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Time to write in Ron Paul

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SilthDraeth said:
Down with the two party system!
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Write in Ron Paul why? He's still a senile old racist bastard, with completely whacked economic ideas. He's clinging on to wacked-out stuff like going back to a gold standard currency despite the fact that would be completely unfeasible in a globalized economy.

Anyone with half a brain understands that latching the worth of your currency and by extension your whole economy to the availability and price of gold is a super bad idea. It gimps the whole economic system. If the US was an isolated island maybe it could work, but it is not; the US is the linchpin in the whole global market and thus such an idea is just plain unworkable.

There's not enough gold on this whole planet to make such an idea work. Anyone hoping for Ron Paul for president is a huge fool. Besides, Paul's so old he stands a good chance of dying while in office. Try to elect a guy who doesn't stand with one foot in the grave already, mkay?
 
FaaR said:
Write in Ron Paul why? He's still a senile old racist bastard, with completely whacked economic ideas. He's clinging on to wacked-out stuff like going back to a gold standard currency despite the fact that would be completely unfeasible in a globalized economy.

Anyone with half a brain understands that latching the worth of your currency and by extension your whole economy to the availability and price of gold is a super bad idea. It gimps the whole economic system. If the US was an isolated island maybe it could work, but it is not; the US is the linchpin in the whole global market and thus such an idea is just plain unworkable.

There's not enough gold on this whole planet to make such an idea work. Anyone hoping for Ron Paul for president is a huge fool. Besides, Paul's so old he stands a good chance of dying while in office. Try to elect a guy who doesn't stand with one foot in the grave already, mkay?
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And for the gold bug comments, we have not had a real gold standard since 1913. If we did have a gold standard goods and services would just cost much much less (cost being a relative term, the dollar amount would just plummet).

Policy wise, Paul said he would like to just allow the dollar to compete and be traded with with hard assets, be it gold, silver, etc 1913-1971 . Currently it is illegal to do so. He never said he would go back onto the gold standard if he became president because he knew he couldn't even if he tried.

The age comment is cute, as I saw it he was much healthier than many of his opponents in the primaries.
 
nextJin said:
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And for the gold bug comments, we have not had a real gold standard since 1913. If we did have a gold standard goods and services would just cost much much less (cost being a relative term, the dollar amount would just plummet).

Policy wise, Paul said he would like to just allow the dollar to compete and be traded with with hard assets, be it gold, silver, etc 1913-1971 . Currently it is illegal to do so. He never said he would go back onto the gold standard if he became president because he knew he couldn't even if he tried.

The age comment is cute, as I saw it he was much healthier than many of his opponents in the primaries.
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Sorry I can only reply to you, but I am on an iPad and that makes it difficult to reply to multiple people.
The competing currencies wouldn't last under the constitution... it has too many enumerated powers. Jefferson tried it when he ended the silver standard and Madison had war declared less than six years later and everyone had to accept the money created by the govt during that war because it was spent so much and borrowed so much. As for even the best gold standard, the van buren independent treasury system, wouldn't work either because it would be partially nationalized due to collection.

Dr. Paul did a good job educating the people and it is a shame too many think that returning to the constitution could solve the problems we have. Even if all of the post counter revolution amendments were repealed, the supreme court and the executive power would still stand in the way of the people.

Once a Republican becomes president, it will be too late for secession. I would advise you to renounce your citizenship and leave the country while you still can.
 
FaaR said:
Write in Ron Paul why? He's still a senile old racist bastard, with completely whacked economic ideas. He's clinging on to wacked-out stuff like going back to a gold standard currency despite the fact that would be completely unfeasible in a globalized economy.

Anyone with half a brain understands that latching the worth of your currency and by extension your whole economy to the availability and price of gold is a super bad idea. It gimps the whole economic system. If the US was an isolated island maybe it could work, but it is not; the US is the linchpin in the whole global market and thus such an idea is just plain unworkable.

There's not enough gold on this whole planet to make such an idea work. Anyone hoping for Ron Paul for president is a huge fool. Besides, Paul's so old he stands a good chance of dying while in office. Try to elect a guy who doesn't stand with one foot in the grave already, mkay?
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the us gov's current policies was what " gloablized the economy" and govt doesn't work period. Once you don't live in a state anymore, then your gold won't be too little and it won't be too much. The people not governed/conquered would be at a trade advantage over those who were bound to tender legislation.
 
WelshBloke said:
While I'm not convinced either way about the racist bit I don't really see how a picture of him meeting some black people 40 years ago proves anything.
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The picture was from his old practice where he routinely provided health care to minorities for free who were turned away by other prominent white doctors at the time. Hundreds of his old patients have came forward to slam that claim.

He is also one of the only representatives who actively tried to change non violent crime laws in which tens of thousands of minorities are mostly victims of. There was an actual debate a good while ago where he was speaking on this topic. The forum was focused on minority rights and the such. It wasn't a political debate just a forum with discussion I might be able to find it.

People just confuse individual liberty beliefs with being a racist. Paul does not believe in group rights as he believes all individuals are entitled to the same rights as everyone else.

Folks can attack his policies all day, it's politics and it needs to be discussed but when people can only ever bring up racism its pretty telling.
 
hal2kilo said:
Most of you libertarians (I'll be nice) wouldn't vote for Obama anyway, so knock yourself out.:thumbsup:
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But a vote for a 3rd party is a vote for Obama and exactly why many will, they can vote for Obama and claim they never did.

