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Wikipedia is actualy writen by jackjacksonj, with pro-tiger information, an nothing/hiding the fact that the lion had won more then what he was trying to conseal, but of course at the time before it was locked, it was highly moderated; so he could not duplicate all the lies; fictional books, fakes and more deciptive information he tryed to fool the world with back in 2006...here...
http://jackjacksonj.webs.com/tigervslionaccounts.htm
All exploited and exposed here...
http://teamauthority.myfastforum.org/ftopic623-0-asc-75.php
In actual accounts of the tiger winning in chronological order this is almost all there is on hand that showed the tiger winning...
1.) (2010) Ankara: Tiger kills lion (Sex/Gender Unknown)
2.) (2007) John varty: Male tiger kills female lion (Sedated/tranqualized)
3.) (2005) Impulse archology: Tiger always wins (Amount unknown)
4.) (1965) News article: Tiger named saba kills two lions (Ages unknown)
5.) (1956) Roman proske: Tiger kills lion (Help from trainer stabing lion)
6.) (1953) Italy: Tiger kills lioness (2 fights first L won, second T won)
7.) (1945) Bangalore, Mysore: Male tiger kills lioness
8.) (1914) Bronx zoo: Tiger kills 2 year old lion (Tiger loses eye)
9.) (1902) Perth: Male tiger kills female lion
10.) (1899) Baroda: Tiger kills male lion
11.) (1891) Calcutta: Tiger kills lioness
12.) (1857) Bromwich zoo: Tiger kills male lion (dessemboweld)
13.) (1830) Tower of london: 2 tigers surcumbed a lone captive lion (Tiger loses fang)
14.) (A.D 20-200) Rome, Martial poem: Tigris kills male lion (Staged)
Thats actually little compared to whats here...
http://teamauthority.myfastforum.org/ftopic623-0-asc-45.php
we are talking about the score of who actualy won already of...
Tiger around 20 Through history on hand.
Lion around 120 Through history on hand
Thats a huge difference.
But of course people are intitled to there own opinion. lol
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What type of tiger?
There are the...
-Malay
-Bali
-Javan
-Caspian
-bengal
-South china
-Indonisian
-Siberian
-Sumatran
6 out of the 9 exisiting sub-speices of tigers in captivity an or wild, are 20-200 pounds lighter, smaller and weaker then the average african to asiatic lion, while the remaining 3 are basicaly at a stand off in weight an smaller in mass than the average male african lion, fluctuating from both ranging a 20-100 pounds heavier than the other since none are consistant an vary on individuality.
So since right off the bat, the tiger should surcumb much easyer 6/9 times being smaller, weaker; less combative, less game, ect...wouldent you say; by ratios of 6/9 being compared to the lions chances automaticaly has a 6/9 win? Since only the 3/9 can oppose an has a 50/50...right?
What really grinds your gears about the topic?
I dont see you going into the Nef thread an going...
ugg, this again?
lol
You; too, need to be more specific.
What answer are you looking for? What tiger are you talking about, what is the circumstances of the hypethetical situation...
-Natrual settings in the wild.
-A arranged pit fight in the arena.
-Coalition vs coaltion (Natrualy)
-Accidental in captivity.
There are many out-liners to this debate, natrual setings in terms what mother nature had spawned them as, the lions would be in large groups of 10-30 lions, while tigers only 1-4, or rare occaisions where lions go nomadic, an meets up with a lone tiger for a one on one. Or are you talking about taking a specific choosing of a individual status, taking what you think is a prime speicimen an arranging a collosol match up in front of amphitheaters; an such.
Of course those are still all hypotheticals, but you must be specific upoun the questions reults, since I see no sceintifical genus of the sub-speices being used from the TS, then I would assume we are talking about these animals as a whole speices; in that case we would take the average sizes of Panthera Leo and average sizes of Panthera Tigris...which would be as I stated above...
Leo aka Lions, would range from 20-200 pounds heavier, stronger; larger, more durable, more powerful; better fighters ect... then the 6/9 of Tigris, an at a stand off in weight with the remaining 3/9...by that alone leo has the win of majority of the fights. if it were 50/50 then it would be stated as 4.5/9 the lion would win, but since the lion automaticaly wins at 6/9; then you have your base answer.
This does not include the over all take, since it can be argued that the remaining 3/9 have lost more then a few times to lions. So by data alone, I would gesture...
Felis Leo vs Felis Tigris= 8/10 wins in favor for the lion.
Of course my own opinion has stifiled to 50/50 only because I feel no need for further explainition if you know more than the basics on subject, but; if you oppose that opinion of mine then I would like to see the data that proves it, because the data at this point remains at 8/10 in favor of the lion, an more will be sought out to make a better explainition...in time.
TurtleCrusher
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So what your saying is...
