Is there any point to install WinMe on a P200 w/64 MB RAM and more than enough HD space? Would it speed up or slow down the system. Thanks!
-mosdef
-mosdef
To install WinMe or not to install WinMe, that is the question.
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Well for a computer with those specs I would be against installing WinME, though mind you all experience working with it, only results in problems, and slow downs, and for a PII 200, a slowdown is the last thing you want. I say go with Win98SE, that would be your best bet.
--Mark
Well for a computer with those specs I would be against installing WinME, though mind you all experience working with it, only results in problems, and slow downs, and for a PII 200, a slowdown is the last thing you want. I say go with Win98SE, that would be your best bet.
--Mark
win ME is slower than any other of the 9x, but its got a tad more candy. win ME is a joke of an upgrade if you already have 98SE. Just my opinion, but if its got 95, upgrade to ME, if its 98SE keep 98.....
Sounds good to me! I have Win98SE on here right now. I guess Me would create more problems than it would solve.
-mosdef
-mosdef
Hm. OBVIOUSLY we have too many anti-Microsofters who simply can't be reasonable and objective when it comes to giving opinions on Microsoft products. Since I'm neither against nor for Microsoft, I suppose I would just have to throw in my $.02.
The boot-up and shutdown process of Windows ME is the fastest among Win9x. Application speed in ME is about the same with Win 98. Overall, Windows Me is pretty stable. I have been using it for almost two months now and have only encountered two programs that caused my puta to hang up and crash. One troublemaker is the sneaky Web3000 spyware that was bundled with Netcaptor. Web3000 secretly installed itself in my start-up program group and then refused to be uninstalled. I had to use Ad-aware to exterminate Web3000 and fix the KRNL386 and Kernel32 conflicts caused by Web3000. The second program is Plextor Manager 2000. One of the Manager's feature is consistently causing system hang-up. Plextor tech support is aware of the problem and is fixing the bug.
So my conclusion is that Windows ME itself is a fast and stable OS. However, buggy third-party software would cause ME to have problems. By the way, I download quite alot of shareware and freeware and install and test run 'em on my system.
Do I like Win Me better than 98? Absolutely. Will I go back to Win 98 or even 95? - Hell No!
The boot-up and shutdown process of Windows ME is the fastest among Win9x. Application speed in ME is about the same with Win 98. Overall, Windows Me is pretty stable. I have been using it for almost two months now and have only encountered two programs that caused my puta to hang up and crash. One troublemaker is the sneaky Web3000 spyware that was bundled with Netcaptor. Web3000 secretly installed itself in my start-up program group and then refused to be uninstalled. I had to use Ad-aware to exterminate Web3000 and fix the KRNL386 and Kernel32 conflicts caused by Web3000. The second program is Plextor Manager 2000. One of the Manager's feature is consistently causing system hang-up. Plextor tech support is aware of the problem and is fixing the bug.
So my conclusion is that Windows ME itself is a fast and stable OS. However, buggy third-party software would cause ME to have problems. By the way, I download quite alot of shareware and freeware and install and test run 'em on my system.
Do I like Win Me better than 98? Absolutely. Will I go back to Win 98 or even 95? - Hell No!
Right, heres my 2pence on the subject (im from the uk, hehe).
I am far from anti-M$, i actually like windows, even windows 98 has never given me many problems, other than its poor memory management. I am currently running Whistler Pro Beta 1 and i have to say its the best thing M$ have ever produced. My computer has been rebooted twice in over 2 weeks !!! Oh, and one fo them was to install some new RAM
Im past 6 days uptime right now, heading for 7.
Now, to winME - i had it for all of 2 weeks. That was 1 week 5 days too long. For the first day or two it was fine, but then the thing fell to peices. System restore is a waste of space for a start, MP7 doesnt work right, and IE5.5 sucks. Now, im using MP7 right now on whistler and the difference is staggering, and im usig IE5.6, also cool.
STAY AWAY FROM ME !
My personal Opinion Only.
I am far from anti-M$, i actually like windows, even windows 98 has never given me many problems, other than its poor memory management. I am currently running Whistler Pro Beta 1 and i have to say its the best thing M$ have ever produced. My computer has been rebooted twice in over 2 weeks !!! Oh, and one fo them was to install some new RAM
Im past 6 days uptime right now, heading for 7.Now, to winME - i had it for all of 2 weeks. That was 1 week 5 days too long. For the first day or two it was fine, but then the thing fell to peices. System restore is a waste of space for a start, MP7 doesnt work right, and IE5.5 sucks. Now, im using MP7 right now on whistler and the difference is staggering, and im usig IE5.6, also cool.