Gary Johnson will get Obama re-elected just like Ross Perot got Clinton elected.
 
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Save the paper, ink, the stamp and your breath. Don't vote if you truly are not happy with the choices the establishment has given you.
 
Nemesis 1 said:
IF 3rd party could win I would vote for it depending on the man . But this election 3rd party guy RON paul not running , He is the only one right now could pull it off. But not happening . SO pick your damn poison and live with it . 3rd party vote in THIS election is a retard vote.
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If he could have pulled it off, he would have run 3rd party. But guess what, he didn't. Graud!!!
 
Capt Caveman said:
If he could have pulled it off, he would have run 3rd party. But guess what, he didn't. Graud!!!
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More ignorance, it never ceases to amaze me how many people will just repeat, or make up complete and utter bullshit. He could have EASILY run on a 3rd party ticket, many, many, many wanted him to, but he said he was not going to, period. If he didn't get the nomination as a republican, he wasn't going to run 3rd party, he said this MANY times.
 
xj0hnx said:
More ignorance, it never ceases to amaze me how many people will just repeat, or make up complete and utter bullshit. He could have EASILY run on a 3rd party ticket, many, many, many wanted him to, but he said he was not going to, period. If he didn't get the nomination as a republican, he wasn't going to run 3rd party, he said this MANY times.
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I can confirm this. Many speculated it was out of concern that the GOP would take out their frustration on his son, but that's just a rumor.

Anyway, argue about Paul all you like, but write-in votes are pointless. Might as well be writing in Daffy Duck.
 
xj0hnx said:
More ignorance, it never ceases to amaze me how many people will just repeat, or make up complete and utter bullshit. He could have EASILY run on a 3rd party ticket, many, many, many wanted him to, but he said he was not going to, period. If he didn't get the nomination as a republican, he wasn't going to run 3rd party, he said this MANY times.
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What ignorance? The Graud guy said that Ron Paul could have pulled off a 3rd party win if he went 3rd party. So, you're saying that Ron Paul doesn't want to be President via 3rd party b/c he couldn't get the GOP nomination? Yeah, that makes sense.
 
xj0hnx said:
More ignorance, it never ceases to amaze me how many people will just repeat, or make up complete and utter bullshit. He could have EASILY run on a 3rd party ticket, many, many, many wanted him to, but he said he was not going to, period. If he didn't get the nomination as a republican, he wasn't going to run 3rd party, he said this MANY times.
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CharlesKozierok said:
I can confirm this. Many speculated it was out of concern that the GOP would take out their frustration on his son, but that's just a rumor.

Anyway, argue about Paul all you like, but write-in votes are pointless. Might as well be writing in Daffy Duck.
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Paul knew from experience that a third party run would not amount to anything and his main goal was to get his voice heard which he did. Many people dislike him from all walks of political life but his accomplishments are pretty remarkable considering everything.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=EafhhNpakq0

Without Paul there would have never been a Tea Party, a Liberty Movement, talk of Blowback, Interventionism, States rights, The Debt, etc. Most of his primary opponents even had to take his position on most of these issues.
 
You can write in Paul all you want, he's not running. He'll soon be retired.

Pick a new horse. Plenty of folks who are not Republican or Democrat.
 
Capt Caveman said:
Yeah, keep on telling yourself that Ron Paul would have had any chance 3rd party. And if he did, he wasn't smart enough to do it.
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Seriously, wtf are you talking about? Stop diverting from your lies. I never said anything about Ron Paul and a 3rd party run except to point out your lying about it. I knew a long time ago he wasn't going to run 3rd party, when he said so much over and over, yet the idiots like you keep talking about it.
 
xj0hnx said:
Seriously, wtf are you talking about? Stop diverting from your lies. I never said anything about Ron Paul and a 3rd party run except to point out your lying about it. I knew a long time ago he wasn't going to run 3rd party, when he said so much over and over, yet the idiots like you keep talking about it.
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Maybe if you actually read the post I was originally responding to, you wouldn't have made any comments. Who's the idiot? Yes, you.
 
I do have to give Paul props for pulling off the cult of personality thing and collecting millions off of a bunch of suckers.

All you guys did was fund his neocon whackjob Ayn Rand cultist son and lowered your credibility by excusing Ron Pauls racism like a bunch of lovestruck schoolgirls.

So desperate for a savior you guys fall for anything.
 
xj0hnx said:
Maybe you should try reading it. You were making up bullshit, and I called you on it.
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What bullshit? Yeah, keep on making yourself look stupid. Again, if Ron Paul thought he could win, he would have gone 3rd party but he didn't b/c he's not as stupid as his followers. But keep on going on with your bullshit.
 
The problem is that Johnson is almost as big a fool as Obomney. He's got nothing on Dr. Paul. I dont know wtf the libertarian party is thinking. That's part of why they only ever get 5%...
 
Capt Caveman said:
What bullshit? Yeah, keep on making yourself look stupid. Again, if Ron Paul thought he could win, he would have gone 3rd party but he didn't b/c he's not as stupid as his followers. But keep on going on with your bullshit.
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What bullshit? THIS bullshit. Ron Paul didn't even entertain a 3rd party run, he NEVER had plans to, it didn't have shit to do with him "thinking he could win". You are just repeating either something you made up, or a lie you heard somewhere.
 
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