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Googer

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Originally posted by: ribbon13
seriously... you should change the thread title man... it's been available for ages.


I thought it died a long time ago! I posted this and the server stoped sending me notifications that new messages were being posted. I thought it was over after page 1. I was shocked to find that several months later this thing was so huge. I was under the beleif that the moderators had deleted it a long time ago.
 

Demian0

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Hi,

please excuse me, if this question has been asked or even answered before, but I got my new A8N32-SLI yesterday and was not patient enough to read all 16 pages of this thread to possibly find a solution to my problem.

I installed the new mainboard and put all my other hardware (see my signature) - especially my 2 Western Digital 150 GB Raptor HDDs - in.

As I had configured at least 50 S-ATA RAID0 arrays on nF4-chipsets in the past, I didn`t believe there could be any problem, but now there is a serious problems I obviously can`t solve:

Booting up and entering RAID-BIOS, then selecting "Striping" and a Striping Block Size of 16kb.

Then adding both WD 150GB Raptors to the new array by moving them from the left to the right side.
After that: Closing this section with "F7" and answering the following question "Clear Disk Data ?" with "yes".

When the next screen appears, I see the newly build array, but I`n not able to set this array bootable...

In the lowest line I can select: EXIT, SELECT and DETAIL, but SET BOOT and NEW ARRAY are grey and can`t be selected.

The array itself shows the following informations:

BOOT: N/A
ID: 2
STATUS: HEALTHY
VENDOR: NVIDIA
ARRAY MODEL: STRIPE
NAME: 279,47 G

What am I doing wrong ???

What can I do to set my array bootable ???

Any hints are very much appreciated !

CU

Demian
 

Googer

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I have set up RAID arrays before, but not on the A8N32-SLi. The procedure is usually the same with most raid systems.

  1. Install drives (duh)
  2. Enter raid bios and add drives to the raid array
  3. set the array to bootable and select the stripe size (256k).

"Clear Disk Data" I would answer no to that option. I suspect that it performs a low level format or equivalent on your drives and hence destroying the array meaning you have to possibly go back to step 1.

On page 138 of 164 in the PDF manual it expains how it is done. This motherboard has two options, are you using the Silicon Image or nVIDIA RAID controller?
http://dlsvr03.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/soc...2-SLI%20Deluxe/E2280_A8N32-SLI_Dlx.pdf
 

TheRyuu

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Originally posted by: Googer
I have set up RAID arrays before, but not on the A8N32-SLi. The procedure is usually the same with most raid systems.

  1. Install drives (duh)
  2. Enter raid bios and add drives to the raid array
  3. set the array to bootable and select the stripe size (256k).

"Clear Disk Data" I would answer no to that option. I suspect that it performs a low level format or equivalent on your drives and hence destroying the array meaning you have to possibly go back to step 1.

On page 138 of 164 in the PDF manual it expains how it is done. This motherboard has two options, are you using the Silicon Image or nVIDIA RAID controller?
http://dlsvr03.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/soc...2-SLI%20Deluxe/E2280_A8N32-SLI_Dlx.pdf

@Demian0
To set up RAID (on nforce controller), first go in bios and you have to select the drives you want to use in the raid setup. I belive it's on the first page all the way on the bottom below all the HD's.

Then you have to go into th NV raid setup. I belive you have to press a key when it pops up after main bios screen. From thier select the drives that you want. Then install the drivers. If your installing windows to the drives, just make sure to make a floppy with the drivers on it. You can use the CD to make the floppy. Then just press the F key during setup and install BOTH drivers on the floppy.

That about covers it for RAID setup's. Got the same mobo (A8N32) and setup raid on it too. PM me if you need anymore help with the raid.
 

PSUPef2k

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I am seriously considering this board. Any issues to date (that have not been fixed by BIOS updates) that I should be aware of?
 

TheRyuu

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Originally posted by: PSUPef2k
I am seriously considering this board. Any issues to date (that have not been fixed by BIOS updates) that I should be aware of?

Non that I know of, anyone else?

