To all of those who think Christopher REEVE was a hero.

[PingSpike]

I always thought it was pretty clear that he had selfish intentions...but I never really said anything because he was fighting for a good cause and who wants to pick on the quardapalegic....or however it is you spell that word.

 

[JDub02]

Didn't you guys know? John Kerry, if elected, will bring Christopher Reeve back to life again with government funded stem cell research.

 

[JDub02]

oh .. and he'll also use aborted fetuses to clone a Shakey's Pizza joint.

[/south park]


you're breakin' my balls, chuck.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: Whisper
Most people don't think about certain situations or disadvantages until they're in them/experiencing them personally. There's simply too much stuff out there to know about all of it. As someone mentioned, after he had his accident, he could've spent his time and money sulking, or paying doctors to solely give him drugs, therapy, etc. Instead, he also sought to help others with a disability like his own. I wonder how many people here would, after having their life changed in such a way, make an attempt to help other people in any way.

Besides, from what I saw, he never asked for public acclaim, nor to be called a "hero."

Maybe I would respect the man more if he did that BEFORE he was put in his wheelchair.

Did Lance do sh*t for anyone but himself before he had cancer? Nope.

Since when did I say Lance should be respected for his cancer awareness crap?

Why shouldn't he be respected? He's raised awareness and millions and millions of dollars? What have any of you in this thread done for your fellow man lately?

Oh right....nothing, but you've bitched a lot on the intarweb.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: Brutuskend

Originally posted by: isasir
We call baseball players "heroic" for winning games. I don't see a big deal with calling Christopher Reeve heroic.

In my opinion that's not heroic either. They are doing what they are PAID to do. Just like fire fighters and such. I can say that since I WAS a fire fighter for awhile.

Now if Joe Blow is walking down the street and runs into a burning building to save someone he doesn't know, THAT'S heroic!

In my opinion, any man or woman who risks their life in a dire situation to save another is "heroic", whether it be firefighters, soldiers, police, or EMT. So were the firefighters and policemen in 9/11 not "heroic", because they were just doing their job? Or do they have to die for you to label them as "heroic"? Curious.

I think there is a difference between greatness and heroism. Those firemen and such were heroic in that they put their life on the line for the sake of others in a certain manner. To be a hero is to be "A person noted for feats of courage or nobility of purpose, especially one who has risked or sacrificed his or her life" as webster's says. These men, irresspective of whether they were paid or not, were indeed heros. The fact that they belittle any greatness given to them makes them that more noble.

Greatness is a different animal. Baseball players such as Curt Schilling and cyclists such as Lance Armstrong are great men. They are not stereotypically heroic in that their achievements are more selfish in nature, not that that is a bad thing.

A firemen who saves lives will remain a fireman who saves lives and who is also a hero.
A man who becomes great is one who saves himself from death or meaninglessness and goes on to greater and greater things for himself.

ah whatever...

 

[waggy]

I have to agree that he was not a "hero" and i do get tired of seeing crap about him on TV.

Yes he did a lot for paraplegics and i do respect ad admire him for that. Even if it did start doing it AFTER his accident. Of course everything he did was for his benefit. Same as Lance Armstrong, Micheal J. Fox etc. Most people do not understand what they go through until they have it.

 

[0roo0roo]

he was lobbying for a potential cure that would not happen within his lifetime esp with the known problems faced by quadrapelegics

 

[Kyteland]

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: maziwanka
maddux is awesome. i just found the mothers against maddux mirror. brilliant.

Mothers against maddux?

LMAO


AUsm

As long as we're "pwn"ing people for misspelling names today.....

 

[ShotgunSteven]

I don't know how much money he had to leave to spinal cord research. I know he couldn't afford his health insurance payments any longer, and apparently Robin Williams stepped in and picked up the tab.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: JDub02
Didn't you guys know? John Kerry, if elected, will bring Christopher Reeve back to life again with government funded stem cell research.

