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[lxskllr]

I've been on a cycle where I put weight on in the winter, and lose it in the summer. I get /almost/ to where I'd like to weigh by fall, and then it's time to put the weight back on :^/

 

[snoopy7548]

I'm trying to put on weight but I can't; I lost some during the pandemic. Maybe it's a good problem to have?

Also, y'all watch too much T.V. The advertising campaigns obviously work!

 

[Torn Mind]

To be clear the "shame" I was referring to would be the internal self-inflicted kind and it exists for a purpose. No matter what "spin" is put on it, being overweight is not a positive in any way and should not be treated as one.

However anyone who intentionally shames another person because they're overweight (or really for nearly ANY reason) is pretty much a disgrace themselves.

That is assuming my health insurance rates don't triple to pay for the damage done by a diet consisting of 75% super-sized fast food meals.

I think the end aim should start with aiming to improve quality of intake rather than focusing on weight.

Weight in itself is a dependent function on both intake of calories and use of calories. The extra micronutrients are not counted. Generally, eating better quality foods and avoiding foods that promote repeat eating(carbs) will then naturally result in improved health and potentially reduced weight by virtue of simply reaching satiation sooner. Further complicating the matter is that muscle is denser than fat, thus making it ambiguous whether weight gain is good or bad.

 

[pcgeek11]

This must be the H&M video @dasherHampton was referring to.

All I could think of watching that was this:

 

[pcgeek11]

They don't see the joy because the fat is covering it up.

 

[Zorba]

I'm glad that so many of you are annoyed/irritated/whatever with these ads/movements.

Not that I am for fat shaming, but fat acceptance and ignoring healthy body mass is going to have horrible health implications down the road. Already a massively high percentage of people that died of COVID were overweight and obese. My mom has been overweight since I was born, and it has had massive health and quality of life impacts on her for years and years.

There needs to be a middle ground between "you're disgusting" if your bmi is 26 and embracing a bmi of 36 as no big deal.

Lately I've seen there is even a movement to not teach kids what is and isn't healthy, and just let them "self regulate."

 

[shortylickens]

Not that I am for fat shaming, but fat acceptance and ignoring healthy body mass is going to have horrible health implications down the road. Already a massively high percentage of people that died of COVID were overweight and obese. My mom has been overweight since I was born, and it has had massive health and quality of life impacts on her for years and years.

There needs to be a middle ground that isn't "you're disgusting" if your bmi is 26, and embracing a bmi of 36 as no big deal.

Lately I've seen there is even a movement to not teach kids what is and isn't healthy, and just let them "self regulate."

yeah, I'm sure that will work out just fine.

 

[Zorba]

I've been on a cycle where I put weight on in the winter, and lose it in the summer. I get /almost/ to where I'd like to weigh by fall, and then it's time to put the weight back on :^/

I've been on that cycle my whole life. For a long time I never lost it all back, but 12 years ago I lost the extra and have been +/- about 7 pounds since then.

 

[Fritzo]

It's the woke movement. Body positivity, etc...

Reality is of course not related, but they try to make it out to be.

It's funny because it hasn't been successful for the last 2+ years where it's really taken off, but they still keep trying it like it's going to change lol. It basically means these marketing departments are run by millenials and Twitter.


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My motto- if it doesn't affect me in the slightest but makes someone feel comfortable/accepted, then I'll play along. Have at it. I don't mind at all.

My boss's best friend is trans, post op, and is now a woman with the manliest hands I've ever seen. I ma'am, miss, lady the shit out of her in discussion...

 

[MrSquished]

Not that I am for fat shaming, but fat acceptance and ignoring healthy body mass is going to have horrible health implications down the road. Already a massively high percentage of people that died of COVID were overweight and obese. My mom has been overweight since I was born, and it has had massive health and quality of life impacts on her for years and years.

There needs to be a middle ground between "you're disgusting" if your bmi is 26 and embracing a bmi of 36 as no big deal.

Lately I've seen there is even a movement to not teach kids what is and isn't healthy, and just let them "self regulate."

Pretty much this. On one side you have the fat shaming mostly mysoginist pigs. On the other side you do have some folks that are like, it's all good! Making actual health observations is conflated with being demeaning. I'd say there are more pigs in the world, but, we could do less with either side

 

[pauldun170]

Not that I am for fat shaming, but fat acceptance and ignoring healthy body mass is going to have horrible health implications down the road. Already a massively high percentage of people that died of COVID were overweight and obese. My mom has been overweight since I was born, and it has had massive health and quality of life impacts on her for years and years.

There needs to be a middle ground between "you're disgusting" if your bmi is 26 and embracing a bmi of 36 as no big deal.

Lately I've seen there is even a movement to not teach kids what is and isn't healthy, and just let them "self regulate."

Where have you seen this movement?
How large is the movement?
How many professionals have endorsed this movement?

What part of the county does this movement exist?

 

[Zorba]

Where have you seen this movement?
How large is the movement?
How many professionals have endorsed this movement?

What part of the county does this movement exist?

One of my daughter's friend's mom is a child nutritionist and she publishes A LOT about it on Facebook and she speaks on it at conferences.

My wife goes to moms forums and has seen threads were mom's attack other moms for trying to help their kids eat healthier and get to a better weight.

No idea how big it is overall, though.

 

[Captante]

One of my daughter's friend's mom is a child nutritionist and she publishes A LOT about it on Facebook and she speaks on it at conferences.