I have this board and I can serioulsy say I love it. OC's great, fanless chipset design is both cool looking and performs well (espically with a large CPU cooler like a SI-120).
 

Skott

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Nothing specific I have seen. Most problems seem to have been with those new to the mobo in self setups or those new to building their own altogether. There probably has been a few bad mobos with factory defects but that will happen with any mobo manufacturer.
 

Amaroque

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I absolutely love this board. I have no real complaints at all.

The only thing I can think of is that I can't use the original PC Probe. I have to use PC Probe II, which doesn't keep a back log of all temperatures and voltages.

To the poster with the RAID boot problem...

You need to set up your array first. Only after the array is seen in the main BIOS as a single drive can you boot from it (this may take a couple reboots). It will show up in the BIOS as nvidia stripe. That is what you want to select as your boot drive.
 

DrZDO

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I might buy one of these in the next hour or so. I need to upgrade my non-OC-able-BIOS Asus board and see what my 3200+ Venice can do.

I like the fanless cooling (already "had" to replace a noisy csf with passive sink). I like the reviews. I don't mind the AMIBIOS (all I'm really used to anyway). 8-phase power sounds nice. I'll have to get a sound card in addition, I suppose.

I won't regret it, will I?
 

DrZDO

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Advice for improving onboard sound: Use Nvidia drivers & NvMixer (Part of Nvidia chipset driver package) instead of the Realtek drivers/software that come with the motherboard. It's not super elite Hi-Fi, but there's no more snap, crackle, pop.
 

n7

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I realize this is a tad off topic, but i just finished a little basic OCing guide for this motherboard for another forum, & i thought it might be helpful.

If anyone likes it, i'd have no issue with it being added to the OP if people feel that'd be helpful.




Aight, here's my mini Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe OCing guide :)

First off, a few things to know

CPU speed is determined by multiplier & HTT (Hyper Transport Tunnel - akin to FSB)
CPU multi x HTT = clockspeed.
On an A64 X2 4800+, that's 12 x 200 = 2400 MHz

HT (Hyper Transport) speed (akin to system bus speed) is determined by HT multi x HTT
So normally that's 5 x 200 = 1000 MHz, or 2000 MHz (doubled pumped)
It is generally recommended to keep the HT speed around or under 1000, since performance is not decreased if it's lowered, & it will remain stable.
Running the HT speed much higher than 1000 will often cause instability.

RAM speed is more complicated.
It is based off CPU speed also.
Normally it runs at the same speed as the HTT, so usually 200 MHz (DDR400).
However, when OCing, raising the RAM above it's normal operating frequency only works to a certain point.
Therefore, one can use dividers, meaning the RAM will run at a lower speed than the HTT. On A64 (or Opteron) systems, the performance hit with running the RAM slower is

very minimal, & the resulting increased CPU speed is still much faster overall.

In many cases, this is a much more complicated number to calculate, but here's the formula anyway:


How to calculate RAM dividers:

(CPU multi x 200) / RAM divider (i.e. 166) = ___(always round this up if not whole number)

CPU multi x HTT / result of initial calculation = actual RAM speed

e.g.
OCed CPU clockspeed / result of the first calculation = actual RAM speed

one full example:

12 x 200 / 166.66 = 14.4 rounded up -> 15

12 x 220 / 15 = 176 aka DDR352




Now the good news is, if that's too confusing, you can actually skip straight ahead to the actual OCing, since this guide will lay out the basics in a simple fashion :)


Okay.

Everything you'll need to change is in the advanced menu.


First, go to Advanced
Then Chipset. Then change SB to NB Frequency to 4x, or if you are raising the HTT above 250, then 3x.

There, you've now lowered the HT multi.