Hallelujah!

 

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: Whisper
Most people don't think about certain situations or disadvantages until they're in them/experiencing them personally. There's simply too much stuff out there to know about all of it. As someone mentioned, after he had his accident, he could've spent his time and money sulking, or paying doctors to solely give him drugs, therapy, etc. Instead, he also sought to help others with a disability like his own. I wonder how many people here would, after having their life changed in such a way, make an attempt to help other people in any way.

Besides, from what I saw, he never asked for public acclaim, nor to be called a "hero."

Maybe I would respect the man more if he did that BEFORE he was put in his wheelchair.

Did Lance do sh*t for anyone but himself before he had cancer? Nope.

Since when did I say Lance should be respected for his cancer awareness crap?

Why shouldn't he be respected? He's raised awareness and millions and millions of dollars? What have any of you in this thread done for your fellow man lately?

Oh right....nothing, but you've bitched a lot on the intarweb.

I help out when I can. I have no physical ailements, yet I still find time to help the disabled a couple times a year and have helped with children who have been victims of horrible accidents. These celebraties don't care unless they have it, then all of a sudden they are heros? For what? Being selfish bastards and not caring until it affects them directly? Fvck them.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I think he was some poor bastard that fell off his horse and got paralyzed. No more, no less.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Last but not least, the best parody thread ownage ever?

Yes, it's semi-related to this whole thing.

Weird, something happened to the OP in that thread.

 

[maziwanka]

Originally posted by: JDub02
oh .. and he'll also use aborted fetuses to clone a Shakey's Pizza joint.

[/south park]


you're breakin' my balls, chuck.

hahahahahaha

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: JDub02
Didn't you guys know? John Kerry, if elected, will bring Christopher Reeve back to life again with government funded stem cell research.

That just killed me the first time I saw it:thumbsup:

 

[crab]

My gf met him a few years ago, and thought he was the biggest asshole she'd ever met. She is a quadriplegic herself, on a lower level, though..

I think he put false hopes in the minds of the newly injured. I've seen SCIs sit around and die simply because they were waiting for the cure he said for years was right around the corner. I've seen SCIs who spend every waking moment in therapy...which will never improve the nerves in your spine no matter how much you do. I just believe he set a slightly bad example. Our lives are cut drastically short and I don't beleive we've got time to waste waiting for a damn cure.

 

[Cobalt]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
I agree with the Maddux article and have held this view for a long time. He was an asshat.

EDIT: WOOOOOOOOO 1000.

 

[brigden]

If he didn't play Superman no one would give a shit.

 

[BigPoppa]

Originally posted by: Fausto
Anyone got a spare lawnchair? I forgot mine.

No. But how about a wheelchair?




<- Going to hell

 

[tk149]

Originally posted by: crab
My gf met him a few years ago, and thought he was the biggest asshole she'd ever met. She is a quadriplegic herself, on a lower level, though..

I think he put false hopes in the minds of the newly injured. I've seen SCIs sit around and die simply because they were waiting for the cure he said for years was right around the corner. I've seen SCIs who spend every waking moment in therapy...which will never improve the nerves in your spine no matter how much you do. I just believe he set a slightly bad example. Our lives are cut drastically short and I don't beleive we've got time to waste waiting for a damn cure.

So you'd rather have had him say, "Fvck it, give up and die."???

 

[crab]

Originally posted by: tk149

Originally posted by: crab
My gf met him a few years ago, and thought he was the biggest asshole she'd ever met. She is a quadriplegic herself, on a lower level, though..

I think he put false hopes in the minds of the newly injured. I've seen SCIs sit around and die simply because they were waiting for the cure he said for years was right around the corner. I've seen SCIs who spend every waking moment in therapy...which will never improve the nerves in your spine no matter how much you do. I just believe he set a slightly bad example. Our lives are cut drastically short and I don't beleive we've got time to waste waiting for a damn cure.

