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Tipping on top of tax?

tokie

tokie

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OK, so I know this is *yet* another tipping thread, but I believe this aspect of it has not been covered yet.

Everywhere in Canada/Toronto I've been, people tip on the amount of the regular meal, not the total after tax. So if my meal is $10 before tax, a 15% tip would be $1.50. It used to be convenient when the sales tax was 15% in Ontario, because a 15% tip would be the same amount as the tax.

I noticed during a recent visit to NYC that the "suggested tips" on receipts were calculated using the after-tax total. Am I supposed to tip the government for taxing me or something? Realistically, this little trick takes the tip up from 15% to a total of maybe 20% or so, depending on the tax in your state.
 
That little trick makes sure you're counting, subtle math skills enforcer 🙂 Unless of course you don't care, then you pay more..
 
I tip on after tax because I am not overly anal retentive and try not to let $1 make a huge difference in my life.
 
Proper tipping would remove the sales tax before calculating the tip, but it's such a minuscule amount that it's hardly worth messing with.

15% * 8.25% sales tax = 1.2375% Hardly worth the effort. (62 cents on $50)
 
tokie said:
Realistically, this little trick takes the tip up from 15% to a total of maybe 20% or so, depending on the tax in your state.
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Huh?

Assume $100 tab. 15% = $15 tip. With 8% tax, 15% = $16.20

You wouldn't be paying "maybe 20% or so" unless tax was ~35% which is ludicrous.

Also, who tips 15% anymore?
 
LucJoe said:
Huh?

Assume $100 tab. 15% = $15 tip. With 8% tax, 15% = $16.20

You wouldn't be paying "maybe 20% or so" unless tax was ~35% which is ludicrous.

Also, who tips 15% anymore?
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Tax in Toronto is 13% (used to be 15%). It is 15% in several other provinces.
 
tokie said:
OK, so I know this is *yet* another tipping thread, but I believe this aspect of it has not been covered yet.

Everywhere in Canada/Toronto I've been, people tip on the amount of the regular meal, not the total after tax. So if my meal is $10 before tax, a 15% tip would be $1.50. It used to be convenient when the sales tax was 15% in Ontario, because a 15% tip would be the same amount as the tax.

I noticed during a recent visit to NYC that the "suggested tips" on receipts were calculated using the after-tax total. Am I supposed to tip the government for taxing me or something? Realistically, this little trick takes the tip up from 15% to a total of maybe 20% or so, depending on the tax in your state.
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I always tip pretax. no way do they deserve extra because of tax.
 
Last time I checked the "suggested" amount for a tip was 20% so I calculate 15% on the after tax figuring it will be close enough.
 
I just grab whatever handful of change is in my pocket and throw it on the ground for the midget waiter to pick up.
 
I tip on top of tax because the difference it not worth it to me.
Also, most people are bad tippers, so I am helping even things out. 🙂

JS80 said:
$1 per dish.
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What if you order food that come on a plate or in a bowl?
 
edro said:
I tip on top of tax because the difference it not worth it to me.
Also, most people are bad tippers, so I am helping even things out. 🙂


What if you order food that come on a plate or in a bowl?
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Depends how much cleavage the server was showing.
 
tokie said:
OK, so I know this is *yet* another tipping thread, but I believe this aspect of it has not been covered yet.

Everywhere in Canada/Toronto I've been, people tip on the amount of the regular meal, not the total after tax. So if my meal is $10 before tax, a 15% tip would be $1.50. It used to be convenient when the sales tax was 15% in Ontario, because a 15% tip would be the same amount as the tax.

I noticed during a recent visit to NYC that the "suggested tips" on receipts were calculated using the after-tax total. Am I supposed to tip the government for taxing me or something? Realistically, this little trick takes the tip up from 15% to a total of maybe 20% or so, depending on the tax in your state.
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Not quite.

$100 bill plus 8.75% tax (that's the sales tax rate here in San Diego) brings the total up to $108.75. If you calculate a 15% tip on $108.75 it comes out to $16.31 or just a little over 16%. Even if tax was 15% it would still only come out to a little over 17%...not 20%.
 
tokie said:
OK, so I know this is *yet* another tipping thread, but I believe this aspect of it has not been covered yet.

Everywhere in Canada/Toronto I've been, people tip on the amount of the regular meal, not the total after tax. So if my meal is $10 before tax, a 15% tip would be $1.50. It used to be convenient when the sales tax was 15% in Ontario, because a 15% tip would be the same amount as the tax.

I noticed during a recent visit to NYC that the "suggested tips" on receipts were calculated using the after-tax total. Am I supposed to tip the government for taxing me or something? Realistically, this little trick takes the tip up from 15% to a total of maybe 20% or so, depending on the tax in your state.
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tip b4 tax is the norm.

in nyc, just double the tax if you dont want to do multiplication.
tax = ~8.75% so double is 17.5%.
hm.. almost the same as 15% on top of tax??
 
I use a predetermined amount for tips that I give based on quality of service and quality of food. For meals under $50 that are outstanding (food/service) will tip $10. Average to mediocre service gets $5 to $3 and poor service gets no tip. That's right, no tip.

I am not obligated to tip at all, it's something I do because I like to tip for reasonable service.
 
You tip on the before-tax amount.

If all you have is after tax, just go 15% and round up.

The easiest thing to do is take the pre-tax, round it up to the nearest dollar, give 15% and then round up again. You should be at about 16%-18% depending on how expensive your meal was.

Then, if you liked it, you can just put some cash on the table in addition to your CC receipt.

For some reason, that income rarely gets declared... 😕
 
Ninjahedge said:
You tip on the before-tax amount.

If all you have is after tax, just go 15% and round up.

The easiest thing to do is take the pre-tax, round it up to the nearest dollar, give 15% and then round up again. You should be at about 16%-18% depending on how expensive your meal was.

Then, if you liked it, you can just put some cash on the table in addition to your CC receipt.

For some reason, that income rarely gets declared... 😕
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There is no standard for tipping. Everyone tips differently.
 
If the service is really really good I will tip on the after-tax amount.

It's weird. Some people get angry when I do that, but I don't care. It's not like I always do it. Just think of it as tipping a higher percentage, not a regular tip on the after-tax amount.
 
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