Tip the pizza guy more for a larger order? Why?

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: Lithium381

Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK

Originally posted by: nan0bug A better question is what is it with all these cheapskate penny pinchin misers on ATOT? If giving the pizza guy at least a 3 dollar tip is gonna break the bank, maybe you should be eating ramen instead.

Thats nice, are you one of them? I tend to think that there should just be a set tip amount except for excessively large orders or poor service. That way the pizza guy doesnt get shafted and the customer isn't paying unknowlingly excessive.

for 1 / 2 pizzas $2 minimum.....$3 the driver leaves with a smile >$4 and you get put on his priority service seriously, with only a handful of drivers, the chances you get the same guy are high, most of the delivery guys KNOW who tips and who doesn't...and they talk......those who tip well pretty much ALWAYS get their pizza first, with all the cheese peppers plates napkins etc......true, you'll eventually get your pizza even if you don't tip.......but really, the bigger the order, the bigger the tip, even if following the 15% rule, if you order another pizza, the tip will naturally be bigger eh?

"Eh" - STOP USING CANADIAN!!!!!!!!!

 

[syberscott]

***WARNING, RANT***
The whole tipping thing is stupid. To all you people calling other people cheapskates... when is the last time you tipped the guy at McDonalds, the courier, etc? I worked part time at an icecream shop for 8 years and never saw many tips. Is it because I didn't do a good job? No, it's because tipping the icecream dude isn't expected by society. Who the hell comes up with all these dumb rules?

 

[Lucky]

Originally posted by: InstincT

Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK

When you are managing 5 different deliveries each time you leave your store, adding another pizza to each order does add up.

Sitting in the car in a bag?

The pizza does magically have to get into the car.

poor you. having to carry an extra 18 ounces.

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: syberscott
***WARNING, RANT*** The whole tipping thing is stupid. To all you people calling other people cheapskates... when is the last time you tipped the guy at McDonalds, the courier, etc? I worked part time at an icecream shop for 8 years and never saw many tips. Is it because I didn't do a good job? No, it's because tipping the icecream dude isn't expected by society. Who the hell comes up with all these dumb rules?

You are doing much more than scooping ice cream out of a fvcking container when you're busting your ass to get PIZZA to someones house. You don't have to find houses without freaking addresses posted outside, you don't have a contiuously bang on peoples doors for long amounts of time because they're too busy watching a movie or are in their back yard pool and didn't bother to let the pizza guy know that, etc. Rain, tough sh!t, you've gotta stick it out no matter if the customer has a porch or not! AS easy as delivering pizza sounds, it gets damn tough at times. Name the worst situations you could ever be in, and a pizza delivery guy has been there.

 

[syberscott]

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: syberscott
***WARNING, RANT*** The whole tipping thing is stupid. To all you people calling other people cheapskates... when is the last time you tipped the guy at McDonalds, the courier, etc? I worked part time at an icecream shop for 8 years and never saw many tips. Is it because I didn't do a good job? No, it's because tipping the icecream dude isn't expected by society. Who the hell comes up with all these dumb rules?

You are doing much more than scooping ice cream out of a fvcking container when you're busting your ass to get PIZZA to someones house. You don't have to find houses without freaking addresses posted outside, you don't have a contiuously bang on peoples doors for long amounts of time because they're too busy watching a movie or are in their back yard pool and didn't bother to let the pizza guy know that, etc. Rain, tough sh!t, you've gotta stick it out no matter if the customer has a porch or not! AS easy as delivering pizza sounds, it gets damn tough at times. Name the worst situations you could ever be in, and a pizza delivery guy has been there.

Ok, you deal with 10-16 five year olds at a birthday party and tell me that it's easy. And by the way, in my current job I go to people's houses doing service calls and I work outside all day. Stop whining about rain man. You're only outside for like a couple of minutes.

 

[deftron]

Originally posted by: syberscott
***WARNING, RANT***
The whole tipping thing is stupid. To all you people calling other people cheapskates... when is the last time you tipped the guy at McDonalds, the courier, etc? I worked part time at an icecream shop for 8 years and never saw many tips. Is it because I didn't do a good job? No, it's because tipping the icecream dude isn't expected by society. Who the hell comes up with all these dumb rules?

It's basic economics..

Tips are factored into the cost of employment for an employer.

If the employee is customarily tipped, then the empoyer doesn't have to
pay them as much and the actual price for the goods is less for the customer.
If the empoyee is not tipped, then the employer has to make up for the
difference, and the cost of goods is going to be higher.

If a pizza guy was never tipped, then the cost of pizzas is going to go up.

