Because it is the fastest single GPU card.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6973/nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-review
Full review. Not sure what you're trying to prove with a single cherry picked chart, but you aren't fooling anyone, except for perhaps yourself.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6973/nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-review
Full review. Not sure what you're trying to prove with a single cherry picked chart, but you aren't fooling anyone, except for perhaps yourself.
Show me a pre-overclocked Titan that is faster then this card, I couldn't find one, the only pre-overclocked Titan I found costs 1150$ and performs the same. Also there were no pre-overclocked Titans when Titan launched. My titan eventually crashes with any offset so it's faster then my Oced Titan for sure. OC shouldn't be taken into consideration when comparing stock cards out of the box.
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Pre-overclocked?
Really...now you are just trolling.
Read up on what the Titan SKU is and isn't
It's a sad state when users buying a $1000 card, cannot read the manual...or do an OC themselfes.
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There aren't any and I believe every reviewer cleared that doubt in their review.You tell me can't you oc a titan?
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I looked your edit, that is a pre oc card not a stock one.
And what is that? http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_Titan_Amp_Edition/26.html
No point answering your posts.
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You are comparing stock vs OC....now I know you are trolling...ignore list it is.
yeah right, this card DOES NOT EXIST
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_Titan_Amp_Edition/26.html
Signal to noise ratio reaching critical threshold.
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Yay, more efficient forum reading.
People need to out themselves in threads like these more often.
Ontopic: 7 pages of waffling.
@ OP, you specifically said you will be keeping it. You also said you got it for cheaper than MSRP at launch. I don't see the problem.
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People need to out themselves in threads like these more often.
Ontopic: 7 pages of waffling.
@ OP, you specifically said you will be keeping it. You also said you got it for cheaper than MSRP at launch. I don't see the problem.
Can you read? I compared a pre-overclocked 780 to a pre-overclocked Titan. Good, I hate talking with people that have reading comprehension problems.
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I agree, it's got no purpose for gamers because 2x cheaper 780SC performs the same. Some people don't OC ever and some of those people want the fastest card there is. On top of that OC is always a gamble. My titan eventually crashes with any OC, it can work fine with +130MHz Offset only to crash in two hours. Some people who need a reliable card to do some compute that needs FP64 might buy it, it's still a bargain compared to K20X and K20.
Because it is the fastest single GPU card.
[quote][url]http://www.anandtech.com/show/6973/n...gtx-780-review[/url]
Full review. Not sure what you're trying to prove with a single cherry picked chart, but you aren't fooling anyone, except for perhaps yourself.[/quote]Comparing the fastest Titan to the fastest 780 across a wide variety of games is a cherry picked chart, good one. Maybe not everyone saw my edit because I originally hit sent button too early by accident so here it is
[quote="Lepton87, post: 35069320"]Titan that was released two months ago isn't even the fastest card, I don't get why people keep repeating this misinformation over and over again, it won't make it true. There were no custom Titans, I wonder how EVGA would treat a request in their step-up program if someone wanted to exchange his Titan to 780SC, would they actually give the price difference back?
[img]http://tpucdn.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_780_SC_ACX_Cooler/images/perfrel_2560.gif
And not even an oced Titan is faster then 780SC for an absurd 1150$
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_Titan_Amp_Edition/26.html
Those cards are dead even.
95 and 94 is within margin of error, 7970GHz and 680 are both at 69% and 71% of their performance.[/QUOTE]
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Wrong!
Pro cards don't cost a fortune because it is alien technology (which it isn't). But having a discusion with Lonbjerk is improssible.
Yes it is, good that I'm on his ignore list. He lacks reading comprehension, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who said that to him. He's been on my ignore list for a long time, but when he posted in my thread I read and answered his posts regardless. That was a mistake.
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If your Titan crashes with a +130 offset, its probably because you're a noob and don't know wtf you're doing.
LOL, people are getting more ridiculous in this topic. Yes I'm a noob because I got a bad sample of Titan. What an idiotic statement to make. This forum is an NV fanboys infested lair.
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Not to start a NV vs AMD fan war but IIRC people got ridiculed when they pointed out 1300 Mhz isn't common for 7970 Ghz edition.That is why I only care about out of the box performance, oc shouldn't be taken into account.
And now people who get cards that don't overclock well are noobs
It's luck of the draw. That's why I compared the fastest Titan out of the box with the fastest 780 out of the box I knew of and it turned out they are dead even.I feel that the perception of $1000 is different between those in Poland and, let's say, those in USA. When the review of Titan appeared, many thought that Titan shines in 2xSLI. I feel that many in USA bought two Titans rather than one. $2000 is a big money even in USA but not as big as $1224x2=$2448 in Poland. I think that many living in USA or some other western European countries are hard to understand the sentiment of the OP.
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The OP is from PL?
That explains a lot (thinking of how PL people act in WoT).
But it still dosn'r mean that OP is right.
The OP made mistakes.
The OP now tries and blame everyone and thier cat (but mostly NVIDIA) for his mistakes.
Even though more informed TiTan owner have pointed out this fact...the OP continues.
(And know you know a little about why I voted NO too the EU-treaties *looks at the OP*)
That explains a lot (thinking of how PL people act in WoT).