So you'd rather have had him say, "Fvck it, give up and die."???

Alot of SCIs ARE giving up on present life waiting for a cure. Why would I know this? Because I am a C6 Quadriplegic, and have been for 5 years. My GF is, too, and has been for 14. I've spent in all over a year in hospitals since. I've seen it.

I don't discount the work he did, in fact I'm greatful for whats been discovered. I just believe his words were and are false hope. I've had friends that worked their ass off day in and day out in therapy and never made an effort to get back to life because they "will when they get better". In the meantime, they drop dead from a kidney infection. Id like the things I'm living with RIGHT NOW to be improved.

 

[Brutuskend]

Originally posted by: crab

Originally posted by: tk149

Originally posted by: crab
My gf met him a few years ago, and thought he was the biggest asshole she'd ever met. She is a quadriplegic herself, on a lower level, though..

I think he put false hopes in the minds of the newly injured. I've seen SCIs sit around and die simply because they were waiting for the cure he said for years was right around the corner. I've seen SCIs who spend every waking moment in therapy...which will never improve the nerves in your spine no matter how much you do. I just believe he set a slightly bad example. Our lives are cut drastically short and I don't beleive we've got time to waste waiting for a damn cure.

So you'd rather have had him say, "Fvck it, give up and die."???

Alot of SCIs ARE giving up on present life waiting for a cure. Why would I know this? Because I am a C6 Quadriplegic, and have been for 5 years. My GF is, too, and has been for 14. I've spent in all over a year in hospitals since. I've seen it.

I don't discount the work he did, in fact I'm greatful for whats been discovered. I just believe his words were and are false hope. I've had friends that worked their ass off day in and day out in therapy and never made an effort to get back to life because they "will when they get better". In the meantime, they drop dead from a kidney infection. Id like the things I'm living with RIGHT NOW to be improved.

:thumbsup:

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: Shelly21

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Having absolutely no clue about much of anything, I find the timing of his death interesting...

Do you think he killed himself like that other guy who played superman?

<---Nurse for near 20 years, with today's modern antibiotics &amp; his $ he should have been able to survive the infection, especially considering the specialists he had taking care of him.

However, he would have been forever disfigured, and I've seen it take years to heal.

I would have offed myself had it been me... Or simply refused treatment, leading to my rather quick death.

You don't smell the stench of rotting flesh after a short time, but people that walked into his room would not have been able to cover up their reaction, the smell of rotting flesh triggers a pretty primitive revulsive response. That he would have noticed over&amp; over &amp; over.

Who was the other guy who played superman and how did he die? I have NO CLUE on the other guy is.

I wouldn't call Christopher Reeve a hero for me. BUT he was probably a hero to the suffers and his cause.

Who gives a sh!t if he didn't campaign for the cause BEFORE his injury? He is not Mother Teresea who was ALWAYS doing good. But at least he helped some people and get more awareness for their cause.

People who raise money for charity/ awareness of a cause etc should be respected. WHO cares if they used it to 'further' their own ambitions if THEY DID the main thing is that they DID SOME GOOD. That is a lot more then most people can say. People are always looking at the negative aspects of stuff and not the good acts.

Btw how was he an asshole to your gf crab? Just wondering and not picking you out.

Koing

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Does anyone know if he left a large sum of money to spinal cord research in his will?

If he did, I will say he was unselfish.

If not, I still say he was only doing it for his own benefit.

To me, a Hero is someone who risks life and limb for others with no thought for personal safety or accolade's.

I'm not saying he didn't do some good, I'm only saying he was NOT heroic IMO.

A majority of his money went into the Christopher Reeve Foundation for Spinal Cord Research buddy..

 

[jkj]

Guys Its kind of hard to say the guy didnt handle the whole thing pretty well. I know its get to be tough to deal with that situation. He had committed a great portion of the funds in his will to research acording to the news.