Tipping...

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: Schfifty Five

Nice attempt to try to cover up your trolling :roll:

Grow up kiddo.

How can he troll his own thread?

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: SophalotJack
And if we don't tip, then the terrorists win.

Not sure how you go from A to B here.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Garet Jax

Originally posted by: SophalotJack
And if we don't tip, then the terrorists win.

Not sure how you go from A to B here.

Someone like you has no hope of understanding the mechanics of global terrorism. But rest assured, this country would crumble under the fist of Al Queda if people stopped tipping.

 

[Scatterplot]

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: archcommus
Our waiters and waitresses are nicer to us here because they have an incentive to make us happy (getting a good tip).

So suck it.

Absolutely. Having been overseas in non-tipping areas, the servers definitely aren't as friendly as they can be..though there are exceptions of course, but in general when you're not working toward a tip there is little incentive to be extra nice.

Plus, I never found a single restaurant (fast-food or sit down..except for Subway) that offered free refills for drinks. Even this buffet I went to only allowed you one refill on drinks, if you wanted more you paid.

I assume you meant overseas? Cause here in tha US we get free refills everywhere... 'cept on milk and juices.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Garet Jax

Originally posted by: SophalotJack
And if we don't tip, then the terrorists win.

Not sure how you go from A to B here.

Someone like you has no hope of understanding the mechanics of global terrorism. But rest assured, this country would crumble under the fist of Al Queda if people stopped tipping.

:thumbsup:

It's be 9/11 x 2356!

 

[BlancoNino]

All I ask for is 10-15% tip for the pizza's I deliver. The sad thing is I run into these "enlightened" customers who say "I don't tip because you should get payed a fair wage". Sure, as long as it's not YOUR money.

If pizza-delivery guys simply got paid more and couldn't recieve tips, they'd have no incentive to deliver the pizza faster and hurry back to get more. They'd drive around.

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: archcommus
Our waiters and waitresses are nicer to us here because they have an incentive to make us happy (getting a good tip).

So suck it.

That's inane, and a customer service killer. They should be equally pleasant to all customers, and guess what, you can always try 'being nice and cheery' to them if you want to give them an incentive

EDIT: & how do you know they are 'nicer'?

Money > your irrational hopes.

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Garet Jax

Originally posted by: SophalotJack
And if we don't tip, then the terrorists win.

Not sure how you go from A to B here.

Someone like you has no hope of understanding the mechanics of global terrorism. But rest assured, this country would crumble under the fist of Al Queda if people stopped tipping.

Now I'm really confused.

 

[Nutdotnet]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino
All I ask for is 10-15% tip for the pizza's I deliver. The sad thing is I run into these "enlightened" customers who say "I don't tip because you should get payed a fair wage". Sure, as long as it's not YOUR money.

If pizza-delivery guys simply got paid more and couldn't recieve tips, they'd have no incentive to deliver the pizza faster and hurry back to get more. They'd drive around.

Well that's just stupid...sorry you have to go through that.

I AM one of those "enlightened" ones, BUT, just because I think that way doesn't mean I take it out on the delivery guy...as long as you guys get my food to me hot and fresh I'll hook you up...I think we've all been there @ one point where working a pizza/fast food/restaraunt job was what we HAD to do, not what we wanted to do.

I did it when I was 16...I got stiffed too...it sucks, but, I think the key is...

A delivery driver/waiter/bartender (well, sort of bartender...you want to get hooked up you gotta tip) should NEVER expect to get a tip....if you work with that mindset the tips will come, and you'll do A-OK.

Edit- you delivery drivers have it even worse with the "delivery fees" which, are rightfully, taken out of how much the customer will end up tipping...now that's bullshit.

 

[kami333]

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: kmr1212

Originally posted by: kami333

Originally posted by: kmr1212

Originally posted by: zendari
Tipping was fine when it was a reasonable amount, not this ridiculous 20% figure.

Sorry, if you want more than $10 an hour (and that's being generous), try a job where you need more skills and education than being a waiter.

no.

try dealing with drunk douchebags for several hours everynight on the clock and tell me how well a degree would help you out. Anyone could be a waiter/bartender, but few can do it well.

Then why do it?

I hated doing tech support so I got out of it. Get a degree and get a different job where you don't have to deal with drunk douchebags. Oh wait, you make more money as a bartender, right:roll:

Have a degree and a career

I do both. Office M-F, Bar Fri&Sat. nights. It's a great way to hang out with my friends and make a few hundred a night. If you don't like the system, buy a 12 pack and serve yourself.

