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Tipping on top of tax?

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SandEagle

Lifer
Aug 4, 2007
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i just wish congress would pass a law that would ban tipping. i'd gladly pay a $20 yearly tax for this bill to pass.
 

drinkmorejava

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Jun 24, 2004
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Is that not illegal to give a receipt without the tax on it? Seems like a way to fleece tourists or people who don't know the tax rate.

They also give you the full or summary receipt, but they're expecting you to not look at it when you're doing the tip.
 

Lithium381

Lifer
May 12, 2001
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OK, so I know this is *yet* another tipping thread, but I believe this aspect of it has not been covered yet.

Everywhere in Canada/Toronto I've been, people tip on the amount of the regular meal, not the total after tax. So if my meal is $10 before tax, a 15% tip would be $1.50. It used to be convenient when the sales tax was 15% in Ontario, because a 15% tip would be the same amount as the tax.

I noticed during a recent visit to NYC that the "suggested tips" on receipts were calculated using the after-tax total. Am I supposed to tip the government for taxing me or something? Realistically, this little trick takes the tip up from 15% to a total of maybe 20% or so, depending on the tax in your state.

yes, you should tip Uncle Sam for providing for you
 

Mike Gayner

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Jan 5, 2007
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i just wish congress would pass a law that would ban tipping. i'd gladly pay a $20 yearly tax for this bill to pass.

Why don't you just not tip? They can't force you to tip can they? I know if I ever went to the USA I wouldn't tip unless I felt the service deserved it.
 

Ninjahedge

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Mar 2, 2005
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OK, this is crap.

1. You calculate tip on what you bought, not the tax. You can pay whatever the hell you want, but you are just being a little more generous on the after tax.

2. Adding tax to the amount separately is a sham. They should just include it in the menu price. You say $15, let me PAY $15. Nevermind $16.05 because of tax (this is really a bother at a bar/grill. I pay $5 for a drink at the bar, but $5.35 at the table? Add to this the typical buck tip on a brew vs 15%. I would pay $6.10 at the table and the waiter would only get $0.75 or I pay $6 at the bar and give the bartender $1. Absolute BS)

3. there was a legal case on the group tip thing. If the writing calls it "gratuity" you do not have to pay it. If they call it "service charge" you do. Legal lingo, but one is still defined as a "thank you" and the other as a billable service/charge. Convincing the place you are at may be something different though.

Blame #3 on the asshats that will go in as a party, leave a huge mess and leave crap for tips because $20 LOOKS like enough, but is beans for a meal that summed up over $200.....
 

Juked07

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Actually, after looking at the OP again I think this is a pure troll thread.. I'm sure the OP can see that 15&#37; of sales tax (usually on the order of <10%) is less than 1.5%, and no one cares about 1.5%. Most people probably aren't even necessarily within 1.5% when they try to tip a certain percentage. OP just wanted to see ATOT argue about tips..