If the ice cream guy was tipped consistantly.. then most likely a banana split is gonna be a little cheaper

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: syberscott

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: syberscott ***WARNING, RANT*** The whole tipping thing is stupid. To all you people calling other people cheapskates... when is the last time you tipped the guy at McDonalds, the courier, etc? I worked part time at an icecream shop for 8 years and never saw many tips. Is it because I didn't do a good job? No, it's because tipping the icecream dude isn't expected by society. Who the hell comes up with all these dumb rules?

You are doing much more than scooping ice cream out of a fvcking container when you're busting your ass to get PIZZA to someones house. You don't have to find houses without freaking addresses posted outside, you don't have a contiuously bang on peoples doors for long amounts of time because they're too busy watching a movie or are in their back yard pool and didn't bother to let the pizza guy know that, etc. Rain, tough sh!t, you've gotta stick it out no matter if the customer has a porch or not! AS easy as delivering pizza sounds, it gets damn tough at times. Name the worst situations you could ever be in, and a pizza delivery guy has been there.

Ok, you deal with 10-16 five year olds at a birthday party and tell me that it's easy. And by the way, in my current job I go to people's houses doing service calls and I work outside all day. Stop whining about rain man. You're only outside for like a couple of minutes.

I've done that too (the 15-16 year olds). It's not fun being bum rushed by 30 of them. And about the rain, you've obviously never lived in Florida. A few minutes of rain = soaked like you just jumped in a swimming pool.

 

[Buttzilla]

i work in a pizza joint now and goddam its tough. i'm lucky though cause i'm a waiter/sup...our drivers on the other hand don't get jack crap. my boss is so cheap that he doesn't even pay for their gas...and some nights they only make a few bucks off of tip.

tonight for example my driver only got 3 dollars! of 2 orders she only got tip for one. the other order was 60 and she got none...i felt bad so i gave her 5 bucks out of my own tip. on top of that, she had to give the cooks a buck. so technicall she made only 2 dollars. alot of these people make a living like this.

anywho...to each his own, if you dont' want to tip alot then don't, but the gesture is appretiated.

thanks to all the peeps out there who give us pizza guys nice tips, it makes the hard day a little less depressing. another note, i'm a college grad, working on my post bach, if i could find another job i would but i need to pay bills so for those who tell us to find another job...well, sometimes there aren't any opportunities.

 

[syberscott]

Originally posted by: deftron

Originally posted by: syberscott
***WARNING, RANT***
The whole tipping thing is stupid. To all you people calling other people cheapskates... when is the last time you tipped the guy at McDonalds, the courier, etc? I worked part time at an icecream shop for 8 years and never saw many tips. Is it because I didn't do a good job? No, it's because tipping the icecream dude isn't expected by society. Who the hell comes up with all these dumb rules?

It's basic economics..

Tips are factored into the cost of employment for an employer.

If the employee is customarily tipped, then the empoyer doesn't have to
pay them as much and the actual price for the goods is less for the customer.
If the empoyee is not tipped, then the employer has to make up for the
difference, and the cost of goods is going to be higher.

If a pizza guy was never tipped, then the cost of pizzas is going to go up.

If the ice cream guy was tipped consistantly.. then most likely a banana split is gonna be a little cheaper

I don't agree here. Both are minimum wage jobs. So tell me how the icecream products would be cheaper when the employer's costs are the same, tipping or not. (BTW, I'm not complaining about not being tipped, I liked the job)

 

[dafatha00]

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: syberscott
***WARNING, RANT*** The whole tipping thing is stupid. To all you people calling other people cheapskates... when is the last time you tipped the guy at McDonalds, the courier, etc? I worked part time at an icecream shop for 8 years and never saw many tips. Is it because I didn't do a good job? No, it's because tipping the icecream dude isn't expected by society. Who the hell comes up with all these dumb rules?

You are doing much more than scooping ice cream out of a fvcking container when you're busting your ass to get PIZZA to someones house. You don't have to find houses without freaking addresses posted outside, you don't have a contiuously bang on peoples doors for long amounts of time because they're too busy watching a movie or are in their back yard pool and didn't bother to let the pizza guy know that, etc. Rain, tough sh!t, you've gotta stick it out no matter if the customer has a porch or not! AS easy as delivering pizza sounds, it gets damn tough at times. Name the worst situations you could ever be in, and a pizza delivery guy has been there.

There are many fast food joints in which people bust their ass to crank out food ASAP. During lunch hour at most fast food restaurants is hectic as hell, but they don't get tipped. Look at In&Out workers...they work their ass off. Now don't get me wrong, I tip the pizza delivery guy everytime ($3 bucks tonight) but I'm just saying many people work hard in the food business and don't get tipped.

