Tipping...

[Syringer]

Originally posted by: archcommus
Our waiters and waitresses are nicer to us here because they have an incentive to make us happy (getting a good tip).

So suck it.

Absolutely. Having been overseas in non-tipping areas, the servers definitely aren't as friendly as they can be..though there are exceptions of course, but in general when you're not working toward a tip there is little incentive to be extra nice.

Plus, I never found a single restaurant (fast-food or sit down..except for Subway) that offered free refills for drinks. Even this buffet I went to only allowed you one refill on drinks, if you wanted more you paid.

 

[kami333]

Originally posted by: Syringer
Plus, I never found a single restaurant (fast-food or sit down..except for Subway) that offered free refills for drinks. Even this buffet I went to only allowed you one refill on drinks, if you wanted more you paid.

??? What does that have to do with tipping?

 

[mugs]

Better here than over in Europe (at least some places)... they have mandatory tips, basically a fee for sitting down. I had a pizza and a pepsi over in Italy that cost me 12000 lira, the mandatory tip was another 8000 lira. Worst pizza ever, the lady didn't even speak English! ( )

 

[miri]

Originally posted by: mugs
Better here than over in Europe (at least some places)... they have mandatory tips, basically a fee for sitting down. I had a pizza and a pepsi over in Italy that cost me 12000 lira, the mandatory tip was another 8000 lira.

In Italy they automatically put a tip on your check

in some countries though like Spain they dont

 

[kami333]

Originally posted by: mugs
Better here than over in Europe (at least some places)... they have mandatory tips, basically a fee for sitting down. I had a pizza and a pepsi over in Italy that cost me 12000 lira, the mandatory tip was another 8000 lira. Worst pizza ever, the lady didn't even speak English! ( )

I blame American tourists for that. A couple years ago in Prague they didn't charge a service fee, just for bread, and you just rounded up a bit for service. Now it's 10% service charge, and I even saw some people leaving a "tip" on top of that.

 

[SpanishFry]

Originally posted by: zendari
Tipping was fine when it was a reasonable amount, not this ridiculous 20% figure.

Sorry, if you want more than $10 an hour (and that's being generous), try a job where you need more skills and education than being a waiter.

no.

try dealing with drunk douchebags for several hours everynight on the clock and tell me how well a degree would help you out. Anyone could be a waiter/bartender, but few can do it well.

 

[WENEEDLIGHT]

Originally posted by: kmr1212

Originally posted by: tk109
I wish that's how it worked here too. I love when I go to a place and they tell you that they dont accept tips. That's how it should be. Just pay them a decent wage and drop the stupid tipping idea all together.

are you old, or just cheap?

Tipping's great. Not tipping is fine too. It lets me know who I need to serve (bartender), and who I can let stand there for 20 minutes.

YES. Applies to me as well.

 

[kami333]

Originally posted by: kmr1212

Originally posted by: zendari
Tipping was fine when it was a reasonable amount, not this ridiculous 20% figure.

Sorry, if you want more than $10 an hour (and that's being generous), try a job where you need more skills and education than being a waiter.

no.

try dealing with drunk douchebags for several hours everynight on the clock and tell me how well a degree would help you out. Anyone could be a waiter/bartender, but few can do it well.

Then why do it?

I hated doing tech support so I got out of it. Get a degree and get a different job where you don't have to deal with drunk douchebags. Oh wait, you make more money as a bartender, right:roll:

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: kmr1212

Originally posted by: zendari
Tipping was fine when it was a reasonable amount, not this ridiculous 20% figure.

Sorry, if you want more than $10 an hour (and that's being generous), try a job where you need more skills and education than being a waiter.

no.

try dealing with drunk douchebags for several hours everynight on the clock and tell me how well a degree would help you out. Anyone could be a waiter/bartender, but few can do it well.

A degree would help you out by enabling you to get a better job.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: dug777
At least there's none of this 'he/she's a crappy tipper' & 'omg how much do i tip the turtle walker/fence flosser' crap here tho, we pay the stated price for the service, everyone is very happy, and the world keeps on turning...

Doug,

Standard tipping for "sit down" meals is 15% on food. If there's liqour, the tipping (whether at the restaurant or bar) on that portion is 10%.

So, if you order a lot of drinks with a meal seperate it out.

Note that most states charge about 7% tax on meals at a restaurant. You DON'T pay a tip on top of the portion of the bill that is tax (i.e., no tip on tax).

