To all of those who think Christopher REEVE was a hero.

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FreshFish

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Originally posted by: FFactory0x
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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
It's spelled REEVES damn it. And at least link to the Maddox article.

- M4H
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ITS ACTUALLY SPELLED REEVE DAMN IT


Wow...one of the first times I've seen M4H get pwned hardcore. What a freakin' n00b
 

Pliablemoose

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Originally posted by: Shelly21
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Having absolutely no clue about much of anything, I find the timing of his death interesting...

Do you think he killed himself like that other guy who played superman?

<---Nurse for near 20 years, with today's modern antibiotics &amp; his $ he should have been able to survive the infection, especially considering the specialists he had taking care of him.

However, he would have been forever disfigured, and I've seen it take years to heal.

I would have offed myself had it been me... Or simply refused treatment, leading to my rather quick death.

You don't smell the stench of rotting flesh after a short time, but people that walked into his room would not have been able to cover up their reaction, the smell of rotting flesh triggers a pretty primitive revulsive response. That he would have noticed over&amp; over &amp; over.
 

isasir

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We call baseball players "heroic" for winning games. I don't see a big deal with calling Christopher Reeve heroic.
 

Stark

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i don't get all the hoopla

the guy made a few crappy movies, wasted a bunch of time jumping horses (is there a more "exclusive rich snob" sport out there?), and regained his lost fame by falling on his head and complaining that doctors couldn't fix him.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
I just woke up.

Plus I'm stupid and can't spell...
/passes cup of coffee over ya

You want sugar or cream?

Blacks fine (like My heart some will say after this thread...) ;)
lol, nah I wouldn't call Reeve a "hero", but he was tenacious in his cause which is admirable, especially considering the circumstances.

 

Brutuskend

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Originally posted by: isasir
We call baseball players "heroic" for winning games. I don't see a big deal with calling Christopher Reeve heroic.

In my opinion that's not heroic either. They are doing what they are PAID to do. Just like fire fighters and such. I can say that since I WAS a fire fighter for awhile.

Now if Joe Blow is walking down the street and runs into a burning building to save someone he doesn't know, THAT'S heroic!
 

Pliablemoose

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Originally posted by: Stark
i don't get all the hoopla

the guy made a few crappy movies, wasted a bunch of time jumping horses (is there a more "exclusive rich snob" sport out there?), and regained his lost fame by falling on his head and complaining that doctors couldn't fix him.

He served as a symbol of hope &amp; strength by continuing to remain in the public eye despite his horrible luck.
 

Whisper

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Most people don't think about certain situations or disadvantages until they're in them/experiencing them personally. There's simply too much stuff out there to know about all of it. As someone mentioned, after he had his accident, he could've spent his time and money sulking, or paying doctors to solely give him drugs, therapy, etc. Instead, he also sought to help others with a disability like his own. I wonder how many people here would, after having their life changed in such a way, make an attempt to help other people in any way.

Besides, from what I saw, he never asked for public acclaim, nor to be called a "hero."
 

cronos

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Originally posted by: Shelly21
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Having absolutely no clue about much of anything, I find the timing of his death interesting...

Do you think he killed himself like that other guy who played superman?

you mean George Reeves?
(yes, with an s!)
 

Originally posted by: Whisper
Most people don't think about certain situations or disadvantages until they're in them/experiencing them personally. There's simply too much stuff out there to know about all of it. As someone mentioned, after he had his accident, he could've spent his time and money sulking, or paying doctors to solely give him drugs, therapy, etc. Instead, he also sought to help others with a disability like his own. I wonder how many people here would, after having their life changed in such a way, make an attempt to help other people in any way.

Besides, from what I saw, he never asked for public acclaim, nor to be called a "hero."

Maybe I would respect the man more if he did that BEFORE he was put in his wheelchair.
 

Shelly21

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Originally posted by: saxguy
Originally posted by: Shelly21
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Having absolutely no clue about much of anything, I find the timing of his death interesting...

Do you think he killed himself like that other guy who played superman?

you mean George Reeves?
(yes, with an s!)

Yeah... supposely there's a rumor that someone shot George Reeves.
 

Pliablemoose

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One could also argue that by allowing his own death (if he did) to occur in a timely manner to assist a candidate become elected who he knew would carry on a fight that he cared deeply about (reduced restrictions on federal funding of fetal stem cell research), that act in itself could be considered heroic.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: Whisper
Most people don't think about certain situations or disadvantages until they're in them/experiencing them personally. There's simply too much stuff out there to know about all of it. As someone mentioned, after he had his accident, he could've spent his time and money sulking, or paying doctors to solely give him drugs, therapy, etc. Instead, he also sought to help others with a disability like his own. I wonder how many people here would, after having their life changed in such a way, make an attempt to help other people in any way.

Besides, from what I saw, he never asked for public acclaim, nor to be called a "hero."

Maybe I would respect the man more if he did that BEFORE he was put in his wheelchair.
Did Lance do sh*t for anyone but himself before he had cancer? Nope.

 

Descartes

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What Whisper said is abolutely true. You have to choose your battles, and it makes the most sense to choose that which is most familiar.

My opinion is that the term hero is used too liberally these days, but you can say this: He increased awareness. He used his fame to further public interest in his cause, and for that we should thank him. He had to know that the promise to walk again was a volatile one, so I don't believe it's fair to say he did it for selfish purposes only. He had a horrible accident, and he turned it into something positive for many. Countless other celebrities have done the same, including Michael J. Fox.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Originally posted by: isasir
We call baseball players "heroic" for winning games. I don't see a big deal with calling Christopher Reeve heroic.

In my opinion that's not heroic either. They are doing what they are PAID to do. Just like fire fighters and such. I can say that since I WAS a fire fighter for awhile.

Now if Joe Blow is walking down the street and runs into a burning building to save someone he doesn't know, THAT'S heroic!
In my opinion, any man or woman who risks their life in a dire situation to save another is "heroic", whether it be firefighters, soldiers, police, or EMT. So were the firefighters and policemen in 9/11 not "heroic", because they were just doing their job? Or do they have to die for you to label them as "heroic"? Curious.

 

Brutuskend

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There are varying degrees of heroism. That's why they give the Medal Of Honor to military people who are doing a job that is dangerous on a day to day basis. It's "Above and Beyond". I have no doubt that many fire fighters DID and do go above any beyond the call of duty, and in that case they would be heroes IMO.
 

Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: Whisper
Most people don't think about certain situations or disadvantages until they're in them/experiencing them personally. There's simply too much stuff out there to know about all of it. As someone mentioned, after he had his accident, he could've spent his time and money sulking, or paying doctors to solely give him drugs, therapy, etc. Instead, he also sought to help others with a disability like his own. I wonder how many people here would, after having their life changed in such a way, make an attempt to help other people in any way.

Besides, from what I saw, he never asked for public acclaim, nor to be called a "hero."

Maybe I would respect the man more if he did that BEFORE he was put in his wheelchair.
Did Lance do sh*t for anyone but himself before he had cancer? Nope.

Since when did I say Lance should be respected for his cancer awareness crap?