 

[syberscott]

I've done that too (the 15-16 year olds). It's not fun being bum rushed by 30 of them. And about the rain, you've obviously never lived in Florida. A few minutes of rain = soaked like you just jumped in a swimming pool.

LOL, I knew the rain thing would come up again. I live on an island on the westcoast of Canada and we get lots of rain here. Just not the drenched in two minutes kind.

 

[Buttzilla]

you tip the people for their service...i mean, if baskin robbins was a 4 star ice crea parlor where waiters would come up to you and take ur ice cream order, then bring it out to you, clean up after you, things would be different.

delivery drivers bring the pizza to you, that takes effort. if you don't want to have to tip just pick up the pizza at the restaurant.

we do that at ours, when a call comes in for an order we ask them "is this for delivery or pick up," most of the time, we don't get tip for pick up but if the service is good then they customer usually leaves a dollar or two.

 

[csf]

Not to hijack the thread, but I found the site's claim that you have to tip waiters (not pizza guys) when ordering carry-out absolutely ludicrous (on their "when not to tip" section). The one really annoying thing I've noticed restaurants do lately is have a waiter take your order, just sit there and wait for the food to be slid up to the counter in a to-go bag, and then give you a receipt with a big TIP line on it. One of the main reasons to order carry-out is so you just serve and eat everything yourself and don't have to deal with the tip cost; like I'm going to pay someone to go back to the counter and hand me a bag full of food. It's amazing how pushy some people can be these days.

 

[deftron]

Originally posted by: syberscott

Originally posted by: deftron

Originally posted by: syberscott
***WARNING, RANT***
The whole tipping thing is stupid. To all you people calling other people cheapskates... when is the last time you tipped the guy at McDonalds, the courier, etc? I worked part time at an icecream shop for 8 years and never saw many tips. Is it because I didn't do a good job? No, it's because tipping the icecream dude isn't expected by society. Who the hell comes up with all these dumb rules?

It's basic economics..

Tips are factored into the cost of employment for an employer.

If the employee is customarily tipped, then the empoyer doesn't have to
pay them as much and the actual price for the goods is less for the customer.
If the empoyee is not tipped, then the employer has to make up for the
difference, and the cost of goods is going to be higher.

If a pizza guy was never tipped, then the cost of pizzas is going to go up.

If the ice cream guy was tipped consistantly.. then most likely a banana split is gonna be a little cheaper

I don't agree here. Both are minimum wage jobs. So tell me how the icecream products would be cheaper when the employer's costs are the same, tipping or not. (BTW, I'm not complaining about not being tipped, I liked the job)

Ice cream boy is a minimum wage job. Thats the genereal pay demand from employees.
If the ice cream dude got tipped a lot, the employer could pay him less than minumum wage, just like waiters.
And theoretically, the cost savings would be passed on to the customer.

Delivery is a slightly above minimum wage job.
Pizza guys make minimum wage plus tips because, one, they don't get enough tips to make up the difference
in minimum wage, and two, the pay demand is higer than minimum wage.
Without tips, the pizza place would be paying the drivers about $9 - 10 an hour. I was a florist driver, didn't get
much tips, and that's what I earned.

 

[Buttzilla]

the tip line is on the cc reciept...there is no seperate cc machine for waiter transactions and in house.

 

[csf]

Yeah I could normally understand this but the place I most recently encountered this in had its own seperately labelled take out counter, yet nobody was staffing there and the waitress comes up to me and even gave the CC bill in the fancy leather binder as if to browbeat me into giving an undeserved tip. I've ran into that type of thing at several places and find that annoying.

 

[syberscott]

Originally posted by: deftron

Originally posted by: syberscott

Originally posted by: deftron

Originally posted by: syberscott
***WARNING, RANT***
The whole tipping thing is stupid. To all you people calling other people cheapskates... when is the last time you tipped the guy at McDonalds, the courier, etc? I worked part time at an icecream shop for 8 years and never saw many tips. Is it because I didn't do a good job? No, it's because tipping the icecream dude isn't expected by society. Who the hell comes up with all these dumb rules?

It's basic economics..

Tips are factored into the cost of employment for an employer.

If the employee is customarily tipped, then the empoyer doesn't have to
pay them as much and the actual price for the goods is less for the customer.
If the empoyee is not tipped, then the employer has to make up for the
difference, and the cost of goods is going to be higher.

If a pizza guy was never tipped, then the cost of pizzas is going to go up.

If the ice cream guy was tipped consistantly.. then most likely a banana split is gonna be a little cheaper

I don't agree here. Both are minimum wage jobs. So tell me how the icecream products would be cheaper when the employer's costs are the same, tipping or not. (BTW, I'm not complaining about not being tipped, I liked the job)

Ice cream boy is a minimum wage job. Thats the genereal pay demand from employees.
If the ice cream dude got tipped a lot, the employer could pay him less than minumum wage, just like waiters.
And theoretically, the cost savings would be passed on to the customer.

