount reblued because of some scratches when I had the muzzle brake installed (not as a result of the muzzle brake...the scratches were from my carelessness). The stock is in excellent shape. I keep it waxed and try not to bang it against stuff too much when out in the field. I also had a trigger job done. It has a nice crisp release now, much better than stock. It's a keeper.
I've had the Beretta for about 1 year. Bought it new last summer and I've only really used it for sporting clays so far but plan on taking it bird hunting this fall. I could shoot it all day.
My best friend has a 7mm Magnum Sako. He bagged a deer with it in PA a couple years ago. Also a nice rifle right out of the box but he complains about the recoil. He's thinking of having a muzzle brake and recoil pad installed on his now.
My 7mm Remington Magnum's a Ruger, isn't much of a looker, but it's quite accurate, and recoil? --- what recoil
Eh, he's just a wuss. The .300 Win Mag had a recoil pad that was about the thickness of a tire tread and about as soft. Now it has one about an inch thick with much better absorbtion. I used to be able to handle recoil a little better...must be getting soft in my 30s...
Here are my handguns.
Oh well, everyone has different threshold to recoil, I suppose
But yeah, I'm in the same boat, physically not quite the same person as I was in my younger days.Wow, you've got a good collection of handguns there: Which one of those do you find most practical to use?
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