STAY AWAY FROM ME !
My personal Opinion Only.
For some reason 98SE was extremely unstable on my system. I faced constant bluescreens, hangs, and crashes. WinME has been amazingly more stable for me so I'm extremely happy with it -- your milage will vary though.
To instal win2k or not to install winME...That's!!! the question. But since it's a p200, then go for win98 .
AoD
.AoD
Just so happens I have a Pentium 200MHz MMX with 64MB RAM and a 1.6 GB hard drive sitting right here beside me along with the Win98SE CD and the WinME CD.
The computer was running Win98SE for a while. I just upgraded to WinME a few days ago.
WinME cleans up the user interface and adds new features and options, many of which I like and use. WinME also boots faster. If you happen to screw up your system, you can always use the go back feature. WinME also integrates all the updates from the MS Windows update site, including IE5.5. WinME also includes updated drivers and hardware support. Since WinME saves the install CABS on the hard drive, you no longer need the CD when installing new hardware, or changing network settings, or adding new features to Windows.
If hard drive space is very important, stay with Win98SE. System speed and free memory remains about the same. Under WinME, however, running Norton AntiVirus in the background doesn't bog down the system nearly as much as it did previously. Stability appears solid.
All things considered, WinME is the way to go, but if you have to pay for it I would consider it a toss-up.
The computer was running Win98SE for a while. I just upgraded to WinME a few days ago.
WinME cleans up the user interface and adds new features and options, many of which I like and use. WinME also boots faster. If you happen to screw up your system, you can always use the go back feature. WinME also integrates all the updates from the MS Windows update site, including IE5.5. WinME also includes updated drivers and hardware support. Since WinME saves the install CABS on the hard drive, you no longer need the CD when installing new hardware, or changing network settings, or adding new features to Windows.
If hard drive space is very important, stay with Win98SE. System speed and free memory remains about the same. Under WinME, however, running Norton AntiVirus in the background doesn't bog down the system nearly as much as it did previously. Stability appears solid.
All things considered, WinME is the way to go, but if you have to pay for it I would consider it a toss-up.
Don't go with ME...stick with 98SE.
System 1 w/ overclocked PIII and Win98SE...no BSOD for 2 months running (thanks to Norton Systemworks)
System 2 w/ unoverclocked Duron and WinME....crashes almost on daily basis.
Plus, if you keep Win98SE defragged on a weekly basis (and not have too much startup programs)...it boots up quick too.
My PIII system (yes, it's 300 Mhz faster than the Duron) boots up faster than the Duron machine with WinME.
System 1 w/ overclocked PIII and Win98SE...no BSOD for 2 months running (thanks to Norton Systemworks
)System 2 w/ unoverclocked Duron and WinME....crashes almost on daily basis.
Plus, if you keep Win98SE defragged on a weekly basis (and not have too much startup programs)...it boots up quick too.
My PIII system (yes, it's 300 Mhz faster than the Duron) boots up faster than the Duron machine with WinME.
Well I use WinME on my system (see the sig). It works fine, like earlier Windows, but for good performance on a slow computer you must disable system restore. If you don't you get a lot of drive activity and slowdown otherwise unaccounted for. Apart from that, it's quite nice. My system is really 56Mb because of the integrated graphics.
mosdef I looked in my Windows folder yesterday and I got a fright. But even after I removed 400Mb or so of internet cache (incredible, I kid you not), my "Windows" is 1.16Gb.
If you enable system restore then Windows will use 12-15% maximum of the windows partition for that. Right now mine uses 298Mb whilst I let it use a max of 512Mb (enough to backup to a CD).
I wouldn't say ME has as big a footprint as people argue, it's still very much 9x stuff. A lot of programs are so huge now (especially games) that really, the operating system is not the criminal even with ME. Big hard drives are common now and you need one!
If you enable system restore then Windows will use 12-15% maximum of the windows partition for that. Right now mine uses 298Mb whilst I let it use a max of 512Mb (enough to backup to a CD).
I wouldn't say ME has as big a footprint as people argue, it's still very much 9x stuff. A lot of programs are so huge now (especially games) that really, the operating system is not the criminal even with ME. Big hard drives are common now and you need one!
dcdomain
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My .02 cents.
