Titans vs. Chargers

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KLin

Lifer
Feb 29, 2000
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If I was LT, I'd be pissed. He can't get a yard for the first? :roll:
 

wyvrn

Lifer
Feb 15, 2000
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Well, they need to go for points. It sucks they are so close, but they need to have confidence they can put some points on the board when they need to.

edit: Announcers agreed also
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: wyvrn
That is an unfortunate injury. The guy was down and the Titan just dove headfirst into him. All he had to do was touch the guy. They should make a penalty for players on the ground that cannot go anywhere being speared. Replays show helmet to helmet.

He was trying to get up. This is the NFL not some touch football game.

Uh-huh. There are tons of rules protecting players in these situations.

Yet, you're the only one complaining about it. You think the commentators would have made a single comment about it if it wasn't a clean hit. Yes, the Titans should have slowed down to touch him, giving him an extra second to get off his knees and then he'd rumbled right pass them.

Well I may be, and in the future this may be addressed. Rules change all the time. I respect your opinion, but not your approach. I'll ignore you from now on.

If he was down and not trying to get up, it would be one thing BUT he was trying to get up.

If you don't like my approach, that's funny. Your comment in the Giants/Pats thread were much worse.
 

wyvrn

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Feb 15, 2000
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One of the reasons Tennessee will have problem scoring points is there KR game. Henry isn't that good, and Young is not a great passer. They may only score FGs the rest of the game.

edit: where is the SD pass rush in this game?
 

wyvrn

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Feb 15, 2000
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That play right there! Henry had been stopped on a run by several chargers, and the refs just blew the whistle. Perfect example of what I was talking about.

[sarcasm] but he was trying to move forward! They should let him get tackled, even if he gets injured[/sarcasm]
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: wyvrn
That play right there! Henry had been stopped on a run by several chargers, and the refs just blew the whistle. Perfect example of what I was talking about.

[sarcasm] but he was trying to move forward! They should let him get tackled, even if he gets injured[/sarcasm]

errr the play was blown dead because his forward momentum was stoped. there was no way he was going to earn more yardage.

the one you are having a hissy fit over the guy could have got up and ran.


 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: mooglemania85
ooohh 4th + 1

and they opt for 3

It was the correct call. It would be STUPID to go for a TD/1st down. There was 10 minutes left in the 3rd quarter. Still 25 minutes of football.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: mooglemania85
ooohh 4th + 1

and they opt for 3

It was the correct call. It would be STUPID to go for a TD/1st down. There was 10 minutes left in the 3rd quarter. Still 25 minutes of football.

yeap. get the 3 points on the board.

 

wyvrn

Lifer
Feb 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: wyvrn
That play right there! Henry had been stopped on a run by several chargers, and the refs just blew the whistle. Perfect example of what I was talking about.

[sarcasm] but he was trying to move forward! They should let him get tackled, even if he gets injured[/sarcasm]

errr the play was blown dead because his forward momentum was stoped. there was no way he was going to earn more yardage.

the one you are having a hissy fit over the guy could have got up and ran.

Hissy fit? Nah, just discussing football.

The Gates play was almost identical. In fact, he might have had less chance of making a play than Henry would have on the run. Henry was on his feet, and could have somehow miraculously spun out of it Barry Sanders style and made a play. In contrast, Gates was on the ground, and several Titans players were within a couple of yards with full running momentum. I am not a physicist, but it seems to me it would have been an impossibility for Gates to get up and run in that time frame. You saw the play, he didn't even get to his knees. Therefore, any contact would have caused him to be down by rule. I am not saying they shouldn't tackle him, but the DE speared him helmet to helmet when he was in a helpless position. And consequently, he was injured. What is the use of sustaining injury where there is close to zero percent chance of a player making a play? Just blow the whistle and move on.

Now I had a nice argument typed out, and the best you can come back with, I bet, is a non-analysis and a snazzy one liner !
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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hahah idiot. at least he flattened rivers LOL


but now SD are in field goal range.
 

mooglemania85

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May 3, 2007
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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: mooglemania85
ooohh 4th + 1

and they opt for 3

It was the correct call. It would be STUPID to go for a TD/1st down. There was 10 minutes left in the 3rd quarter. Still 25 minutes of football.

yeap. get the 3 points on the board.

Thanks for stating the obvious.
 

wyvrn

Lifer
Feb 15, 2000
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TD SAN DIEGO!

The halftime announcers said Rivers couldn't do it. Well, they were wrong.
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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Touchdown San Diego...it's about time...

