Time Warner Cable = THE MAN

[Piano Man]

Originally posted by: dud

How can this be legal?

This cracks me up. If you don't like it then leave. Netflix users and other (who will remain nameless) use an abnormally high amount of system resources and this has led to throttling. Pirates, Netflix users ... call them what you will, they suck up more then their fair share of the pie. My guess is that shortly you will be able to do all the dling you want ... just like in Canada but for a FEE.

Please give me another cable company I can switch to. Oh wait, I can't, because TWC has a monopoly in my city. Don't put Netflix and Pirates in the same category. One is completely legal, the other is not. I don't watch a billion movies. I'm just trying to watch 1 or 2 a week, but I can't.

What's next, TWC not letting me go to certain websites just because they don't like it? This is a slippery slope.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

Net Neutrality!!!!

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: MrChad

Originally posted by: Hacp
Verizon only charges 15 bucks for the lowest speed dsl.

NetZero charges 10 bucks for dial-up. What's your point?

My point is that the fixed costs shouldn't be high enough to justify these 40-50 dollar bills we get every month for throttled service. Time Warner makes hundreds of millions each quarter. If it just puts half of that amount into new capacity, then it won't need to throttle legitimate services like netflix(and wow patches -_-).

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Piano Man

Please give me another cable company I can switch to. Oh wait, I can't, because TWC has a monopoly in my city. Don't put Netflix and Pirates in the same category. One is completely legal, the other is not. I don't watch a billion movies. I'm just trying to watch 1 or 2 a week, but I can't.

What's next, TWC not letting me go to certain websites just because they don't like it? This is a slippery slope.

Don't panic and play conspiracy theory. Just file a complaint with the FCC. They take this shit very seriously and if there is any unreasonable network management going on they will stop it. Right now you just have conjecture and what a CSR told you. No facts.

 

[Piano Man]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Piano Man

Please give me another cable company I can switch to. Oh wait, I can't, because TWC has a monopoly in my city. Don't put Netflix and Pirates in the same category. One is completely legal, the other is not. I don't watch a billion movies. I'm just trying to watch 1 or 2 a week, but I can't.

What's next, TWC not letting me go to certain websites just because they don't like it? This is a slippery slope.

Don't panic and play conspiracy theory. Just file a complaint with the FCC. They take this shit very seriously and if there is any unreasonable network management going on they will stop it. Right now you just have conjecture and what a CSR told you. No facts.

Sweet, thanks!!. Do you know of any previous rulings or such that would show that the FCC doesn't put up with this?

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Piano Man

Sweet, thanks!!. Do you know of any previous rulings or such that would show that the FCC doesn't put up with this?

Comcast and P2P comes to mind. Before that there were a few with VOIP. Or you could raise the issue at dslreports.com and let that bunch of dribble mouthed freaks slobber all over it.

 

[TruePaige]

All network traffic should be treated equally.

 

[SunnyD]

Reasonable network management. If you don't like the way they manage their network, get off it.

That being said - it's lame. They are scared because of how much money they're losing by people turning off their TV's.

Originally posted by: Piano Man
I wonder if TWC will disconnect the TV portion of the cable. I'd hate to have to give them any money at all. Unfortunately I can't get satellite from my building.

That's what Hulu.com and CBS.com and ABC.com and FOX.com are for (along with a handful of other cable-network sites).

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: TruePaige
All network traffic should be treated equally.

Negative. You do not want that. That is like going to the dark ages of the internet. You can't have quality voice, video and data without quality of service.

 

[ric1287]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: TruePaige
All network traffic should be treated equally.

Negative. You do not want that. That is like going to the dark ages of the internet. You can't have quality voice, video and data without quality of service.

The problem is who is deciding what is "important". Netflix? nah not important, we'll give priority to our own services so people have to use our stuff

 

[frostedflakes]

If they are in fact throttling Netflix, that's a pretty blatant network neutrality violation. Contact the FCC, Electronic Frontier Foundation, and any other net neutrality watchdog group you can think of.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: frostedflakes
If they are in fact throttling Netflix, that's a pretty blatant network neutrality violation. Contact the FCC, Electronic Frontier Foundation, and any other net neutrality watchdog group you can think of.

This.

 

[zoiks]

Originally posted by: Modelworks
The reason they are doing this is clear:

http://www.dslreports.com/show...an-Broadband-TV-100998

Comcast, Time Warner Plan Broadband TV

According to a report in today's Wall Street Journal, both Time Warner Cable and Comcast are working with broadcasters on plans to deliver their customers TV programming via the Internet at no additional charge. According to the Journal's sources, the companies are concerned about the proliferation of free video content on the Internet, and are trying to adapt their business models.

