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Time for me to buy a new car - interested in opinions

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Originally posted by: sniperruff
so what if a mustang gt is faster than the volvo. you'd feel like you are riding in a bus with its all plastic interior ...

the RX8 is a great car. the top gear reviewed it and even jeremy clarkson said it was a great car and a load of fun to drive. the manual model goes well under $30k, has a very nicely designed leather interior, has a smart body design, and it revs to 9000rpm... NINE THOUSAND FREAKING RPM... imagine how that would sound...

the only negatives i can think about it is that it has poor fuel economy, and would probably cost a lot to fix.

but it would be a lot more fun than the mustang. all the mustang got is a massive V8, which has equally poor fuel economy, handles like a boat, and it is made by ford...

fun wise, i'd go for the RX8, which looks better, handles better, is built in japan, has an insane exhaust tone, and a much better interior

if you want to save a little consider the mazdaspeed miata too. stunning little car, now with turbo...

psst.. Ford owns part of Mazda. The Ford Escape and Mazda Tribute are the same car, and they both use the door handles off of the Focus.

But then again, Ford also owns part of Volvo, Jaguar, Land Rover and Aston Martin.

I like the RX-8 better, looks wise, but imo, it's under-powered. I'd go with the '05 Mustang GT.
 
Originally posted by: KokomoGST
Actually, on the subject of reliability... NA rotaries tend to be extremely reliable unlike their boosted counterparts. I know some people on ATOT can back me up on this not to mention quite a few people I know from my autoX circles.

slikmunks has an NA FC and he takes it on track days... 😀
 
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Nebor
Volvo S60R would blow them both away. Actually an S40 2004.5 w/ the i5 would probably run away from them both too...

A Ford GT would pwn any Volvo.


Wow..I wonder if I could get the GT with the X-Plan! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I heard my local dealer has been allocated 3...2 have been reserved and the 3rd will have some sort of drawing. Guess I'll have to settle for cheap HP then.
 
i say the mustang (i really like the new design - rims need to be replaced) but my main concerns would be that it is the first year of production so i dont know what problems it could have....

but, ninjja says to go with the rx-8 - she says it looks better than the mustang (even though she appreciates the mustang)
 
Originally posted by: XietyCOM
RX-8 please. I'd never get a 1st-year production car. Especially from Ford.

True..

The '02 model Focus was still having problems (dunno what year it came out, guessing '99? but it was out in europe before that as well).
 
RX8 Sucks in fact didn't Mazda just get burned again with HP ratings of this car (remember they screwed up before with the Miata), if anything consider the 350z as that is a nice ride...between the RX8 and the Stang I will have to go with the Stang, as pointed out above they are both fords in the end so it really doesn't matter, the stang will be cheaper in the long run though...good luck
 
It's not always about HP. Who cares if a car is faster from 0-60 by 1 second? I want fit, finish, quality build materials, and handling. The Mustang isn't in the same class.
 
R-O-T-A-R-Y!!!!! If not, check out the Infintiy G35 Coupe. It's faster than an RX-8 and it's probably just as fast if not faster than the mustang GT. And you get more bling 😛

Edit: Added bling...
 
I don't think there have been any real test of how the new mustang handles yet. I doubt it will handle as well as an rx-8 but it won't be anywhere near as bad as a lot of people want to think either. I'd rather take a little less in handling and get a big hit in the butt with power.

Reliablity wise mustang wins easy. Yeah I hear lots of "my friend's friend has a rotary with 200k mile going strong" stories but for every one of those there are 10 more then blew before 100k miles. The rotary may be a really dependable engine if you maintain it but most people are morons and don't. Even though the mustang is new it is still based on a lot of stuff thats been around for awhile.
 
Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
I don't think there have been any real test of how the new mustang handles yet. I doubt it will handle as well as an rx-8 but it won't be anywhere near as bad as a lot of people want to think either. I'd rather take a little less in handling and get a big hit in the butt with power.

Reliablity wise mustang wins easy. Yeah I hear lots of "my friend's friend has a rotary with 200k mile going strong" stories but for every one of those there are 10 more then blew before 100k miles. The rotary may be a really dependable engine if you maintain it but most people are morons and don't. Even though the mustang is new it is still based on a lot of stuff thats been around for awhile.