My wife goes to moms forums and has seen threads were mom's attack other moms for trying to help their kids eat healthier and get to a better weight.

No idea how big it is overall, though.

After living through 2020 I don't know why this behavior would come as even a mild surprise. (sadly)

Couldn't possibly be influenced $omehow by the multi-billion-dollar processed food industry........ COULD IT?? (ROTFL)

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

After living through 2020 I don't know why this behavior would come as even a mild surprise.

Couldn't possibly be influenced $omehow by the multi-billion-dollar processed food industry........ COULD IT?? (ROTFL)

Moms on forums are lobbied by big food?

 

[Captante]

Moms on forums are lobbied by big food?

Everyone everywhere that's exposed to media of any kind is influenced to some degree by advertising.

Anyone popular on the major social media platforms has the potential to become a paid "influencer" and what better person to target than a "mom" who grocery-shops?

However I can offer no specific evidence to back up my claim.

 

[highland145]

Moms on forums are lobbied by big food?

Talk enough around your phone and you'll get lobbied by all kinds.

 

[lxskllr]

Moms on forums are lobbied by big food?

Not precisely, but people can be subtly influenced to promote views favorable to an organization. It wouldn't take much money for a big company to do it either. Not saying that's happening, and I don't think it is on any kind of scale, but if it came out in the news, I wouldn't be shocked.

 

[pauldun170]

One of my daughter's friend's mom is a child nutritionist and she publishes A LOT about it on Facebook and she speaks on it at conferences.

My wife goes to moms forums and has seen threads were mom's attack other moms for trying to help their kids eat healthier and get to a better weight.

No idea how big it is overall, though.

I'm so glad my household abandoned facebook.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Not precisely, but people can be subtly influenced to promote views favorable to an organization. It wouldn't take much money for a big company to do it either. Not saying that's happening, and I don't think it is on any kind of scale, but if it came out in the news, I wouldn't be shocked.

I guess, but overall there's just as much people promoting organic and all natural foods (produce).

I think the problem ultimately stems from people that stupidly think their infants and toddlers knows what's best for themselves... Which is hilariously stupid.

If it were left up to my kids they would eating nothing but addictive processed carbs.

 

[Torn Mind]

One of my daughter's friend's mom is a child nutritionist and she publishes A LOT about it on Facebook and she speaks on it at conferences.

My wife goes to moms forums and has seen threads were mom's attack other moms for trying to help their kids eat healthier and get to a better weight.

No idea how big it is overall, though.

After living through 2020 I don't know why this behavior would come as even a mild surprise. (sadly)

Couldn't possibly be influenced $omehow by the multi-billion-dollar processed food industry........ COULD IT?? (ROTFL)

The problem is that weight itself and eating healthy are two separate concepts, but are related concepts. Humans being not quite rational, tend to tie things together. So, the matter is finding the road in which people focus on eating healthy without falling into obsessing about weight and potentially developing mental health problems due to obsessing about weight, and it takes a lot of brainpower to not fall in vices on either side.

 

[Zorba]

I'm so glad my household abandoned facebook.

To be fair she is licensed and teaches this to paid clients, I don't the she had a huge following on social media, but she is trying. Some of her advice isn't terrible, like don't tell your kids to eat broccoli because it's healthy tell them what you like about it. But then other stuff to me reads like let your kid eat whatever, they'll figure out what their body needs.

Completely random, but a different one of my daughter's friend's mom's is also a nutritionist for adults and kids, and she thinks it wacky too.

 

[13Gigatons]

This thread was really about how shameful behavior was once frowned upon but is now being exploited by large companies for profit or something.

Also if you need to see old fat people putting on special clothing I'm sure that can already be found on the internet.....the rest of us do not need to see it on TV while trying to watch the game.

 

[pauldun170]

To be fair she is licensed and teaches this to paid clients, I don't the she had a huge following on social media, but she is trying. Some of her advice isn't terrible, like don't tell your kids to eat broccoli because it's healthy tell them what you like about it. But then other stuff to me reads like let your kid eat whatever, they'll figure out what their body needs.

Completely random, but a different one of my daughter's friend's mom's is also a nutritionist for adults and kids, and she thinks it wacky too.

Slightly off topic
Licensed by who?
Dieticians are an actual thing with regulations and sciences.
Nutritionists...well not so much.

 

[Brainonska511]

This thread was really about how shameful behavior was once frowned upon but is now being exploited by large companies for profit or something.

Also if you need to see old fat people putting on special clothing I'm sure that can already be found on the internet.....the rest of us do not need to see it on TV while trying to watch the game.

FFS, people being overweight isn't a behavioral flaw. And body shaming people is just a pretty douchy thing to do.

Advertisers are just trying to make money off their audience by showing the audience models who look more similar to themselves; turns out the target audience is not Sports Illustrated models.

 

[Zorba]

Slightly off topic
Licensed by who?
Dieticians are an actual thing with regulations and sciences.
Nutritionists...well not so much.

Not sure, I know she did a bunch of stuff when she first moved to Oklahoma to get licensed here. Then she somehow got approved to accept medicaid and is in network with a lot of insurance companies.

She might actually be a Dietician, and I've mixed up my terms. I'll have to ask. She moved here from Missouri, which does require you to be a Dietician to use the term "nutritionist" so I'm guessing she is actually a dietician.