PWNT.

How so? He doesn't have to work there, yet he chooses to and complains

 

[kami333]

Originally posted by: kmr1212

Originally posted by: kami333

Originally posted by: kmr1212

Originally posted by: zendari
Tipping was fine when it was a reasonable amount, not this ridiculous 20% figure.

Sorry, if you want more than $10 an hour (and that's being generous), try a job where you need more skills and education than being a waiter.

no.

try dealing with drunk douchebags for several hours everynight on the clock and tell me how well a degree would help you out. Anyone could be a waiter/bartender, but few can do it well.

Then why do it?

I hated doing tech support so I got out of it. Get a degree and get a different job where you don't have to deal with drunk douchebags. Oh wait, you make more money as a bartender, right:roll:

Have a degree and a career

I do both. Office M-F, Bar Fri&Sat. nights. It's a great way to hang out with my friends and make a few hundred a night. If you don't like the system, buy a 12 pack and serve yourself.

Wait, so where are you having to deal with drunk douchebags??? Why are you complaining since you are CHOOSING to be there?

And I used to to that regularly. PA lets you buy 6packs at the bar and my friend's place was right next door.

 

[dug777]

Wow, such hatred

Anyway, i've basically visited most of the world (region-wise), and i've found good and bad service everywhere, regardless of whether the culture was to tip or not (and being sucker visitors we always tipped fairly generously if it was). I just can't see it being necessary, we generally have great service here (and most unbiased visitors (people who've actually been here that means )will attest to that, and we don't tip.

You SHOULD be doing the job you are paid to do to the best of your ability, you shouldn't need what amounts to a shameless bribe to do it well, or to put any effort in...and if you do, get another job.

Anyway, the bizarre personal abuse i've had to put up with in this thread puzzles me...

 

[SirStev0]

I bet you pay more for you food... no tipping means that the employer pays a larger base rate... think he takes the loss... nope it gets shifted on to the costumer...

you tip... you just don't know it.

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: dug777
At least there's none of this 'he/she's a crappy tipper' & 'omg how much do i tip the turtle walker/fence flosser' crap here tho, we pay the stated price for the service, everyone is very happy, and the world keeps on turning...

:thumbsup:

Tip in the US is almost like an extra tax, just that people don't realize that.
When I say 'get rid of the tipping system' the answer is always '... but then restaurants can't keep the prices low...'
Well, duh...... you will most likely pay the same anyway.

Some crackpots even tip people who already make a good living.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: SirStev0
I bet you pay more for you food... no tipping means that the employer pays a larger base rate... think he takes the loss... nope it gets shifted on to the costumer...

you tip... you just don't know it.

sure, but i prefer this system, no confusion and no unpleasantness...

 

[tyler811]

Originally posted by: tw1164
I hate when there's a tipping cup on the counter, why should a doughnut cashier get a tip? Its all a scam!

:thumbsup:

 

[L1FE]

Does it honestly matter if you permanently add the cost into your service and say no to tipping or if you just keep the current system where you're expected to tip anyway? Because, if we don't tip waiters/waitresses, employers will actually have to pay them minimum wage (as opposed to some places that just work them for a few bucks and hour and have that made up later by tips), and that cost will eventually be passed on to the customer anyway. If you live in America and automatically add the price of tip to your meals, whose fault is that? It's not like it's a surprise fee that you never knew about...

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: L1FE
Does it honestly matter if you permanently add the cost into your service and say no to tipping or if you just keep the current system where you're expected to tip anyway? Because, if we don't tip waiters/waitresses, employers will actually have to pay them minimum wage (as opposed to some places that just work them for a few bucks and hour and have that made up later by tips), and that cost will eventually be passed on to the customer anyway. If you live in America and automatically add the price of tip to your meals, whose fault is that? It's not like it's a surprise fee that you never knew about...

well, why not just save the hassle & pay them the minimum wage? There's clearly confusion in many people's minds as to how much some services should get tipped, and there's clearly a strong anti-customer service sentiment in the bartending/waiting group that says if you don;t tip, and tip generously at that, you tightwad, i'm going to give you crap service!

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: L1FE
Does it honestly matter if you permanently add the cost into your service and say no to tipping or if you just keep the current system where you're expected to tip anyway? Because, if we don't tip waiters/waitresses, employers will actually have to pay them minimum wage (as opposed to some places that just work them for a few bucks and hour and have that made up later by tips), and that cost will eventually be passed on to the customer anyway. If you live in America and automatically add the price of tip to your meals, whose fault is that? It's not like it's a surprise fee that you never knew about...

well, why not just save the hassle & pay them the minimum wage? There's clearly confusion in many people's minds as to how much some services should get tipped, and there's clearly a strong anti-customer service sentiment in the bartending/waiting group that says if you don;t tip, and tip generously at that, you tightwad, i'm going to give you crap service!