A 200 pound sumatran tiger will win everysingle time against a 440 pound african lion?
Literaly a 240 pound advantage...really?
mmm, he he he.
An are you saying old records are all made up, lies; unreliable an all disputed just because they are not in video form?
BudAshes
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lol @ lions http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBpu4DAvwI8
A tiger would have used those guys bones to pick his teeth.
So, degrading and down-scaling the comparisons of there fear of man is how you prove who would win? Bravo.
It is the common anecdote that lions dont attack humans, this had gained them the much respected diginity of there power and majestic aura; it is a general rule that they dont attack humans...other than rare cases like the tsavo lions who decimated over a 100 workers.
In general tigers are man eaters, an kill for joy; but there is a flip side to that coin, they show that they attack out of fear, they almost never accept the chalange of a fight from someone/thing who can have not only the will but the might to oppose him...hence almost every video has had a tiger in a point an time submit to his kin who is equal to his status.
The tiger only provokes provocation on weaker animals or via ambush; there reigons/territorys speaks louder then words can emit, they need dense jungle settings to (Hide) while lions live in the open, which is forth coming into the enivitable battle to death in a fair fight.
Tiger=Ninja
Lion=Spartan
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TurtleCrusher
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Win.
So, degrading and down-scaling the comparisons of there fear of man is how you prove who would win? Bravo.
It's indisputable. Tigers would have slaughtered them.
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TurtleCrusher
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Uhh; you said that already, matter of fact more than alot of times.
I think one time is enough; if you are going to be adament, then state your case/proof, I'm only adressing those who seem to be genuinely intrested or partialy at-least...an of course I make it intresting by posting relative facts an opinions based on educated observations.
You on the other hand showed your true colors, since you constantly degrade the lion by insulting him in every little minor detail (In multiple threads)...butt hurt..I dont know, seems that way; dont realy care, but we get the picture, you cant handle facts an just wana derail threads, in this case stalk the hell out me lol.
So...why dont you take a breather; an or post something on topic an in general (Intresting to learn).
Since you cant even be logical or realistic...everytime is just abserd since just one win can make a 99/100 straight win not true...but we arnt even anywhere near those numbers...as stated, we are at...
120 wins for the lion
20 wins for the tiger
If you have any more that I havent mentioned or know about...I would like to see you post them in chronological order (like in my recent post above of tiger victories) but as for you...I would like direct links; not secondary sources, since we all know your intentions already...
Straight ass-hole mode.
TurtleCrusher
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If lions were tough, they wouldn't let humans take their food. Plain and simple. Tigers would have mauled them to death.
uhh huh, an then by lions doing that as frequently as tigers did; humans would have lost there respect for them in mellineums of observing them an not crown the lion the unlimted healdry statuses they have been giving the lion for thousands of years...you know, somthing like...
-The Hero
-The Noble King
-The Humble master
-The lion of Judah/God
-The King of the beast
-The King of the animal kingdom
-The protector of the forest
-The gaia Guardian
an about what...a 1,000 other titles from every culture that had them indigedous or imported...traits that require one to be forgiving, understading the placement of power (Not to abuse it), lenient; all things one who considered to be true role-models, things we look up to, human related-good; morals.
Yes the tiger can an has showed these qualitys in captivity(any animal can be taught out side there natrual state), but it would almost never happen in the wild; on there own accord, it must be forced upoun the tiger to show an learn these qualitys, while the lion has these attributed by birth; they are embeded an prone in these qualitys.
Its not me making it all up, its plastered all over there origins historical records.
You know little to nothing on subject, an are just a butt-hurt stalker.
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So you're saying... Lions are tougher? Show me wild tigers that let humans take their food. Until then, Tigers>Lions.
How would that determine whos tougher? I would think showing a case where the other has backed off from a combatant of the specific challange, you know lion vs tiger, not lion vs human. In that scenario I can show you cases where a lion takes a tigers food...yet you wont of the opposite...but ahh, you know you...video right? (yet I have one specificaly of that challange via video).
So in your retarded logic, If I can show a video of a man scaring off a huge bull elephant out of his yard, an I cant of a tiger...would that mean a tiger is more tough than a bull elephant an would mean a tiger can beat a elephant as you say...everytime?
Pfw ha ha ha ha...man you're stupid.
An give me a break; your on straight stalker mode, yet again...why not post on here before hand then? It was gone for over years yet I come here an give a bump, an you magicaly have some scitsophranic break down as usual; an cant leave the topic I post in again...eh?
Lion taking tigers food...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QNywR1OFSQ
As you just said...Show me the opposite or it never happened...until then Lion>>>>>Tiger...XD XD
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This is clearly Serious Business! And wasn't at all exhaustively (AND BEYOND!!!!) covered only a few short months ago!
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