Delivery is a slightly above minimum wage job.
Pizza guys make minimum wage plus tips because, one, they don't get enough tips to make up the difference
in minimum wage, and two, the pay demand is higer than minimum wage.
Without tips, the pizza place would be paying the drivers about $9 - 10 an hour. I was a florist driver, didn't get
much tips, and that's what I earned.

Here in Canada you can't pay less than minimum wage. Also, a pizza boy has to pay for car expenses too, so they should be making more. (That's why I tip them, cause they only make like a buck over minimum and that doesn't cover car expenses.)

 

[FrontlineWarrior]

i figure the dude has to drive all the way to my house, so i give him at least 2 bucks or 15% whichever is greater. i'm not a chump but i do think it's kinda fvcked up for a dude to drive all the way to someone's house and bring to their front door for anything less than 2 bucks a pop.

 

[dabuddha]

If the moron holds the pizza sideways like they normally do at my local pizza hut for some reason, he gets jack squat. I pay exact change and nothing more. Nothing worse than having your cheese and toppings all stuck on one side and to the top of the box.

 

[guyver01]

Originally posted by: InstincT

Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK

When you are managing 5 different deliveries each time you leave your store, adding another pizza to each order does add up.

Sitting in the car in a bag?

The pizza does magically have to get into the car.

if carrying two pizzas is harder than carrying one..... i'd try lifting weights when you're not doing deliveries.

Seriously... if multitasking is hard... don't work retail... when i worked retail... i was expected to help 10 customers at once... and noone tipped me for doing that.

 

[pukemon]

Originally posted by: nan0bug
A better question is what is it with all these cheapskate penny pinchin misers on ATOT?

If giving the pizza guy at least a 3 dollar tip is gonna break the bank, maybe you should be eating ramen instead.

lol yeah what he said. you can get away with being a cheapskate poor starving college student until you graduate; after which you have a job and are out livin' on your own and can afford to not be a cheapskate penny pinching bastard. if you're still asking people on online forums about being a not giving the squirt of a pizza delivery dude an extra buck, then yeah, ya just kind look like well, a cheapskate penny pinchin miser.

okay fine don't like that answer? here's the utilitarian approach. bill for 2 pizzas is $16.74 tax included, you give the guy $19. say you ordered another pizza (making a total of 3),add the amount extra and the tip is just rounded up to the nearest dollar.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally posted by: Wolverine27

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: Lithium381

Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK Okay so I got this link from another thread. http://tipthepizzaguy.com/ And I also read numerous other threads of where people say they tip more for a larger order. But why? It's not like it makes their task anymore difficult. It sits in the car most of the time and I don't see how carrying it to the door is anymore difficult seeing as he has a bag for it. I can understand if its like a really large order, but I don't see any difference from ordering 1 pizza to 2 pizzas. What warrants more of a tip for 2 pizzas or less for 1 pizza? Shouldn't they be the same?

have you ever been a delivery driver? "it's not like it makes their task anymore difficult" geez you sound like an idiot.....try it sometime and see what you think of people who don't tip..... if i were to get pizza delivery i'd genearlly do $2 minimum + $1 per pizza item.....but i work at a pizza place, no delivery for me!

I work at a pizza place too (Papa Johns), and people just don't know what it's like until they have delivered pizza.

I've got no problem tipping people for good service. But don't you think your employers should carry the burden of compensating you?

But if you know that this is how the system works, why would you cheat the little guy?

 

[tk149]

Originally posted by: rbloedow
Name the worst situations you could ever be in, and a pizza delivery guy has been there.

Shoveling manure on a farm. I didn't get a tip. Beat that.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally posted by: csf
Not to hijack the thread, but I found the site's claim that you have to tip waiters (not pizza guys) when ordering carry-out absolutely ludicrous (on their "when not to tip" section). The one really annoying thing I've noticed restaurants do lately is have a waiter take your order, just sit there and wait for the food to be slid up to the counter in a to-go bag, and then give you a receipt with a big TIP line on it. One of the main reasons to order carry-out is so you just serve and eat everything yourself and don't have to deal with the tip cost; like I'm going to pay someone to go back to the counter and hand me a bag full of food. It's amazing how pushy some people can be these days.

Tipping a waiter for carry-out is ridiculous.

 

[ScottyB]

Originally posted by: rbloedow
Name the worst situations you could ever be in, and a pizza delivery guy has been there.

Working 14 hour shifts at Burger King without any breaks and with our airconditioner broken so the kitchen was over 110deg for most of the summer.