Time to stock up on ARs/AKs and other fun weapons for real now...

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: SlickSnake

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Ok, well hobbies I have aren't based on an item specifically designed to kill another human. I guess that's the point to my question. And gun afficianados tend to be very touchy about it.

It's our Constitutional right, of course we get touchy about people treading on that.

Well, then the Constitution should include mortar launchers and bazookas too, right? If you can carry it, you should be able to own one, right? Wouldn't that be included in your loose standard of a firearm, Mr. Constitution? :roll:

And where exactly does a flame thrower fit in that worldview? Besides flaming away at your right to use any type of firearm made? Do you think they envisioned an assault rifle over 200 years ago? By that Constitutional standard, you should only be allowed to wield a one shot black powder musket, correct? Since that is all they had 200 years ago?

Here is what the Constitution GUARANTEES your RIGHT TO HAVE:

Antique 200 year old guns

I mean WTF already, NRA douchebags.

1. Explosives and incendiaries are not allowed because of public safety issues (well, there are many reasons, not all of which I agree with, but that's one that makes sense). If you use a flamethrower for self defense, you're liable to set your entire house on fire, and possibly your neighbor's house as well. If you store explosives on your property and they blow up, anyone else living near you is at risk as well.

2. By that logic (only muskets should be allowed), freedom of speech should only apply to printing presses and quill pens, since ballpoints, typewriters, and computers hadn't been invented yet. While we're at it, why not take away freedom of religious expression for any religion that wasn't around in the late 18th century. Bye bye, Mormonism! See ya, Scientology!

Hell, while we're transforming back to the status quos of the late 1700s, we should take away civil rights from black people and women too. I mean...they were around, but their rights certainly weren't.

 

[Jschmuck2]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: misle

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Ok, well hobbies I have aren't based on an item specifically designed to kill another human. I guess that's the point to my question. And gun afficianados tend to be very touchy about it.

I would say that most gun afficianados don't even think about killing another human. Responsible and safe gun owners follow Gun Safety Rules and do everything they can to prevent such things from happening. When you accuse them of being killers just because they own a firearm, well I can understand them being touchy.

I never accused anyone of anything, I was just saying that the object of their hobby is specifically designed to kill humans.

Youre wrong. Not entirely, but the exception doesnt make the rule., When it comes to Americans owning guns I would be willing to bet less than .5% of owners own one for the reason of killing someone. Now, you could argue owning one to protect one's property qualifies but I would ask you this: If someone broke into your house and threatened your wife, kids, property would you just tell them to hold on a sec while you call 911? Come on man. Guns are owned for sport and fun.

Your prediction about the election is forever immortalized in sig form.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: misle

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Ok, well hobbies I have aren't based on an item specifically designed to kill another human. I guess that's the point to my question. And gun afficianados tend to be very touchy about it.

I would say that most gun afficianados don't even think about killing another human. Responsible and safe gun owners follow Gun Safety Rules and do everything they can to prevent such things from happening. When you accuse them of being killers just because they own a firearm, well I can understand them being touchy.

I never accused anyone of anything, I was just saying that the object of their hobby is specifically designed to kill humans.

Youre wrong. Not entirely, but the exception doesnt make the rule., When it comes to Americans owning guns I would be willing to bet less than .5% of owners own one for the reason of killing someone. Now, you could argue owning one to protect one's property qualifies but I would ask you this: If someone broke into your house and threatened your wife, kids, property would you just tell them to hold on a sec while you call 911? Come on man. Guns are owned for sport and fun.

Here's where reading comprehension pays off. I never once said the REASON people own them is to kill people. I said that the gun's sole purpose (handgun, AR, etc.) is to kill another human being. Not to hunt for food, but to kill another human. That's where I have an issue/

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: misle

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Ok, well hobbies I have aren't based on an item specifically designed to kill another human. I guess that's the point to my question. And gun afficianados tend to be very touchy about it.

I would say that most gun afficianados don't even think about killing another human. Responsible and safe gun owners follow Gun Safety Rules and do everything they can to prevent such things from happening. When you accuse them of being killers just because they own a firearm, well I can understand them being touchy.

I never accused anyone of anything, I was just saying that the object of their hobby is specifically designed to kill humans.

Youre wrong. Not entirely, but the exception doesnt make the rule., When it comes to Americans owning guns I would be willing to bet less than .5% of owners own one for the reason of killing someone. Now, you could argue owning one to protect one's property qualifies but I would ask you this: If someone broke into your house and threatened your wife, kids, property would you just tell them to hold on a sec while you call 911? Come on man. Guns are owned for sport and fun.