That PF penalty set that one up for them
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: wyvrn
That play right there! Henry had been stopped on a run by several chargers, and the refs just blew the whistle. Perfect example of what I was talking about.

[sarcasm] but he was trying to move forward! They should let him get tackled, even if he gets injured[/sarcasm]

errr the play was blown dead because his forward momentum was stoped. there was no way he was going to earn more yardage.

the one you are having a hissy fit over the guy could have got up and ran.

Hissy fit? Nah, just discussing football.

The Gates play was almost identical. In fact, he might have had less chance of making a play than Henry would have on the run. Henry was on his feet, and could have somehow miraculously spun out of it Barry Sanders style and made a play. In contrast, Gates was on the ground, and several Titans players were within a couple of yards with full running momentum. I am not a physicist, but it seems to me it would have been an impossibility for Gates to get up and run in that time frame. You saw the play, he didn't even get to his knees. Therefore, any contact would have caused him to be down by rule. I am not saying they shouldn't tackle him, but the DE speared him helmet to helmet when he was in a helpless position. And consequently, he was injured. What is the use of sustaining injury where there is close to zero percent chance of a player making a play? Just blow the whistle and move on.

Now I had a nice argument typed out, and the best you can come back with, I bet, is a non-analysis and a snazzy one liner !

they are not identical. thats the part you are not understanding. one the guys foreword mementom is stoped. the rules say to blow it dead.

When a guy is down on teh ground without being tackled foreword momentom is still possible. In the play not only did he get to his knees he was nearly to his feet (really watch it again). the Defenders were right to hit him. sure they could have just touched him but they DO NOT HAVE TO. Also if they hit him hard enough to jar the ball loose it can be called a fumble.


 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: mooglemania85
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: mooglemania85
ooohh 4th + 1

and they opt for 3

It was the correct call. It would be STUPID to go for a TD/1st down. There was 10 minutes left in the 3rd quarter. Still 25 minutes of football.

yeap. get the 3 points on the board.

Thanks for stating the obvious.


sure no problem. i understand some poeple have a hard time getting it. glad to point it out for you.
 

mooglemania85

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May 3, 2007
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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: mooglemania85
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: mooglemania85
ooohh 4th + 1

and they opt for 3

It was the correct call. It would be STUPID to go for a TD/1st down. There was 10 minutes left in the 3rd quarter. Still 25 minutes of football.

yeap. get the 3 points on the board.

Thanks for stating the obvious.


sure no problem. i understand some poeple have a hard time getting it. glad to point it out for you.

;)
 

wyvrn

Lifer
Feb 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: wyvrn
That play right there! Henry had been stopped on a run by several chargers, and the refs just blew the whistle. Perfect example of what I was talking about.

[sarcasm] but he was trying to move forward! They should let him get tackled, even if he gets injured[/sarcasm]

errr the play was blown dead because his forward momentum was stoped. there was no way he was going to earn more yardage.

the one you are having a hissy fit over the guy could have got up and ran.

Hissy fit? Nah, just discussing football.

The Gates play was almost identical. In fact, he might have had less chance of making a play than Henry would have on the run. Henry was on his feet, and could have somehow miraculously spun out of it Barry Sanders style and made a play. In contrast, Gates was on the ground, and several Titans players were within a couple of yards with full running momentum. I am not a physicist, but it seems to me it would have been an impossibility for Gates to get up and run in that time frame. You saw the play, he didn't even get to his knees. Therefore, any contact would have caused him to be down by rule. I am not saying they shouldn't tackle him, but the DE speared him helmet to helmet when he was in a helpless position. And consequently, he was injured. What is the use of sustaining injury where there is close to zero percent chance of a player making a play? Just blow the whistle and move on.

Now I had a nice argument typed out, and the best you can come back with, I bet, is a non-analysis and a snazzy one liner !

they are not identical. thats the part you are not understanding. one the guys foreword mementom is stoped. the rules say to blow it dead.

When a guy is down on teh ground without being tackled foreword momentom is still possible. In the play not only did he get to his knees he was nearly to his feet (really watch it again). the Defenders were right to hit him. sure they could have just touched him but they DO NOT HAVE TO. Also if they hit him hard enough to jar the ball loose it can be called a fumble.


Ok I am sorry, but you lost credibility. I really wanted to have a good discussion on this. I watched the replay several times, and Gates never got to his knees. I am SURE of that, which is the main reason I wanted to discuss the play afterwards. If the Titan DE had simply put his pinky on him, he would have been down by contact because his knees and elbows where still on the ground. I suggest you go watch the play again, sir.