Why? Because waiters and bartenders currently make 2-3x minimum wage easily, and they're the ones who fuel the new ideas and try to set the standards about 20% tipping. :roll:

The only people really worth tipping are pizza delivery boys, and that's if the place doesn't charge a delivery fee. I started picking up pizza myself now, when the local place started delivery fees. A $2 tip and a $2 fee is hardly worth a 5 minute drive each way.

 

[SpanishFry]

Originally posted by: kami333

Originally posted by: kmr1212

Originally posted by: kami333

Originally posted by: kmr1212

Originally posted by: zendari
Tipping was fine when it was a reasonable amount, not this ridiculous 20% figure.

Sorry, if you want more than $10 an hour (and that's being generous), try a job where you need more skills and education than being a waiter.

no.

try dealing with drunk douchebags for several hours everynight on the clock and tell me how well a degree would help you out. Anyone could be a waiter/bartender, but few can do it well.

Then why do it?

I hated doing tech support so I got out of it. Get a degree and get a different job where you don't have to deal with drunk douchebags. Oh wait, you make more money as a bartender, right:roll:

Have a degree and a career

I do both. Office M-F, Bar Fri&Sat. nights. It's a great way to hang out with my friends and make a few hundred a night. If you don't like the system, buy a 12 pack and serve yourself.

Wait, so where are you having to deal with drunk douchebags??? Why are you complaining since you are CHOOSING to be there?

And I used to to that regularly. PA lets you buy 6packs at the bar and my friend's place was right next door.

please re-read. i didn't complain. you began compaining, and i justified the system. who DOESN'T choose to work where they do or what they do?

Get off of your high horse and join the rest of us.

 

[skim milk]

I hate the tipping craze in America

After being away for a year.. now I come back to it and I'm having a hard time tipping for everything again
haircut, food, delivery, hotel cleaning, and the list goes on and on

 

[kami333]

Originally posted by: kmr1212

Originally posted by: kami333

Originally posted by: kmr1212

Originally posted by: kami333

Originally posted by: kmr1212

Originally posted by: zendari
Tipping was fine when it was a reasonable amount, not this ridiculous 20% figure.

Sorry, if you want more than $10 an hour (and that's being generous), try a job where you need more skills and education than being a waiter.

no.

try dealing with drunk douchebags for several hours everynight on the clock and tell me how well a degree would help you out. Anyone could be a waiter/bartender, but few can do it well.

Then why do it?

I hated doing tech support so I got out of it. Get a degree and get a different job where you don't have to deal with drunk douchebags. Oh wait, you make more money as a bartender, right:roll:

Have a degree and a career

I do both. Office M-F, Bar Fri&Sat. nights. It's a great way to hang out with my friends and make a few hundred a night. If you don't like the system, buy a 12 pack and serve yourself.

Wait, so where are you having to deal with drunk douchebags??? Why are you complaining since you are CHOOSING to be there?

And I used to to that regularly. PA lets you buy 6packs at the bar and my friend's place was right next door.

please re-read. i didn't complain. you began compaining, and i justified the system. who DOESN'T choose to work where they do or what they do?

Get off of your high horse and join the rest of us.

You mean the rest of the world that doesn't revolve around tips? Oh, right, in other countries it's considered "gifting" or bribing.

 

[DrPizza]

Oh, I thought this thread was going to be about cow tipping... I'm sure there are dozens of idiots here who have done it, but no one in Australia stupid enough to make the same claim.

 

[ZOXXO]

Originally posted by: dug777
At least there's none of this 'he/she's a crappy tipper' & 'omg how much do i tip the turtle walker/fence flosser' crap here tho, we pay the stated price for the service, everyone is very happy, and the world keeps on turning...

So am I to understand that if I were to enjoy a meal in your oft proclaimed wonderful country of Australia that if upon paying the bill I were to offer an overpayment to show my gratitude it would be refused?

Is expedited shipping or any form of monetary based preferential treatment also an unknown concept in your paradise?

Your feigned naivety is neither charming or believable.

 

[Cristatus]

Personally, if there is no "national" tipping system, and the client leaves a tip, I think it means more. And those "unasked for" tips usually means the waiters will work harder in order to get those tips.