Tiny houses should not have two stories or more

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sandorski

No Lifer
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Ok I'm edging toward a 200 sq ft or less limit for a tiny house. Like a city or county 200 sq ft limit for one as far as gaining zoning advantages, financial help or any other kind of government help concerning your tiny house. And also esthetically I think over 200 sq ft looks too big to me. Almost like a regular house. Which I already said in so many words.

One reason to lower it is for example if you had an 8 foot by 8 foot base to work with then you could have a 4 story tiny house if you were allowed only 256 sq ft. If that's the right way to approach the calculations. But a 4 story tiny house would not have the look and feel of a tiny house imo even at an 8'x8' base.

Another Edit: I want tiny houses to look small from the outside. That's the short version.


How about we just put a plexiglass lens fence around them?
 

michal1980

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No thanks, what a waste of money. Hardly any equity after dumping $20k+ into one of those especially once the fad runs its course. Perhaps this is more of an indicator that young people can't afford housing these days. Building a 150-200sqft chicken coop on a trailer to live in isn't chic, its kind of sad. :(

Not a dig at the OP or his reasons, just a general sense.

average house building costs are ~125 per sqft (google).

20k @125, gets you a 160sqft. If you get 200sqft, your doing better then average by alot.
 

OverVolt

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No thanks, what a waste of money. Hardly any equity after dumping $20k+ into one of those especially once the fad runs its course. Perhaps this is more of an indicator that young people can't afford housing these days. Building a 150-200sqft chicken coop on a trailer to live in isn't chic, its kind of sad. :(

Not a dig at the OP or his reasons, just a general sense.

Better a Chicken coop than with the parents IMO. Its chic and cool because it has to be and beats the alternative anyway.

I guess with electronics and stuff to keep you occupied in the small space its ok. You'll be forced to spend time outside, overall not too bad.
 

Pulsar

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Mar 3, 2003
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Whaaaat day is it? What day? Comeon.... Whaaaat day is it?

It's pointless OP day! What brand of toothpicks do you like best? Should we use mousse or hair gel or spray? Are you for or against allowing people to put garbage cans on the curb the day before trash day?
 

Dirigible

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Here's the thing... no one gives a damn.
You want tiny houses to look small from the outside? By all means, make your tiny house look small from the outside.
Other people's tiny houses are their own business. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.

I didn't give a damn. I thought people could make whatever size house they wanted and could call it "tiny" if they felt like it.

Then I started thinking about money.

I need to get "Tiny House" trademarked and have a certifying body giving out official "Tiny House" certifications for a hefty fee. There have to be a lot of rules for what counts for a "Tiny House" and I will sell training for certification agents to learn all the rules. I'll also audit them (again for a fee). Plus, I'll sue anyone who dares use "Tiny House" unofficially without paying for certification.

So the money flow:
1) Get paid for certification classes to "Tiny House" certifiers.
2) A percentage of the fee every time one of my certifiers certifies a "Tiny House."
3) Audit fees for my auditers* auditing the certifiers.
4) Damages for all my lawsuits against dirty trademark infringers.

In summary, I now understand the need for strict rules, and lots of them, regarding tiny houses.






*I can also probably squeeze more cash from the auditors...
 

OverVolt

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I didn't give a damn. I thought people could make whatever size house they wanted and could call it "tiny" if they felt like it.

Then I started thinking about money.

I need to get "Tiny House" trademarked and have a certifying body giving out official "Tiny House" certifications for a hefty fee. There have to be a lot of rules for what counts for a "Tiny House" and I will sell training for certification agents to learn all the rules. I'll also audit them (again for a fee). Plus, I'll sue anyone who dares use "Tiny House" unofficially without paying for certification.

So the money flow:
1) Get paid for certification classes to "Tiny House" certifiers.
2) A percentage of the fee every time one of my certifiers certifies a "Tiny House."
3) Audit fees for my auditers* auditing the certifiers.
4) Damages for all my lawsuits against dirty trademark infringers.

In summary, I now understand the need for strict rules, and lots of them, regarding tiny houses.






*I can also probably squeeze more cash from the auditors...

I dunno what if you get dragged into a lengthy court battle with the tree house people.
 

Belegost

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Feb 20, 2001
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Yeah, about every room is at least that big here. Even the

Just mentioned that because it's where I'm sitting I guess.

I didn't even notice the 20K for that earlier, I'd think you'd be better off getting a custom built shed at Home Depot or something like that, and fixing it up.