Apparently Mazda have finally solved that apex seal problems that they've had...
 
Originally posted by: CombatChuk
R-O-T-A-R-Y!!!!! If not, check out the Infintiy G35 Coupe. It's faster than an RX-8 and it's probably just as fast if not faster than the mustang GT. And you get more bling 😛

Edit: Added bling...

I second this. Classier and uhh, blingier than both 😛
 
Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
If you're a Mustang fan, you'd never even look twice at the RX-8, and vice versa. So make up your own damn mind.


Not a particular fan of either....was hoping that Toyota was gonna bring back the twin-turbo Supra, but that's not gonna happen 🙁
 
Originally posted by: erikiksaz
Originally posted by: CombatChuk
R-O-T-A-R-Y!!!!! If not, check out the Infintiy G35 Coupe. It's faster than an RX-8 and it's probably just as fast if not faster than the mustang GT. And you get more bling 😛

Edit: Added bling...

I second this. Classier and uhh, blingier than both 😛



No Nissan/Infiniti...only Ford, Mazda, Volvo, Lincoln, Mercury, Land Rover, or Jaguar
X-Plan baby, X-Plan!
 
The Ford Mustang and the RX-8 are two different cars for two different purposes. The Mustang is FINALLY getting an independant rear suspension so that will help its handling, but will never change it's characteristics -- it's a pony car, muscle car, whatever. It's a straight line rip-and-roarer.

You must also take into the fact, the base Mustang is going to come in at ~20k which means it will be extremely popular in a short amount of time. Even if you get the top of the line, decked out model, your car will be all over the road, so you will lose 'exclusivity' in that regard. Additionally, Ford has never been good with their interiors, and since the Mustang isn't really top of the line (ie, Lincoln, which also sucks) your interior is going to suck, be low quality etc. The back seat of a Mustang is useless for people, it's fine for groceries. Just incase that was important.

The RX-8 is a more well rounded car. I've sat in one many times, and you can easily fit a 6 foot person up front and one behind that. Granted it's no Caddy with space, but for <1 hour rides, I don't think it will be much problem for anybody. Of course, if you sit gangstah style then obviously you won't get anybody behind you. If you want straight line power, the RX-8 is not your car.

Also to those rotary bashers -- they don't know a damn thing about auto mechanics. Rotary engines almost never fail. Neither do conventional piston engines either, for that matter. When's the last time you went to the mechanic because "my engine died"? It's rare -- and besides the fact that the Mazda has a 5 year warranty, I don't think you have to be worried about that terribly. The rotary engine of yesteryear that was so problematic was because of the 3rd generation RX-7 and its turbos. The turbos introduced a great amount of heat into the engine which cracked the apex seals -- the things that keep compression in the engine. The turbos were remedied in Japan, where the RX-7 sold until last year and met very high reliability standards. If you were buying an RX-7, I'd say to watch out, make sure you get a bigger radiator and cooling equipement... but with a naturally aspirated rotary that's of little concern. If you are still worried, then buy the Mustang with the lower warranty and lower quality parts.

The RX-8's shining light is its handling. The rotary engine is beneficial most in this, because it weighs very little. The torque is low to be sure, but the horses are good and compete with the 3.5L V6 from Nissan/Infiniti, at a fraction of the weight. Additionally, the engine is mounted ENTIRELY behind the front axle so the weight balance in the car is excellent. Let's not forget, the base model weighs under 3000lbs, and the loaded one just a hair over 3000. The Mustang if I had to guess... to put out that power.... at least 3500-3700 lbs. This is what makes the G35C and Nissan 350Z so tiring to drive... the cars are heavy and don't handle as well as the light and nimble RX-8. There's a tradeoff as I mentioned, in power... but the fact I can tote four people around, use the car competitively on an auto-x, and still have enough power to beat 99% of the cars on the road would make me happy.

So what does it come down to? Power - Mustang. Handling and semi-practicality - RX-8.

You decide.
 
I would get the Mustang way before the RX8.

And the "it's a Ford so it must be unreliable" argument won't hold here. Mazda and Volvo are both Fords as well.
 
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