Titan Z announced - where are the reviews?

[moonbogg]

It's around $4K over here

Not bad. ITS JUST MONEY.

 

[Kenmitch]

Dang a new record for the highest priced card in the consumer market.

Yours for only $3349

http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=12G-P4-3999-KR

Imagine the monster rig you could build for less than the cost of the single card. Doesn't matter if you go green or red you could have a complete rig with more powerful gpu's.

 

[Makaveli]

Yours for only $3349

lol when your gpu cost as much as a small used car I think its time to step outside and take a break from the computer and possibly get your head checked.

 

[piesquared]

Anyone remember nvidia trolling AMD, buying and seeding 290X's to techreport? Sounds like a good time for AMD to return the favor. I'd like to see what NV is trying to hide... Probably actual power consumption, temperature, stutter, noise, scaling, and the price/perf. By not seeding to reviewers, they have a chance to keep the perception of a halo product. Which it obviously isn't.
The only problem is AMD will likely lose money on the resale, while nv would have made money on the resale of the 290X's.

 

[tviceman]

Thanks for the link! The 295x2 beats the Tz in every game except for Bioshock (even then it's a 1 FPS delta). I can't imagine anyone paying $3k for a GPU to play at 1400p, let alone 1080p unless you are a professional tourney gamer on a 120hz monitor. Even then, why pay $3k when you can spend half for better performance?

Titan Z? More like Titan zzzzzz.....

I'm actually surprised the 295x doesn't pull ahead further with CFX usually better scaling and full-on clock speeds.

Either card is a ripoff, but anyone buying a Titan Z needs to have their e-peen ego checked for cancer.

 

[Techhog]

I'm actually surprised the 295x doesn't pull ahead further with CFX usually better scaling and full-on clock speeds.

Either card is a ripoff, but anyone buying a Titan Z needs to have their e-peen ego checked for cancer.

Yeah. If anything, I'm more disappointed by how pathetically the 295X2 performs for a liquid-cooled card compared to the ridiculously low clocks of the Titan Z. An AIO Titan Z would completely wreck the 295X2 from a pure performance standpoint. Even with air cooling, the Titan Z seems to overclock fairly well while the 295X2 is badly hindered by its power and heat limits.

Still, there's really no reason to buy the Titan Z either way.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Yeah. If anything, I'm more disappointed by how pathetically the 295X2 performs for a liquid-cooled card compared to the ridiculously low clocks of the Titan Z. An AIO Titan Z would completely wreck the 295X2 from a pure performance standpoint. Even with air cooling, the Titan Z seems to overclock fairly well while the 295X2 is badly hindered by its power and heat limits.

Still, there's really no reason to buy the Titan Z either way.

Interesting perspective... To each their own. Both are too much money for me anyway, especially when getting two cards that will perform as well is easily cheaper than either of these dual GPU cards (especially the Titan Z).

 

[caswow]

Yeah. If anything, I'm more disappointed by how pathetically the 295X2 performs for a liquid-cooled card compared to the ridiculously low clocks of the Titan Z. An AIO Titan Z would completely wreck the 295X2 from a pure performance standpoint. Even with air cooling, the Titan Z seems to overclock fairly well while the 295X2 is badly hindered by its power and heat limits.

Still, there's really no reason to buy the Titan Z either way.

There are no power consumption tests of the titan z afaik. the known results are made with a titan z while having fan speed at 100% and + 20% pt.

 

[3DVagabond]

Yeah. If anything, I'm more disappointed by how pathetically the 295X2 performs for a liquid-cooled card compared to the ridiculously low clocks of the Titan Z. An AIO Titan Z would completely wreck the 295X2 from a pure performance standpoint. Even with air cooling, the Titan Z seems to overclock fairly well while the 295X2 is badly hindered by its power and heat limits.

Still, there's really no reason to buy the Titan Z either way.

Think about it. There is no way a Titan-z would out perform a 295x2 at the advertised clocks. The advertised clocks are what that card is going to run at (nVidia promotes their rated clocks as an expected avg. performance) in real world conditions. What we are reading are performance graphs with a 1 minute, or so, canned bench. It's not unusual for nVidia's boost to boost much higher in that situation.

If you were to put a Titan-z inside a case, run it for an hour or so, then compare it to a 295x2 in the same circumstances, the 295x2 will kill it. I'm really hoping [H] gets a hold of one so we can see it in exactly that situation and find out for certain.

 

[Techhog]

Think about it. There is no way a Titan-z would out perform a 295x2 at the advertised clocks. The advertised clocks are what that card is going to run at (nVidia promotes their rated clocks as an expected avg. performance) in real world conditions. What we are reading are performance graphs with a 1 minute, or so, canned bench. It's not unusual for nVidia's boost to boost much higher in that situation.

If you were to put a Titan-z inside a case, run it for an hour or so, then compare it to a 295x2 in the same circumstances, the 295x2 will kill it. I'm really hoping [H] gets a hold of one so we can see it in exactly that situation and find out for certain.

I suppose we'll have to wait and see.

 

[Stuka87]

Yeah. If anything, I'm more disappointed by how pathetically the 295X2 performs for a liquid-cooled card compared to the ridiculously low clocks of the Titan Z. An AIO Titan Z would completely wreck the 295X2 from a pure performance standpoint. Even with air cooling, the Titan Z seems to overclock fairly well while the 295X2 is badly hindered by its power and heat limits.

Still, there's really no reason to buy the Titan Z either way.

Where are you seeing that the Titan Z over clocks well, and is able to sustain those clocks for an extended period?

 

[wand3r3r]

Titan-z is holding the bar for the worse gpu launch in the past few years.