Since the tax is often around 7% at restaurants, most people just find the tax amount on their dinner bill, double it and round up a wee bit.

Also be caureful! Some restaurants will automatically include the tip. So, read carefully so you don't pay twice.

If you find the service and food etc especially good (waitress hot, whatever) some will tip a higher amount.

If the service is crappy (wait is long & food is cold etc) some will tip less or none at all.

If you really, really want to offend the waiter/waitress, leave a penny. That means "fvck you" over here.

Fern

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: kmr1212

Originally posted by: zendari
Tipping was fine when it was a reasonable amount, not this ridiculous 20% figure.

Sorry, if you want more than $10 an hour (and that's being generous), try a job where you need more skills and education than being a waiter.

no.

try dealing with drunk douchebags for several hours everynight on the clock and tell me how well a degree would help you out. Anyone could be a waiter/bartender, but few can do it well.

What do you think people in retail deal with? And what do those guys get? When I worked at Circuit City I got $8 an hour starting, which is about what I think a waiter should get.

At least a bartender needs to know how to make drinks, all a dumbass waiter needs to know how to do is carry trays around.

$10 tip on a $50 family of 4 meal? I'd rather go to the damn kitchen and carry my own plate. Bartenders certainly don't deserve the entry level college grad salaries they get IMO.

 

[Kyanzes]

Tipping is an awkward thing. While I always give tips it's inconvenient for three reasons:

- I don't know if it's enough
- I don't know if it's too much
- I never get a tip for writing a prog, I always get what my contract says, $X not a penny less or more

It happens a lot that I give a tip and the bartender/delivery guy looks amazed and I immediatelly know that I gave too much, while sometimes they make faces and rake the tip in with a swift move, indicating that I happened to be a cheapo. I used to get tips when I worked in a comp shop - most people won't mind to leave a few $ worth change of local valuta on the counter - but I never felt particularly amazed by that and never really wanted them to do that. It actually forms some kind of unwanted connection with the customer I'm not in need of. They call back/come back for some reason and they expect distinctive attention. Anyway, IMHO, the world would be a better place without tipping.

 

[ubercaffeinated]

Originally posted by: kami333

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: archcommus
Our waiters and waitresses are nicer to us here because they have an incentive to make us happy (getting a good tip).

So suck it.

That's inane, and a customer service killer. They should be equally pleasant to all customers, and guess what, you can always try 'being nice and cheery' to them if you want to give them an incentive

:thumbsup:

Works perfectly well in Japan, do your freakin job dammit without me having to bribe you.

seriously, in all the countries i visit that you don't have to tip in, the service has been great. and these weren't the tourist spots either - the places i went to were the normal places the indigenous folk go to. quite the pleasant experiences, so much so that it MAKES you want to tip them, even if they will forcibly reject such offerings.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: Fern
If you really, really want to offend the waiter/waitress, leave a penny. That means "fvck you" over here.

Fern

For added effect ask for change on a nickle/dime/quarter first, even if you already have a penny.

 

[fLum0x]

Originally posted by: j00fek
i live in the us and i dont tip, so kill me

 

[miri]

Originally posted by: makoto00
seriously, in all the countries i visit that you don't have to tip in, the service has been great. and these weren't the tourist spots either - the places i went to were the normal places the indigenous folk go to. quite the pleasant experiences, so much so that it MAKES you want to tip them, even if they will forcibly reject such offerings.

It was the opposite when I lived in Spain, the servers there seemed to not want to serve you, you had to ask for a menu, if you sat down it was like you were bothering them since they dont rely on tips.

It was different in Morocco though since they rely on tips and the service there was great

 

[ubercaffeinated]

Originally posted by: Kyanzes
Tipping is an awkward thing. While I always give tips it's inconvenient for three reasons:

- I don't know if it's enough
- I don't know if it's too much
- I never get a tip for writing a prog, I always get what my contract says, $X not a penny less or more

unless it's a nice restaurant and/or you're with a larger sized party and they specifically state 20% gratuity, usually i tip double the amount of the tax. but then again, this is california where tax is roughly 8%. so about 15% of the bill is tip. this is for acceptable/normal service rendered of course. if they're ****** to me, they're not getting a tip - which has yet never happened.

at bars/club i usually tip well on crowded nights- that way i get preferential service/stronger drinks. so in hollywood were a vodka&redbull costs like 12 bucks, i order 2, and pay 30. and almost always the bartender will skip to me past the people waiting at the bar on my next round.

as for the people who don't tip, and live in the US, you guys are bums. i hope you atleast tip when you go out with friends/family, so they don't have to pick up your slack. i've known an acquaintance that would NEVER pay tips for shiet. it got old quick, and my friends and i simply don't invite him on any outings anymore.

