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betasub

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Nice memory, although not the obvious choice for an LGA1366 build. You might consider an exchange for one of the triple-channel kits on the ASUS approved list.

I also had problems with getting MemOK to provide BIOS with suitable settings for my RAM on an ASUS LGA1156 board. Despite the LEDs indicating a memory issue (even with a single stick), I was actually able to resolve it by booting with a different graphics card. Not sure why a PCIe slot/video problem was diagnosed by the mobo as a RAM issue tho....
 
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bigboym

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Could you recommend me some memorys for the build I just bought?

Using Intel I7 930 with ASUS Sabertooth X58 mobo.

I'd like to put 16GB but I could stick with 12GB as well.

These Coirsair RAMs arent working, the systsem won't boot up, so I would need some other rams.

Thankss
 
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mfenn

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bigboym said:
Could you recommend me some memorys for the build I just bought?

Using Intel I7 930 with ASUS Sabertooth X58 mobo.

I'd like to put 16GB but I could stick with 12GB as well.

These Coirsair RAMs arent working, the systsem won't boot up, so I would need some other rams.

Thankss
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It could be that you've got the memory in the wrong slots. A dual-channel config on 1366 requires you to put the DIMMs in certain slots, or it will not work. Consult your mobo manual.
 
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bigboym

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Sadly, no, the CMX8GX3M4A1333C9 is incompatible with the i7 system. As I understood the system supports tripple channel memorys, whereas this one functions in dual channel mode, because it is a 4x2GB Dual Channel kit.

So, could you guys please recommend me at least 12GB amount of ram for my i7 930 system? One that 100% will work..or at least 99% . :) I will be buying them from http://www.scan.co.uk .

Thank you
 
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steve wilson

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Can I suggest you get one of the new ATI cards 6850/6870 over the 5770 suggested, I think the little extra will go a long way in performance.
 
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FishAk

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Two more sticks of the memory you have would make it run in tri-channel. (6 X 2Gb)

From the choices on your link, if I could only get those, I would chose this 12Gb 1.5v 1333 set.

As to whether or not it's guaranteed to work with your MB, you should check the MB approved vender list.
 
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bigboym

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dmoney1980 said:
I have the ASUS x58 Sbertooth mobo, and I purchased a set of Mushkin blackline RAM, it's model # 998677B

http://www.mushkin.com/Memory/Blackline/998677B.aspx
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This was really helpful, thank you!
I am so tempted to order these, and sell the ones I can't use... although I am not 100% sure that my motherboard isn't faulty. It would be a major blow if I'd order these Mushkins and then realize that my mobo is the reason the system doesn't boot.

Btw just realized that Mushkin doesn't ship to non-US adresses... :\
 
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dmoney1980

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bigboym said:
This was really helpful, thank you!
I am so tempted to order these, and sell the ones I can't use... although I am not 100% sure that my motherboard isn't faulty. It would be a major blow if I'd order these Mushkins and then realize that my mobo is the reason the system doesn't boot.

Btw just realized that Mushkin doesn't ship to non-US adresses... :\
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any online retailers you can order from ?
 
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bigboym

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FishAk said:
Yes, that should have worked. Did you try each module one at a time? Sorry, I haven't read the entire thread.
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Yes, I tried using 1 stick in A1, A2, A3, even the B's..nothing happened. I tried using 2, 3 , even the whole kit with the 4x 2GB sticks. Still, nothing happened. I don't think that theese memorys are capable of working in triple channel, just dual. Anyway, I contacted scan.co.uk and they said that the RAM's I ordered are "incorrect" for my system so it's pretty clear now.
Although I DO want to know what to buy when RMA replaces these with the ones I would like. Want to be sure this time.. :\

I wonder if these will work: http://www.memoryc.com/computermemory/ddr3ram/6gboczpc310666platinumtriplekitcl7.html
 
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FishAk

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The MB approved list has the F3-12800CL8T-6GBPI, and this memory is F3-12800CL7T-6GBPI. I don't know if that matters much. It probably would run at 8-8-8 anyway. I'm not a memory expert.
 
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mfenn

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bigboym said:
Sadly, no, the CMX8GX3M4A1333C9 is incompatible with the i7 system. As I understood the system supports tripple channel memorys, whereas this one functions in dual channel mode, because it is a 4x2GB Dual Channel kit.
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Not true. X58 supports up to triple channel memory. You can run in single or dual channel configuration, but you need to make sure that the memory is in the appropriate slots.

bigboym said:
Yes, I tried using 1 stick in A1, A2, A3, even the B's..nothing happened. I tried using 2, 3 , even the whole kit with the 4x 2GB sticks. Still, nothing happened. I don't think that theese memorys are capable of working in triple channel, just dual. Anyway, I contacted scan.co.uk and they said that the RAM's I ordered are "incorrect" for my system so it's pretty clear now.
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Also not true. There is no such thing as "dual-channel" or "triple-channel" memory. That is a function of the memory controller, not the memory itself. Dual/triple channel kits are simply multiple identical modules packages as one SKU.