Here's where reading comprehension pays off. I never once said the REASON people own them is to kill people. I said that the gun's sole purpose (handgun, AR, etc.) is to kill another human being. Not to hunt for food, but to kill another human. That's where I have an issue/

If you want to get that technical, guns aren't actually designed to kill people. Only to fire bullets. Most bullets, however, are designed to kill people.

Katanas are also weapons designed specifically to kill people, yet I don't see you saying that swordsmiths or sword collectors are weirdos for collecting killing machines. In fact, many admire them for their work and consider it an art form.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: misle

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Ok, well hobbies I have aren't based on an item specifically designed to kill another human. I guess that's the point to my question. And gun afficianados tend to be very touchy about it.

I would say that most gun afficianados don't even think about killing another human. Responsible and safe gun owners follow Gun Safety Rules and do everything they can to prevent such things from happening. When you accuse them of being killers just because they own a firearm, well I can understand them being touchy.

I never accused anyone of anything, I was just saying that the object of their hobby is specifically designed to kill humans.

Youre wrong. Not entirely, but the exception doesnt make the rule., When it comes to Americans owning guns I would be willing to bet less than .5% of owners own one for the reason of killing someone. Now, you could argue owning one to protect one's property qualifies but I would ask you this: If someone broke into your house and threatened your wife, kids, property would you just tell them to hold on a sec while you call 911? Come on man. Guns are owned for sport and fun.

Here's where reading comprehension pays off. I never once said the REASON people own them is to kill people. I said that the gun's sole purpose (handgun, AR, etc.) is to kill another human being. Not to hunt for food, but to kill another human. That's where I have an issue/

If you want to get that technical, guns aren't actually designed to kill people. Only to fire bullets. Most bullets, however, are designed to kill people.

Katanas are also weapons designed specifically to kill people, yet I don't see you saying that swordsmiths or sword collectors are weirdos for collecting killing machines. In fact, many admire them for their work and consider it an art form.

lolol

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Your prediction about the election is forever immortalized in sig form.

Too bad I cant always be right like so many others are. *shrug* Just remember MLB batting averages: Get it right 3/10 times and youre a hero. 4/10 and you are escalated to God status.

 

[SlickSnake]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: misle

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Ok, well hobbies I have aren't based on an item specifically designed to kill another human. I guess that's the point to my question. And gun afficianados tend to be very touchy about it.

I would say that most gun afficianados don't even think about killing another human. Responsible and safe gun owners follow Gun Safety Rules and do everything they can to prevent such things from happening. When you accuse them of being killers just because they own a firearm, well I can understand them being touchy.

I never accused anyone of anything, I was just saying that the object of their hobby is specifically designed to kill humans.

Youre wrong. Not entirely, but the exception doesnt make the rule., When it comes to Americans owning guns I would be willing to bet less than .5% of owners own one for the reason of killing someone. Now, you could argue owning one to protect one's property qualifies but I would ask you this: If someone broke into your house and threatened your wife, kids, property would you just tell them to hold on a sec while you call 911? Come on man. Guns are owned for sport and fun.

I guess I'm in that .5% then. Along with at least 20 other people I know who own them JUST for self defense, and don't regularly fire them for hunting or just for shits and giggles "sports and fun".

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Originally posted by: SlickSnake

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Ok, well hobbies I have aren't based on an item specifically designed to kill another human. I guess that's the point to my question. And gun afficianados tend to be very touchy about it.

It's our Constitutional right, of course we get touchy about people treading on that.

Well, then the Constitution should include mortar launchers and bazookas too, right? If you can carry it, you should be able to own one, right? Wouldn't that be included in your loose standard of a firearm, Mr. Constitution? :roll:

And where exactly does a flame thrower fit in that worldview? Besides flaming away at your right to use any type of firearm made? Do you think they envisioned an assault rifle over 200 years ago? By that Constitutional standard, you should only be allowed to wield a one shot black powder musket, correct? Since that is all they had 200 years ago?

Here is what the Constitution GUARANTEES your RIGHT TO HAVE:

Antique 200 year old guns

I mean WTF already, NRA douchebags.

Flamethrowers are completely unregulated and available to criminals. How often do you hear reports about it?

 

[SlickSnake]

Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones

Originally posted by: SlickSnake

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Ok, well hobbies I have aren't based on an item specifically designed to kill another human. I guess that's the point to my question. And gun afficianados tend to be very touchy about it.

It's our Constitutional right, of course we get touchy about people treading on that.