I thought the lackluster 290x reference cooler was bad, but this takes the cake by far.

What a joke card, joke price, failed launch. I hope NV learns from this but they'll probably just keep raising prices regardless. They got burned by bringing it out in apple-like manner, this is "our" best card yet (obviously!) and then it's slower then a supposed furnace competitor at half the price.

 

[Baasha]

Damn.. that looks good. I still say my 4x GTX-Titan Black SCs will demolish Quad SLI GTX-Titan Z Hydro or not.

 

[lehtv]

lol when your gpu cost as much as a small used car I think its time to step outside and take a break from the computer and possibly get your head checked.

You're joking, right? Anyone rich enough to afford this the same way average gamers afford $200 graphics cards should not get their head checked. Those who buy these probably also drive $50k-100k cars, not used $15k cars. When $3k doesn't even make much of a dent in your monthly paycheck, why not go for it?

 

[Makaveli]

You're joking, right? Anyone rich enough to afford this the same way average gamers afford $200 graphics cards should not get their head checked. Those who buy these probably also drive $50k-100k cars, not used $15k cars.

Yes I was joking.

 

[ultimatebob]

Heh, it looks like NVidia didn't even bother sending review cards out to the technology sites. I guess that they knew that the reviews were all going to say basically the same thing...

"Nice card, but it costs about $1800 too much! What in the hell was NVidia thinking?!?"

Amusingly, the card is so damn expensive that many of the smaller review sites probably can't even afford to buy one for reviewing purposes

 

[Rakehellion]

Supercars are highly visible status symbols, and remain so for years to come. Graphics cards sit inside a case under your desk and go out of date within a couple of years.

A supercar just sits in your garage collecting dust. This does work.

 

[Rakehellion]

Get back on topic.
-- stahlhart

Don't you know that everything related to computer technology has a corresponding car analogy?

 

[Rakehellion]

This card is aimed at the tiny, tiny segment of the market who needs a card that does exactly this and can afford it. You could say it's in between a Geforce and a Quadro, but I think it's even more specialized than a Quadro.

Lol @ the video.
So much for people here claiming its not a "Gaming Card".

The guy in the Video didn't say "CUDA" even once.

I am going to respond with this video whenever some Nvidia fanboy says TitanZ is for Compute.

Gaming is still 99% of Nvidia's revenue. If you make a press release talking about scientific calculations, even the nerds will be bored to sleep. Tell me the last time you saw an Nvidia employee raving about what they can do for CAD software.

 

[dn7309]

A supercar just sits in your garage collecting dust. This does work.

There is a reason why Jay Leno have garage full of super cars and not Titan Z

 

[TrulyUncouth]

This card is aimed at the tiny, tiny segment of the market who needs a card that does exactly this and can afford it. You could say it's in between a Geforce and a Quadro, but I think it's even more specialized than a Quadro.



Gaming is still 99% of Nvidia's revenue. If you make a press release talking about scientific calculations, even the nerds will be bored to sleep. Tell me the last time you saw an Nvidia employee raving about what they can do for CAD software.

I remember a bunch of slides on reddit about them being super computers and having more cores than google's "Brain" I think they called it. I believe if they intended it for a compute card they would have simply presented it that way.

I thought everyone pretty much agreed they thought it would be a new highest-end halo gaming card that got pre-empted by the better 295x and Nvidia was left trying to find a spot for it.

 

[Rakehellion]

There is a reason why Jay Leno have garage full of super cars and not Titan Z

There's a reason why Google has racks of CPU cores and not supercars.

 

[dn7309]

There's a reason why Google has racks of CPU cores and not supercars.

So Jay Leno got a garage full of super cars, Google got servers full of CPU who got a where house full of Titan Z? Newegg?

 

[DominionSeraph]

 

[RussianSensation]

Gaming is still 99% of Nvidia's revenue.

That's not true already in 2014. The projection is that most of NV's revenue growth will come from non-PC gaming sectors in the next 5 years.
http://www.trefis.com/company?hm=NVDA.trefis&from=search#

If you make a press release talking about scientific calculations, even the nerds will be bored to sleep. Tell me the last time you saw an Nvidia employee raving about what they can do for CAD software.

NV promotes Tesla and Quadro to professionals. There is nothing unusual about them discussing GFLOPs or DP calculation / CUDA capabilities for specific industries/domains from weather and climate, to machine learning to data science and computations finance:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/gpu-applications-domain.html

NV took a gamble and marketed this card both as a computing product and the world's best gaming card for 4-5K but this was before they knew that 295X2 would be at least as good for 1/2 the price. Had NV only marketed Titan Z as a compute card to professionals, similar to Quadro and Tesla lines, people wouldn't be discussing it as a gaming card.

I predict that 90%+ of Titan Z customers will rarely, if ever, play games on it.

If you look at Titan Black cards on EVGA, they are all sold out. However, what PC gamer would buy a $1K Titan Black for games over the EVGA Classified 780Ti or EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti Classified K|NGP|N Edition? They would not.

Titan Z is primarily a compute card that happens to play games well. However, strictly for a gamer, it would not even be in the top 5 of their choice. $3K for a gaming card that cannot beat 780Ti SLI or 295X2 is absurd.

Yours?

Obviously if money is no object, someone could put 2 Titan Z's in their PC, but for gaming 4 Titan Blacks would beat it. If someone has a very small case, since Titan Z is a triple slot, again 2 Titan Blacks would beat it for $1K less. A rational decision to buy Titan Z is for someone who is primarily using it for something other than games, and just happens to play games on the side. Even then, 2, 3, 4 Titan Blacks are superior so in that case the person would have to buy at least 3 Titan Z's to justify it over the Titan Blacks.