As usual, ceaselessly-quoted Sanford C. Bernstein analyst Craig Moffett gets flushed and excited over the concept, telling the Journal the idea "kills two birds with one stone." Mr. Moffett apparently is suggesting the plan would lure in new subscribers, while giving cable an advantage over telcoTV or satellite. But with so much content already available for free online, it doesn't seem like it would accomplish either.

While the idea could be seen as a nice value added service for those who have no plans to cancel cable TV, it also doesn't really replicate the functionality of a Slingbox unless all content is mirrored and available. It's also not entirely clear how this would prevent customer defections, since customers who cut the cord and flock to piracy or legal systems like Hulu do so because they're free and there's either limited or no advertisements.

For the moment there's more questions (a huge one being whether this content counts against caps) than answers, until we have more detail. At the moment, this sounds like a belated attempt to appear cutting edge and capitalize on online video ad revenue by simply replicating existing online services. After all, any cable (or phone) company's worst nightmare is to be delegated to dumb pipe status by the time Internet video truly takes off.

Easier to sell their service if they make the other ones perform poorly.

Sounds like the Microsoft - Netscape fiasco all over again.

 

[Epic Fail]

Originally posted by: MrChad

Originally posted by: Hacp
Verizon only charges 15 bucks for the lowest speed dsl.

NetZero charges 10 bucks for dial-up. What's your point?

If the entire nation switches to NetZero, we can save billions and be out of this recession.

 

[SSSnail]

Dear telecom sympathizers, you've driven on the roads more than ANYONE in your cities, please make checks for extra road usage payable to Sssnail Inc., and deliver at once. You've also breath more oxygen than anyone on your blocks, please refrain from doing so between the hours of 6AM - 8AM, Monday to Friday. Thank you.

In case you're still clinging on to your failed arguments, here's why it's stupid. I paid for availability of the service at advertised speed, telecom's job is to PROVIDE that service. What I do with that service is NONE of your business, because I paid for it. That is why they already have tiered service, such as $10/mo for being able to look at porn pics, one line at a time to $100/mo instant HD pron vids quality service.

The price difference is why you paid for the service. Any and all further limiting of $100/mo service is just pure BULLLLLLSHIITTTTT!!! Take that and shove it up your tubes. (Price are not to scale and are subject to change).

 

[ric1287]

Originally posted by: SSSnail
Dear telecom sympathizers, you've driven on the roads more than ANYONE in your cities, please make checks for extra road usage payable to Sssnail Inc., and deliver at once. You've also breath more oxygen than anyone on your blocks, please refrain from doing so between the hours of 6AM - 8AM, Monday to Friday. Thank you.

In case you're still clinging on to your failed arguments, here's why it's stupid. I paid for availability of the service at advertised speed, telecom's job is to PROVIDE that service. What I do with that service is NONE of your business, because I paid for it. That is why they already have tiered service, such as $10/mo for being able to look at porn pics, one line at a time to $100/mo instant HD pron vids quality service.

The price difference is why you paid for the service. Any and all further limiting of $100/mo service is just pure BULLLLLLSHIITTTTT!!! Take that and shove it up your tubes. (Price are not to scale and are subject to change).

nope, you're wrong. If you expect quality service you should have to pay for a business connection at $500 a month. Isn't it obvious? The internet is only for checking email, anything more and you are killing the poor little isp's.

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: SSSnail
Dear telecom sympathizers, you've driven on the roads more than ANYONE in your cities, please make checks for extra road usage payable to Sssnail Inc., and deliver at once. You've also breath more oxygen than anyone on your blocks, please refrain from doing so between the hours of 6AM - 8AM, Monday to Friday. Thank you.

In case you're still clinging on to your failed arguments, here's why it's stupid. I paid for availability of the service at advertised speed, telecom's job is to PROVIDE that service. What I do with that service is NONE of your business, because I paid for it. That is why they already have tiered service, such as $10/mo for being able to look at porn pics, one line at a time to $100/mo instant HD pron vids quality service.

The price difference is why you paid for the service. Any and all further limiting of $100/mo service is just pure BULLLLLLSHIITTTTT!!! Take that and shove it up your tubes. (Price are not to scale and are subject to change).

nope, you're wrong. If you expect quality service you should have to pay for a business connection at $500 a month. Isn't it obvious? The internet is only for checking email, anything more and you are killing the poor little isp's.

Heh... that sounds like something spidey07 would say

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Thanks alot, pirates!

a lot = 2 words.