Well, then the Constitution should include mortar launchers and bazookas too, right? If you can carry it, you should be able to own one, right? Wouldn't that be included in your loose standard of a firearm, Mr. Constitution? :roll:

And where exactly does a flame thrower fit in that worldview? Besides flaming away at your right to use any type of firearm made? Do you think they envisioned an assault rifle over 200 years ago? By that Constitutional standard, you should only be allowed to wield a one shot black powder musket, correct? Since that is all they had 200 years ago?

Here is what the Constitution GUARANTEES your RIGHT TO HAVE:

Antique 200 year old guns

I mean WTF already, NRA douchebags.

Flamethrowers are completely unregulated and available to criminals. How often do you hear reports about it?

Some states like California regulate them. And with their forest fire problems, I can understand why, too.

Car Flame Thrower for Personal Protection

Man Used Homemade Flamethrower to Torch Parents

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: SlickSnake

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: misle

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Ok, well hobbies I have aren't based on an item specifically designed to kill another human. I guess that's the point to my question. And gun afficianados tend to be very touchy about it.

I would say that most gun afficianados don't even think about killing another human. Responsible and safe gun owners follow Gun Safety Rules and do everything they can to prevent such things from happening. When you accuse them of being killers just because they own a firearm, well I can understand them being touchy.

I never accused anyone of anything, I was just saying that the object of their hobby is specifically designed to kill humans.

Youre wrong. Not entirely, but the exception doesnt make the rule., When it comes to Americans owning guns I would be willing to bet less than .5% of owners own one for the reason of killing someone. Now, you could argue owning one to protect one's property qualifies but I would ask you this: If someone broke into your house and threatened your wife, kids, property would you just tell them to hold on a sec while you call 911? Come on man. Guns are owned for sport and fun.

I guess I'm in that .5% then. Along with at least 20 other people I know who own them JUST for self defense, and don't regularly fire them for hunting or just for shits and giggles "sports and fun".

Well we run in different crowds. EVERY person I know and have met who own guns JUST for self defense fires them regularly at the range to stay fresh. Even snipers practice so I would encourage you to get out there a couple times a month and fire at least 10-20 rounds, go home, clean it, and pack it away safely. Its good practice to practice and keep your eye.

 

[SlickSnake]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: SlickSnake

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

Originally posted by: misle

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Ok, well hobbies I have aren't based on an item specifically designed to kill another human. I guess that's the point to my question. And gun afficianados tend to be very touchy about it.

I would say that most gun afficianados don't even think about killing another human. Responsible and safe gun owners follow Gun Safety Rules and do everything they can to prevent such things from happening. When you accuse them of being killers just because they own a firearm, well I can understand them being touchy.

I never accused anyone of anything, I was just saying that the object of their hobby is specifically designed to kill humans.

Youre wrong. Not entirely, but the exception doesnt make the rule., When it comes to Americans owning guns I would be willing to bet less than .5% of owners own one for the reason of killing someone. Now, you could argue owning one to protect one's property qualifies but I would ask you this: If someone broke into your house and threatened your wife, kids, property would you just tell them to hold on a sec while you call 911? Come on man. Guns are owned for sport and fun.

I guess I'm in that .5% then. Along with at least 20 other people I know who own them JUST for self defense, and don't regularly fire them for hunting or just for shits and giggles "sports and fun".

Well we run in different crowds. EVERY person I know and have met who own guns JUST for self defense fires them regularly at the range to stay fresh. Even snipers practice so I would encourage you to get out there a couple times a month and fire at least 10-20 rounds, go home, clean it, and pack it away safely. Its good practice to practice and keep your eye.

I have a high velocity pellet rifle I fire regularly at skunks, does that count? And my 12 gauge Winchester short barrel don't exactly lend itself to target practice, unless you wish to stand directly in front of it and see what happens, lol.

 

[Squisher]

Originally posted by: SlickSnake

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: ericlp

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Yea, stock up now, so when they ban them later and you have to turn them over for free or face a felony, and you will lose the cash you spent to buy them. Great idea, man.

Hope you got a nice deep hole dug in your backyard to hide them all in if you bought them with no background checks at a gun show, too.

What's the point of having an assault rifle if you can't use it and have to hide it to own it or go to jail?

I dunno why you'd want any thing but a shot gun... I was in the army and I could care less about AR-15's etc...etc... Shot guns rule for home security any day. But, what's your point in buying them now and turning them over later unless you plan on breaking the laws?

What is your real motive?