Now go to CPU Configuration, which oddly enough, has no settings to do with the CPU :p
Make sure the 1T/2T Memory Timing is set to 1T, unless you have all four RAM slots populated. In that case, set it to 2T if it's not already.
Then click on Memory Setting & it will lead you to
Memory Configuration.
Now select Memclock Mode > Memclock Value, which will bring up the RAM divider choices.
I'd select 166 or 183 for light OCing; you can tweak around with your RAM more later.
Also, under the Memory Configuration area, you can adjust your timings for your RAM by setting MCT Timing Mode to Manual.
You can leave everything at auto, but since often motherboard's auto settings have the RAM set to undesirable timings, you can go ahead and manually set the CAS TRCD TRP TRAS to what your RAM is rated for as long as you know those timings.
Usually the numbers are like the following:
E.g. 2-3-2-6 = CAS - TRCD - TRP - TRAS
Leave all the other RAM settings at auto unless you really know what you are doing

There, RAM divider & timings are now set.


Now to actually get to OCing the CPU :)
Head to Jumperfree Configuration

Set AI Overclocking to Manual.
Now in the CPU FSB Frequency spot, you can key in whatever HTT speed you'd like.
I'd recommend very slowly increasing this, & saving bios settings, restarting into Windows, testing for stability, & repeating.
200 to 205 then to 210, or even smaller increments, etc. Don't do anything crazy like jump to 240 till you know what the CPU is capable of.
Under DDR Vcore you can adjust the voltage for the RAM.
Leave it at auto or set to manufacturer's suggested setting.
Now set FID/VID Change to Manual.
Processor Frequency Multiplier is your CPU multi.
On an X2 4800+, this is 12. The multi can be lowered, but not raised unless you have an FX series CPU.
Leave it at your CPU's normal multi.
Now under Processor Voltage, you have CPU vcore.
Be very careful here; this can damage your CPU if not properly set.
You can leave this auto for light OCing, but i'd suggest setting it manually mainly for one reason.

On the A8N32-SLI Deluxe, the greatly hyped 8-phase power it features doesn't actually kick in until you utilize Over-Voltage CPU Vcore.
Over-Voltage CPU Vcore is roughly an additional 200mV, which means you can set the normal CPU Vcore to a lower amount & utilize the Overvoltage CPU Vcore to get the same vcore as just using the normal CPU Vcore by itself, with the benefit of 8-phase power (explained more here)

You can see in the picture earlier it's set for 1.275V + over voltage (0.2V), which = 1.475V
I'd suggest setting it to 1.2V + over voltage enabled, which will give you 1.4V, same as stock settings.
You usually safely can raise it up to around a total ~ 1.45-1.50V later if needed for heavier OCing as long as temps keep in check, but don't worry about that for light OCing.

Leave the other over voltage settings as default (disabled).

There, now you've OCed the CPU & possibly adjusted RAM/CPU vcore.


One big warning about the Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe:
This mobo has a well known "warmboot" issue.
Simply put, when heavily OCing, you may notice the PC will sit at a black screen after a restart or after saving settings in bios.

If this happens, turn off power, & then turn on power.
So basically, don't restart. Rather, shut down & turn on instead.

Also, if for some reason the overclocked settings are rejected by your system & turning off & then on doesn't fix things, you can always reset the CMOS, which will set

everything in the bios back to defaults & allow you to get the system running again.
The jumper for this is under the bottom PCI-e 16x slot; refer to manual or Asus's website if you don't know this procedure.


Now, good luck, & have fun :D

I hope to see screenies with overclocked settings, etc. later; keep us posted :)
 

Amaroque

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Interesting, I've never seen the "warm boot" issue on this board. I had major boot problems with the K8N Neo2 though, and to a lesser extent, the A8N-E.

Very nice guide. :thumbsup: Too bad you can't put it in the OP for any n00bs to this board though.
 

DrZDO

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I had the warm boot issue a hundred times, all right after OCing. It could happen at settings which had worked before as well. Kind of a try, try again thing. Once it's set up and boots properly, you're fine until you change something afaik.
 

DrZDO

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Originally posted by: n7I hope to see screenies with overclocked settings, etc. later; keep us posted :)
I'd like to try and boot this 3200 at 3GHz, but I'd rather not screw my current settings up. It would fail prime in a millisecond anyway.
 

DreamKaZz

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Some wierd booting problem im having, not critical but annoying.