 

[ric1287]

Originally posted by: ultimatebob

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: SSSnail
Dear telecom sympathizers, you've driven on the roads more than ANYONE in your cities, please make checks for extra road usage payable to Sssnail Inc., and deliver at once. You've also breath more oxygen than anyone on your blocks, please refrain from doing so between the hours of 6AM - 8AM, Monday to Friday. Thank you.

In case you're still clinging on to your failed arguments, here's why it's stupid. I paid for availability of the service at advertised speed, telecom's job is to PROVIDE that service. What I do with that service is NONE of your business, because I paid for it. That is why they already have tiered service, such as $10/mo for being able to look at porn pics, one line at a time to $100/mo instant HD pron vids quality service.

The price difference is why you paid for the service. Any and all further limiting of $100/mo service is just pure BULLLLLLSHIITTTTT!!! Take that and shove it up your tubes. (Price are not to scale and are subject to change).

nope, you're wrong. If you expect quality service you should have to pay for a business connection at $500 a month. Isn't it obvious? The internet is only for checking email, anything more and you are killing the poor little isp's.

Heh... that sounds like something spidey07 would say

where you think I got the inspiration?

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: dud

How can this be legal?

This cracks me up. If you don't like it then leave. Netflix users and other (who will remain nameless) use an abnormally high amount of system resources and this has led to throttling. Pirates, Netflix users ... call them what you will, they suck up more then their fair share of the pie.

The problem is that in all the broadband commercials I see, they show people watching video online to brag about how fast their connection is. Why would they show people watching movies online if they're going to throttle people for doing it? Isn't that false advertising?

 

[Wheezer]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Thanks alot, pirates!

#1 alot= a lot (two words)

#2 there is more that just pirates causing this:

Legal music downloads
Legal movie downloads/streaming
Legal use of broad band by students for school
Legal use of broadband by businesses

so as usage goes up, yes, even legal usage so does the price..kind of a supply/demand thing.

#3 you're welcome.

 

[polarmystery]

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: SSSnail
Dear telecom sympathizers, you've driven on the roads more than ANYONE in your cities, please make checks for extra road usage payable to Sssnail Inc., and deliver at once. You've also breath more oxygen than anyone on your blocks, please refrain from doing so between the hours of 6AM - 8AM, Monday to Friday. Thank you.

In case you're still clinging on to your failed arguments, here's why it's stupid. I paid for availability of the service at advertised speed, telecom's job is to PROVIDE that service. What I do with that service is NONE of your business, because I paid for it. That is why they already have tiered service, such as $10/mo for being able to look at porn pics, one line at a time to $100/mo instant HD pron vids quality service.

The price difference is why you paid for the service. Any and all further limiting of $100/mo service is just pure BULLLLLLSHIITTTTT!!! Take that and shove it up your tubes. (Price are not to scale and are subject to change).

nope, you're wrong. If you expect quality service you should have to pay for a business connection at $500 a month. Isn't it obvious? The internet is only for checking email, anything more and you are killing the poor little isp's.

FAIL

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Wow, sounds shady as fuck if they're going to start throttling Netflix + Hulu + etc. so that they can start pushing their own services. Reeks of monopoly-ish illegal stuff. Whine to EFF, DSLReports, etc., they'll do something.

 

[ChaoZ]

Originally posted by: SSSnail
Dear telecom sympathizers, you've driven on the roads more than ANYONE in your cities, please make checks for extra road usage payable to Sssnail Inc., and deliver at once. You've also breath more oxygen than anyone on your blocks, please refrain from doing so between the hours of 6AM - 8AM, Monday to Friday. Thank you.

In case you're still clinging on to your failed arguments, here's why it's stupid. I paid for availability of the service at advertised speed, telecom's job is to PROVIDE that service. What I do with that service is NONE of your business, because I paid for it. That is why they already have tiered service, such as $10/mo for being able to look at porn pics, one line at a time to $100/mo instant HD pron vids quality service.

The price difference is why you paid for the service. Any and all further limiting of $100/mo service is just pure BULLLLLLSHIITTTTT!!! Take that and shove it up your tubes. (Price are not to scale and are subject to change).

:thumbsup:

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Wow, sounds shady as fuck if they're going to start throttling Netflix + Hulu + etc. so that they can start pushing their own services. Reeks of monopoly-ish illegal stuff. Whine to EFF, DSLReports, etc., they'll do something.

Yeah, i would start bitching to the internet watchdog groups.

Ive heard of this but i have not had it happen with my time warner connection yet.