 

[SpanishFry]

Originally posted by: kami333

Originally posted by: kmr1212

Originally posted by: zendari
Tipping was fine when it was a reasonable amount, not this ridiculous 20% figure.

Sorry, if you want more than $10 an hour (and that's being generous), try a job where you need more skills and education than being a waiter.

no.

try dealing with drunk douchebags for several hours everynight on the clock and tell me how well a degree would help you out. Anyone could be a waiter/bartender, but few can do it well.

Then why do it?

I hated doing tech support so I got out of it. Get a degree and get a different job where you don't have to deal with drunk douchebags. Oh wait, you make more money as a bartender, right:roll:

Have a degree and a career

I do both. Office M-F, Bar Fri&Sat. nights. It's a great way to hang out with my friends and make a few hundred a night. If you don't like the system, buy a 12 pack and serve yourself.

 

[miri]

Originally posted by: kmr1212
Have a degree and a career

I do both. Office M-F, Bar Fri&Sat. nights. It's a great way to hang out with my friends and make a few hundred a night. If you don't like the system, buy a 12 pack and serve yourself.

same, I graduated last year and worked in the office during the day and waited tables at night. Even though I have a office job now its hard for me to leave the restaurant industry because I enjoy it. I enjoy working directly with the public and enjoyed hanging out with the younger people 18-23 that work in restaurants.

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: kmr1212

Originally posted by: kami333

Originally posted by: kmr1212

Originally posted by: zendari
Tipping was fine when it was a reasonable amount, not this ridiculous 20% figure.

Sorry, if you want more than $10 an hour (and that's being generous), try a job where you need more skills and education than being a waiter.

no.

try dealing with drunk douchebags for several hours everynight on the clock and tell me how well a degree would help you out. Anyone could be a waiter/bartender, but few can do it well.

Then why do it?

I hated doing tech support so I got out of it. Get a degree and get a different job where you don't have to deal with drunk douchebags. Oh wait, you make more money as a bartender, right:roll:

Have a degree and a career

I do both. Office M-F, Bar Fri&Sat. nights. It's a great way to hang out with my friends and make a few hundred a night. If you don't like the system, buy a 12 pack and serve yourself.

PWNT.

 

[SSP]

You picked the wrong topic today dug. Next time try a circumcision thread. lol

 

[Nutdotnet]

The concept of tipping is a joke.

Passing on the costs that the bar/restaruant/cafe owner should bear and pass it on to the customer. ****** ridiculous.

That being said, I'm happy to tip when it is warranted, the waiter/bartender/barista is only trying to make a $$$, but really, we should end this nonsense...I don't understand why the government allows service employees to get paid peanuts...hell...less than peanuts...

 

[SpanishFry]

Originally posted by: miri

Originally posted by: kmr1212
Have a degree and a career

I do both. Office M-F, Bar Fri&Sat. nights. It's a great way to hang out with my friends and make a few hundred a night. If you don't like the system, buy a 12 pack and serve yourself.

same, I graduated last year and worked in the office during the day and waited tables at night. Even though I have a office job now its hard for me to leave the restaurant industry because I enjoy it. I enjoy working directly with the public and enjoyed hanging out with the younger people 18-23 that work in restaurants.

Yeah, it's pretty interesting on Fridays. I go from an office environment with 30-50 year old coworkers and am working my way up, to the bar I've worked at for 6 years and work with 20-25 year olds all night.

"Just When I Think I'm Out, They Pull Me Back In."

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

I like my friend's method. When He sits down he puts a stack of ones on the table. He tells them, This is what your tip COULD be. Everytime you do something wrong, or that displeases me, I take one away.

 

[ViviTheMage]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
I like my friend's method. When He sits down he puts a stack of ones on the table. He tells them, This is what your tip COULD be. Everytime you do something wrong, or that displeases me, I take one away.

I do that too, but I do it in my mind...that way I can see if they are any good without having the real incentive I guess...me and my girlfriend have conversations on what we shouldnt tip for, or ooo theres another dollars, etc.

we are picky because we have a lot of waitress/waiters as friends, and she is a busser/waitress herself.