Because theyre fun to shoot Thats like saying why would you want a car other than a Yugo? I mean...it just gets you from point A to point B right?

Since the car comparison comes up constantly with the gun one (what a shocker you beer drinking, car racing, macho gun nuts) I think they should ban certain types of sport vehicles, like Mustang or Camero V8s (or ANY high output sport vehicles or engines) for the use of people who are under 21, or maybe even under 30. It is a fact young people speeding and racing cars illegally are now the number 1 cause of death among those under 25. And they are not just killing themselves, they are killing whole car loads of friends with them, and crashing into innocent victims and killing them at the same time. Until their brains catch up with their balls, teenagers and young adults have no business driving any car that does over 70 MPH. Are you happy now?

Teen Drivers: Fact Sheet:

Vehicle crashes are the leading cause of death for U.S. teens, accounting for more than one in three deaths in this age group. In 2005, twelve teens ages 16 to 19 died every day from motor vehicle injuries.

Just where are you going with this Big Brother?

No one over 200 lbs. can buy a donut?

No more than 8 oz. of alcohol per day?

Mandatory rectal temperatures taken before dispensing cold remedies?

 

[SlickSnake]

Originally posted by: Squisher

Originally posted by: SlickSnake

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: ericlp

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Yea, stock up now, so when they ban them later and you have to turn them over for free or face a felony, and you will lose the cash you spent to buy them. Great idea, man.

Hope you got a nice deep hole dug in your backyard to hide them all in if you bought them with no background checks at a gun show, too.

What's the point of having an assault rifle if you can't use it and have to hide it to own it or go to jail?

I dunno why you'd want any thing but a shot gun... I was in the army and I could care less about AR-15's etc...etc... Shot guns rule for home security any day. But, what's your point in buying them now and turning them over later unless you plan on breaking the laws?

What is your real motive?

Because theyre fun to shoot Thats like saying why would you want a car other than a Yugo? I mean...it just gets you from point A to point B right?

Since the car comparison comes up constantly with the gun one (what a shocker you beer drinking, car racing, macho gun nuts) I think they should ban certain types of sport vehicles, like Mustang or Camero V8s (or ANY high output sport vehicles or engines) for the use of people who are under 21, or maybe even under 30. It is a fact young people speeding and racing cars illegally are now the number 1 cause of death among those under 25. And they are not just killing themselves, they are killing whole car loads of friends with them, and crashing into innocent victims and killing them at the same time. Until their brains catch up with their balls, teenagers and young adults have no business driving any car that does over 70 MPH. Are you happy now?

Teen Drivers: Fact Sheet:

Vehicle crashes are the leading cause of death for U.S. teens, accounting for more than one in three deaths in this age group. In 2005, twelve teens ages 16 to 19 died every day from motor vehicle injuries.

Just where are you going with this Big Brother?

No one over 200 lbs. can buy a donut?

No more than 8 oz. of alcohol per day?

Mandatory rectal temperatures taken before dispensing cold remedies?

I'm replying to the countless mentions of fast car replies as some sort of lame excuse used when anyone mentions gun control, little brother. If it's not mentioned in this thread, it will be mentioned in a million others, and already has been mentioned a million times, too. I think the NRA brainwashes gun nuts with this rebuttal. They must include it in their NRA literature.

And "Mandatory rectal temperatures taken before dispensing cold remedies?" sounds pretty hot and is a great idea. Would that be a new job opening (LOL!) or would it be auto stick next to the free blood pressure machines at Walmart?

And just what were you planning on doing to the sweet and innocent donut hole? "Just put the donut down, and walk away, this is your only warning!."

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
What the fuck is with the perpetual hard on people have for guns? Born with a 2" penis? Picked on in school? Jesus, I just don't get it.

Its a hobby. Whats so hard to understand? Tell us your hobbies we'll scratch out heads and wonder WTF is wrong with you wasting time and money....

That really is the gist of it. I have no weapons (anybody who can convince MrsSkoorb to let me get one, by all means), but I have hobbies that others don't understand.

I used to think people with a half dozen guns were gun nuts and crazy and well that is true, but I have more than that many radio control planes and people who see my collection probably think I have a problem. Maybe I do but I haven't hurt anybody yet and most gun owners never hurt anything beyond a target, either.

Separate hobbies, though, but being a "gun nut" is not really all that nutty.

 

[brencat]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I used to think people with a half dozen guns were gun nuts and crazy and well that is true, but I have more than that many radio control planes and people who see my collection probably think I have a problem. Maybe I do but I haven't hurt anybody yet and most gun owners never hurt anything beyond a target, either.