Please refer to page 2-10 of your motherboard manual for the correct slots for any given memory configuration. If it still doesn't work you have either a defective motherboard/memory not an incompatible one.
 
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betasub said:
David, what's the technical reason why "the i7 9xx series is much better for 3D rendering and Raytracing than an 8xx"? Just trying to understand.
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Sorry it took me so long. The 1366 offers the triple channel Ram (of course) but really the 1366 simply benchmarks better on rendering and Raytracing. It is a repackaged (higher wattage) version of the Xeon Nehalem, which is "the creme of the crop" when it comes to server and workstation processors. You will likely see performance gains either way, but $100 on a $1000+ build is definitely worth spending the extra for a 9xx.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/107?vs=46

Now this benchmark may seem a bit close, but when rendering, it is per frame of animation, so where you might see a difference per frame of 2 seconds, that saves you 60 seconds for 30 frames (1 second of animation) or 3 minutes on a 3 second animation, 60 minutes on a 60 second animation, and so on.

Edit: I've had projects where I have had it take 2 hours for a single frame. Theoretically if you look at adding about 5% to that time (~ what the 9xx has over the 8xx) that is 10 minutes per frame, which adds up to about 4 hours for 30 frames which would be 8 hours for 60. So if you had a 10 second animation it would take you up to 40 hours extra to render with the 8xx instead of the 9xx. When rendering 3D, you also must consider you aren't able to use your computer for anything at a reasonable speed. Things like web browsing, or word processing take 20x longer because the renderer literally uses every bit of power your CPU has, and however much RAM you are willing to feed it. So No homework, or web browsing, or iTunes... nothing can be done during a render. So really, it's not so much a technical investment as it is an investment in saving you time. $100 is definitely worth an extra 40 hours of computer time every other week or so.
 
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bigboym

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mfenn said:
Not true. X58 supports up to triple channel memory. You can run in single or dual channel configuration, but you need to make sure that the memory is in the appropriate slots.



Also not true. There is no such thing as "dual-channel" or "triple-channel" memory. That is a function of the memory controller, not the memory itself. Dual/triple channel kits are simply multiple identical modules packages as one SKU.

Please refer to page 2-10 of your motherboard manual for the correct slots for any given memory configuration. If it still doesn't work you have either a defective motherboard/memory not an incompatible one.
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I did try everything the manual stated. I tried putting the memorys in almost every possible combination..but to no result. So, this might be a motherboard issue? Ive only sent the memorys back for RMA, the mobo is still with me..hmm...should I RMA that as well? :/
 
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mfenn

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bigboym said:
I did try everything the manual stated. I tried putting the memorys in almost every possible combination..but to no result. So, this might be a motherboard issue? Ive only sent the memorys back for RMA, the mobo is still with me..hmm...should I RMA that as well? :/
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The RAM could've very well been defective. Since you've already RMA'ed, I would wait to get your new RAM back before moving on to the mobo.
 
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bigboym

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I have just tried using different RAM, a tripple channel kit which is on the QVL list, but the same problem occurs. No boot, Memory LED keeps flashing, MemOK! function doesn`t work.

Well, I guess I`ll have to RMA the motherboard as well. Although I don`t want another Sabertooth, I`m going to switch to MSI maybe. Could you recommend a good, stable, high performance motherboard that's about at the same price range as the Sabertooth (doesn`t need to be an overclocker champion)? The mobo needs to have Sata 6Gb/s support!
I`m a bit afraid to go with another ASUS at this moment, but if you could recommend anything besides Gigabyte, I would really appriciate it.

Thank you!
 
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mfenn

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bigboym said:
I have just tried using different RAM, a tripple channel kit which is on the QVL list, but the same problem occurs. No boot, Memory LED keeps flashing, MemOK! function doesn`t work.

Well, I guess I`ll have to RMA the motherboard as well. Although I don`t want another Sabertooth, I`m going to switch to MSI maybe. Could you recommend a good, stable, high performance motherboard that's about at the same price range as the Sabertooth (doesn`t need to be an overclocker champion)? The mobo needs to have Sata 6Gb/s support!
I`m a bit afraid to go with another ASUS at this moment, but if you could recommend anything besides Gigabyte, I would really appriciate it.

Thank you!
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Why does it need SATA 6Gb/s support? There are simply no worthwhile SATA 6Gb/s chipsets available for the Intel platform at the moment.
 
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