But it still dosn'r mean that OP is right.
The OP made mistakes.
The OP now tries and blame everyone and thier cat (but mostly NVIDIA) for his mistakes.
Even though more informed TiTan owner have pointed out this fact...the OP continues.
(And know you know a little about why I voted NO too the EU-treaties *looks at the OP*)
This message is hidden because Lonbjerg is on your ignore list.
Funny how I don't even have to read it to know what he wrote. I blame everyone and other BS, even though in the OP I said the blame is on me, I knew how NV acts very well and I should have known better, but I can still criticize how they handled this generation. If you can't understand written English maybe you should write on a forum in your native language? Mid-range card selling as a high-end, releasing a high-end card and suggesting that it may be the only consumer GK110 card to be ever released, then 2 months later releasing a card that performs the same for 60% of its price. Now if they released a full GK110 with 2880 shaders for 750$ I have no doubt that people would still condone their release cadence. They didn't name Titan a GTX785 because it would be clear that a lesser GK110 card is coming, so they created an illusion that this card is something special. They used people's desire to get a true next-generation performance in a single card because GTX680 was such an underwhelming card. 8 pages and only a few people actually answered the question I asked.
Funny how I don't even have to read it to know what he wrote. I blame everyone and other BS, even though in the OP I said the blame is on me, I knew how NV acts very well and I should have known better, but I can still criticize how they handled this generation. If you can't understand written English maybe you should write on a forum in your native language? Mid-range card selling as a high-end, releasing a high-end card and suggesting that it may be the only consumer GK110 card to be ever released, then 2 months later releasing a card that performs the same for 60% of its price. Now if they released a full GK110 with 2880 shaders for 750$ I have no doubt that people would still condone their release cadence. They didn't name Titan a GTX785 because it would be clear that a lesser GK110 card is coming, so they created an illusion that this card is something special. They used people's desire to get a true next-generation performance in a single card because GTX680 was such an underwhelming card. 8 pages and only a few people actually answered the question I asked.
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Is this thread for real?
Comparing factory overclocked boost 2.0 to reference, which is also on the chart for both Titan and the 780 clearly show reference vs reference Titan is faster...
So you're criticizing Nvidia for slotting in their mid-range card against AMD's high end card, despite similar performance? That's a whole different topic!
Do you have a link where Nvidia suggested Titan would be the only GK110 chip released?
Reference GTX 780 is like 10% slower, isn't it? Or are you comparing the factory overclocked aftermarket cooled 780 to the stock Titan again?
They wouldn't release a 2880 shader GK110, it doesn't have the ROP to Shader ratio needed to make it work, which is why even the GTX 780 looks so good against Titan. From a gaming perspective the GTX 780 is a more well balanced card. Whereas Titan is shader heavy with 1/3 DP because it's not just a gaming card, it's a HPC card as well.
Sounds like you're delusional, the performance gap between GK104 and GK110 is simply too high and it had been nearly a year since GK104 came out... Where do you think Nvidia was going to get the chips to refresh their top end product stack, GK104? This is Jen-Hsun Huang we're talking about here, he probably hated GK104 as x80 even if it competed that isn't what he's about.
The GTX 680 was an underwhelming flagship, it competed against AMD's flagship card watt for watt and was well below 200w while being noticeably faster than the last gen 240w flagship. Nvidia could have called it the GTX 660 Ti and sold it for $500, or $250, or something else, who knows... The only thing we know for sure is they were competitive with their mid-range gpu in the flagship slot and gained market share with it.
I'd really like to see your evidence that Nvidia insinuated that Titan would be the only GK110 gpu on the market before going to 20nm.
Comparing factory overclocked boost 2.0 to reference, which is also on the chart for both Titan and the 780 clearly show reference vs reference Titan is faster...
So you're criticizing Nvidia for slotting in their mid-range card against AMD's high end card, despite similar performance? That's a whole different topic!
Do you have a link where Nvidia suggested Titan would be the only GK110 chip released?
Reference GTX 780 is like 10% slower, isn't it? Or are you comparing the factory overclocked aftermarket cooled 780 to the stock Titan again?
They wouldn't release a 2880 shader GK110, it doesn't have the ROP to Shader ratio needed to make it work, which is why even the GTX 780 looks so good against Titan. From a gaming perspective the GTX 780 is a more well balanced card. Whereas Titan is shader heavy with 1/3 DP because it's not just a gaming card, it's a HPC card as well.
Sounds like you're delusional, the performance gap between GK104 and GK110 is simply too high and it had been nearly a year since GK104 came out... Where do you think Nvidia was going to get the chips to refresh their top end product stack, GK104? This is Jen-Hsun Huang we're talking about here, he probably hated GK104 as x80 even if it competed that isn't what he's about.
The GTX 680 was an underwhelming flagship, it competed against AMD's flagship card watt for watt and was well below 200w while being noticeably faster than the last gen 240w flagship. Nvidia could have called it the GTX 660 Ti and sold it for $500, or $250, or something else, who knows... The only thing we know for sure is they were competitive with their mid-range gpu in the flagship slot and gained market share with it.
I'd really like to see your evidence that Nvidia insinuated that Titan would be the only GK110 gpu on the market before going to 20nm.
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