Separate hobbies, though, but being a "gun nut" is not really all that nutty.

Radio controlled planes are damn fun -- was into that as a teen, including model rockets too. I have more than a half dozen guns so I guess that makes me a 'nut' per Skoorb.

Errr...no. I have been shooting since I was 10 so that means well over 25 years now -- strictly targets (rifle/pistol) and trapshooting, no hunting (though I have a few rifles as collectibles). Computers and guns are my hobby.

If I ever move to PA, I will definitely look to buy an AR variant -- that too will be for competition but also handy in case of the 'end of the world' (WW3, alien landing, or Katrina II).

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
What the fuck is with the perpetual hard on people have for guns? Born with a 2" penis? Picked on in school? Jesus, I just don't get it.

Its a hobby. Whats so hard to understand? Tell us your hobbies we'll scratch out heads and wonder WTF is wrong with you wasting time and money....

That really is the gist of it. I have no weapons (anybody who can convince MrsSkoorb to let me get one, by all means), but I have hobbies that others don't understand.

I used to think people with a half dozen guns were gun nuts and crazy and well that is true, but I have more than that many radio control planes and people who see my collection probably think I have a problem. Maybe I do but I haven't hurt anybody yet and most gun owners never hurt anything beyond a target, either.

Separate hobbies, though, but being a "gun nut" is not really all that nutty.

more than 1 radio controlled plane has killed a person (not even talking about the dod's planes, more pylon and pattern).....you are into one seriously hardcore hobby man, you are a nut. i haen't flown in a long time, but have done all the r/c hobbies except helo, which i am currently contemplating w/ these cheap electros w/ a lipo and brushless setup hitting the market lately. again, just another hobby for me like shooting....

 

[OFFascist]

Originally posted by: Skitzer
I agree ...... why would anyone need an automatic assault rifle?
I have a shotgun and a 30-30 for hunting and a 357 revolver for home security. Why would you need anything more than that?

You know this is still America right? In this country its okay to buy things you dont need, you can buy things just because you want them. I'm willing to bet your home is filled with lots of things you dont "need."

Also most gun owners are not hunters. Do you really "need" to hunt, or do you just like doing it? It would be pretty hypocritical to put down people who want guns for different sports than your own.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: deftron
First, gun bans are stupid and I hope it doesn't become a Democratic agenda.


That said, I don't understand the fascination with ar-15s / AK-47s / M-16's / etc

Is it the taboo factor?
Military "tough guy" image?




If you want defense, a handgun or shotgun is way better.


If you want sport, a deer rifle is way more accurate.

penis extension.
I am a gun owner and advocate. But sometimes the gun threads on here are pathetic. They either all sound paranoid or they are all jerk-off threads.

I knew a guy who I used to shoot at the same club with who was very much like some of the "gun owners" on AT. All they could talk about was the next gun they needed and why they wanted it and how some liberal was trying to block them and where they were going to put it to shoot whatever minority was going to break in (mexicans were the usu). Thank god he didn't have kids because there were probably guns laying around everywhere and most likely in all sorts of disrepair because he barely took care of them.

To him and many of the people I clump into this category, guns are toys. They need the biggest and the silliest. I am not saying it isn't fun to shoot off some of them. It is a hell of a time and I really enjoy it, but to them it is a joke and it makes the rest of us look bad. And let's not forget it always seems like these jerk offs were also some of the worst shots.

 

[Skitzer]

Originally posted by: OFFascist

Originally posted by: Skitzer
I agree ...... why would anyone need an automatic assault rifle?
I have a shotgun and a 30-30 for hunting and a 357 revolver for home security. Why would you need anything more than that?

You know this is still America right? In this country its okay to buy things you dont need, you can buy things just because you want them. I'm willing to bet your home is filled with lots of things you dont "need."

Also most gun owners are not hunters. Do you really "need" to hunt, or do you just like doing it? It would be pretty hypocritical to put down people who want guns for different sports than your own.

I guess I'm just trying to be logical here ..... of course you can buy anything you want and if you're very well off you can buy a lot of things you don't need.
I have nothing in my home I don't need, (according to my definition of what is practical and important to me). I hunt for sport and I eat what I kill.
I am not putting anyone down who owns guns for reasons of collections, sport or hunting, I just can't get my mind around why anyone would truly NEED an assault rifle.
I support the right to bear arms wholeheartedly but I question the NEED for certain "types" of arms. This is just my opinion on the matter and I have a right to voice it just as you have a right to voice yours.