My Setup:

A8N32-SLI
3800+ x2
2GB ram
2 X 80 HD Striping SATA1 et SATA2 (C: XP - D: Programs Files)
1 x 250 HD JBOD SATA3 (E: SWAP - F: DATA)

1 x 120 HD on USB (Z: BackUps)

BIOS set to boot only to the Striping

When my USB hard drive is powered and plugged-in, PC boots pass BIOS and Nvidia RAID POST but right before booting in XP I see (too quick to read) some DOS msg then I get a message that I've dont have a bootable device, remove and press to continue. (not the exact msg but I'm at work)

Only way to bypass this is to poweroff the USB drive.

Any way to fix this?

 
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Might be a stupid question, but are you guys still using fans even though it has the Quiet Cool Technology. Is it safer to have a fan as well, or is it that good that it doesnt need one. Thanks!
 

DrZDO

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Wouldn't you have to use a custom fan mount anyway? I have decent airflow through my case, and the mobo temp almost always reads between 40 and 42. I don't have a fan on it.
 

SLInterested

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whats the consensus on the best case..i hear a lot of cases (such as antec) render ur bottom pci slot useless..as u cant get to it....
im also looking to add a 2nd card inthe x16 so i need a lot of airflow..any suggestions>?!?!
 

biggestmuff

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Currently considering this board for a gaming rig. It looks to be more stable than the A8N-SLI.

What's the suggested Video card for this board? Any cards to avoid due to space? I haven't built a PC in over a year and the video cards have gotten fairly wide.

Will a Zalman 7700 CU fit in this board?

What's everyone been using for their RAM?
 

biggestmuff

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Originally posted by: SLInterested
whats the consensus on the best case..i hear a lot of cases (such as antec) render ur bottom pci slot useless..as u cant get to it....
im also looking to add a 2nd card inthe x16 so i need a lot of airflow..any suggestions>?!?!


Will a Sonata II work? What about the P180?
 

Ridesy

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Hi,

Don't know how many look at this loooong thread, but I'll try to answer some of your questions:

1. Video Card - anything SLI I would say, clearly anyone who can afford is now using 2 x 7900GT or GTX, but 2 x 7900GTX would need huge widescreen TFT to even touch the limits. My 2 x 7800GTX hit 9,450 3DMark06 and run a 23" Sony Widescreen at 1900 x 1200 AA/AF maxed.

2. Space is an issue if you want XFi etc, as all the new 7800 & 7900 cards take two slots each and there is no room for anything else, or you really ah heck airflow! Some have squeezed an XFi between, but heat is an issue on this MB anyway and this only makes it worse (hence I went watercool).

3. CU770 fits fine except, a) you have to remove pre-fitted Asus backplate behind CPU and fit Zalman one and, b) won't fit over Corsair PRO memory in A1 Slot as heatsink with LED's is too high.
As a side note the 9500 Zalman fits straight onto the Asus backplate and has no issues with PRO RAM in slot A1.

4. RAM - I use 3500LLPRO as was recommended by ASUS/Corsair - works great up to DDR500 and even DDR510, but depends really on your desire to overclock, budget and any personal preference between the usual Corsair/OCZ etc manufacturers.
The boards will generally run FSB upto 310-320 (mine is OK to 320), so I am afraid the choice is huge as you can run from DDR400 - DDR600+ and the best configuration will depend on your CPU and overclock.

5. Cases - the bigger the better IMHO, as with SLI it needs lots of airflow. Only advice on aircool is to go for a case with 2 x 120mm intake and 2 x 120mm exhaust, plus lots of room for airflow. Other than that an exhaust fan on side of case over the SLI cards is a real help on temps, so something like the new CM830 Stacker is ideal, but expensive!

Personally love the board, great overclock ability in BIOS, but it seems to run hot and the onboard sound is crticised by those audiophiles who care. I personally have no other PCI cards, but with watercool blocks on both graphics cards I could slip an XFi card in should I wish to have excellent sound to go with gaming performance.

Hope this long diatribe helps.

Ridesy