Yea, I was commenting on how small 250 sq. ft. really is. I lived in a 400 sq. ft. apt. when I was younger, and alone it was ok, but it got cramped when my gf moved in.
 

nakedfrog

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I didn't give a damn. I thought people could make whatever size house they wanted and could call it "tiny" if they felt like it.

Then I started thinking about money.

I need to get "Tiny House" trademarked and have a certifying body giving out official "Tiny House" certifications for a hefty fee. There have to be a lot of rules for what counts for a "Tiny House" and I will sell training for certification agents to learn all the rules. I'll also audit them (again for a fee). Plus, I'll sue anyone who dares use "Tiny House" unofficially without paying for certification.

So the money flow:
1) Get paid for certification classes to "Tiny House" certifiers.
2) A percentage of the fee every time one of my certifiers certifies a "Tiny House."
3) Audit fees for my auditers* auditing the certifiers.
4) Damages for all my lawsuits against dirty trademark infringers.

In summary, I now understand the need for strict rules, and lots of them, regarding tiny houses.






*I can also probably squeeze more cash from the auditors...
You sir, are a great American. As such, I will only levy a modest 10% fee on all profits you make, as the muse for your idea. Now get busy, I need those loot piles so I can get disgustingly corpulent and have nubile babes pretend they enjoy touching me.
 

Red Squirrel

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May 24, 2003
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I can't see a justification for not allowing it. Though I hate any kind of regulation that tells me what I can do in my own house, I should be able to pay money for a piece of land and build anything I want however I want. Even the whole thing with codes, it should be a guideline, not a requirement. Of course if someone half asses a build and does not follow code they'll have more trouble selling said house, but if you build your own it should not be illegal. But if you do stupid stuff then you will suffer if the whole thing comes crumbling down on you. It's ridiculous how heavily regulated we are these days even in the very own places we live in.

If I HAD to live in a big city, I would rather live in a tiny house than an apartment, but that said, I'll stick with the best of both worlds and not live in a big city, and have a full size house, yard, fresh air, and a 5 minute commute. :p
 

Humpy

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Isn't a tiny house just a fort?

Because forts are awesome but tiny house sounds gay.

When I was a kid we had a two story tree fort with a roof deck and a fire place. Yeah, it burnt down (up?) but then we built an even bigger fort on the ground with an improved fireplace and a garage for the riding lawnmower we stole.
 

MongGrel

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Yea, I was commenting on how small 250 sq. ft. really is. I lived in a 400 sq. ft. apt. when I was younger, and alone it was ok, but it got cramped when my gf moved in.

Yeah, been there and have done that myself in the past.

:thumbsup:
 

waffleironhead

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average house building costs are ~125 per sqft (google).

20k @125, gets you a 160sqft. If you get 200sqft, your doing better then average by alot.

That price is to pay someone to build for you. Most of these tiny houses are self built for cheap.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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The core purpose of the tiny house movement is to have less stuff and simplify your life. If you can't live with less stuff the tiny house movement is not for you.

If I was single I'd be all over this.
 

Kaido

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Feb 14, 2004
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If I lived alone, I'd probably do it.

If I was single & had no hobbies, I'd be all over one. I'm almost at that point now (not single but no hobbies, due to work time restrictions)...setup a tiny house with:

1. A Mr. Slim HVAC system (heat & A/C)
2. Projector & Roku (add some daytime-viewable screen paint & a gaming PC)
3. Chromebook (or a 2-in-1 tablet/laptop for versatility)
4. Flip-down Murphy bed (with a memory foam bed like a Casper or Leesa)
5. Instant Pot (single-pot cooking)
6. Macerating toilet
7. Supply of Soylent (if you want to go full-on minimalist haha)

But then it's like eh...why not just buy a motorhome...or a trailer home. Ready-to-go, budget-friendly used, provided you can live with the stigma. But on the plus side if you go with an RV, you can just pick up & move wherever you want. Anyway, I think it's a cool idea, you just need to live a certain lifestyle to fit within the living constraints.
 

clamum

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Feb 13, 2003
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That confused me as well. I had to go for a walk and clear my head of all the f after reading it.
Eh, I guess I didn't read it closely enough the first time. He was just contrasting the topic of tiny houses to national security matters. I do like that quote/image "my head is full of fuck" though, hahahaha.
 

bradly1101

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I live near this house (three stories!):

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Triumph

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I hate the tiny house "movement." You know, we always had people living in tiny houses, they're called white trash but you won't see them on HGTV so people changed the name to make it more marketable.

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DougK62

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I hate the tiny house "movement." You know, we always had people living in tiny houses, they're called white trash but you won't see them on HGTV so people changed the name to make it more marketable.

So folks with low income are white trash? How nice of you.