On my younger siblings computers, I recently installed WinME on both fo them since they don't really deal with computers all that much. And I must say I am impressed. It doesn't seem that much different to Win98se in terms of speed, but the multimedia capability and system restore are great features. When I was home, I hooked up my Kodak DC265 digital camera, and didn't even need to install drivers. The OS recognized it, and transferring and deleting was much faster through the ME OS than through the original Kodak drivers on Win98se. The system restore has also kicked in once or twice saving me a lot of trouble.
Of course on my newest rig, not even a week old, Win2K now refuses to boot, and I have to wait three more days before my friends get back so I can make an ERD disk on their Win2k boxes. I wish Win2K had as easy of a system restore feature like WinME.
To answer your question, I don't think it would be wise installing WinME on that 200mhz computer. I once tried installing 98se on a 90mhz pentium, and it kept hanging during the install. Had to revert back to win95. Of course, 90mhz and 200mhz is a big difference. If you are having problems with Win98se, which it doesn't seem like you are, then go for the upgrade. If not, stick with what you have.
By the way, I'm pro-Microsoft. Even though Win2K crashed on X-mas day... even though I still can't use my Win2K box as of now... and even though they've given me so many headaches in the past... kind of stupid that way.
On my younger siblings computers, I recently installed WinME on both fo them since they don't really deal with computers all that much. And I must say I am impressed. It doesn't seem that much different to Win98se in terms of speed, but the multimedia capability and system restore are great features. When I was home, I hooked up my Kodak DC265 digital camera, and didn't even need to install drivers. The OS recognized it, and transferring and deleting was much faster through the ME OS than through the original Kodak drivers on Win98se. The system restore has also kicked in once or twice saving me a lot of trouble.
Of course on my newest rig, not even a week old, Win2K now refuses to boot, and I have to wait three more days before my friends get back so I can make an ERD disk on their Win2k boxes. I wish Win2K had as easy of a system restore feature like WinME.
To answer your question, I don't think it would be wise installing WinME on that 200mhz computer. I once tried installing 98se on a 90mhz pentium, and it kept hanging during the install. Had to revert back to win95. Of course, 90mhz and 200mhz is a big difference. If you are having problems with Win98se, which it doesn't seem like you are, then go for the upgrade. If not, stick with what you have.
By the way, I'm pro-Microsoft. Even though Win2K crashed on X-mas day... even though I still can't use my Win2K box as of now... and even though they've given me so many headaches in the past... kind of stupid that way.
to Me or not to Me... that is the question
The answer for me is 2000. Slowest boot in the world, but who cares - I no longer need to reboot anyways!
-PJ
The answer for me is 2000. Slowest boot in the world, but who cares - I no longer need to reboot anyways!
-PJ
teiresias
You mention that 98SE was very unstable with your system. I have a new system and it is less stable than my old 300mhz was. what hardware are you running? I have an AMD 1000 with an ASUS A7V with pc133 ram(128 mb)
Howard
You mention that 98SE was very unstable with your system. I have a new system and it is less stable than my old 300mhz was. what hardware are you running? I have an AMD 1000 with an ASUS A7V with pc133 ram(128 mb)
Howard
I was having a lot of strange lock-up problems with SE, so I recently did a fresh install of ME and it's been smooth sailing so far. And as previous posters have mentioned, boot up time is significantly faster which is something I really appreciate considering how often I install new drivers or fiddle with network settings.
And speaking of which, are reboots still necessary under W2K or are driver changes and such done on the fly (if that's even possible?!)?
And speaking of which, are reboots still necessary under W2K or are driver changes and such done on the fly (if that's even possible?!)?
Stick with 98SE. ME just isn't worth the bother. If anything, I'd install 98Lite to slim down and speed up your 98SE install...
Sorry to repeat myself, but unless you do a lot of installs and uninstalls (fiddling, in other words) you may not find it worth the bother to upgrade to ME if you already have 98 on there. "If it ain't broke don't fix it".
AmdEmAll
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IMO WIN 98se is crap. Ive never had so many problems with that os. Now that I have WinMe I have no problems at all. And boot up is so much faster. I have one question though. How do I disable System Restore? And for a 200mhz system Win98 would be unbearably(sp?) slow. WinMe would be a little faster and Win95 would be the best. Win2000 would be the slowest due to its need for large amounts of memory.
I would stick with 98SE if I were you, especially with your system. It is the most widely excepted OS right now, you wouldn't want to be one of the few with a conflict would you?
Then again, I stayed with 95OSR2 until one year ago and the upgrade to slotA.
Then again, I stayed with 95OSR2 until one year ago and the upgrade to slotA.
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