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Tiger Tank vs. Modern Day M1A1 Abram?
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Suspicious-Teach8788
Lifer
IS-2 baby =) Those were monsters.
Check out the M1A1 casualty and loss list towards the bottom. Only one KIA while in the Abrams.
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Damn I couldn't even spell the damned thing correctly.
These things are so freaking tough.
"There have also been a number of Abrams crewmen killed by sniper fire during times when they were exposed through the turret hatches of their tanks. Some of these attacks were filmed by insurgents for propaganda purposes and spread via the Internet. One of these videos shows a large IED detonating beneath an Abrams and nearly flipping the vehicle, though the tank landed back on its treads and appeared to have suffered no serious damage as it was still mobile and traversing the turret following the attack" :Q
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**EDIT**
Damn I couldn't even spell the damned thing correctly.
These things are so freaking tough.
"There have also been a number of Abrams crewmen killed by sniper fire during times when they were exposed through the turret hatches of their tanks. Some of these attacks were filmed by insurgents for propaganda purposes and spread via the Internet. One of these videos shows a large IED detonating beneath an Abrams and nearly flipping the vehicle, though the tank landed back on its treads and appeared to have suffered no serious damage as it was still mobile and traversing the turret following the attack" :Q
dennilfloss
Past Lifer 1957-2014 In Memoriam
The King Tiger had a favourable ratio of kills when facing the IS-2 due to the very slow shooting rate of the Russian gun (with its separate charges). On the other hand, at short range, an IS-2 gun shot right through a captured Panther Ausf D, exiting at the rear through the engine, during a test. Thing is, at that range the Panther's awesome high-velocity gun could penetrate the IS-2 frontal armour also.
In late 1944, there was one Panther unit that claimed a kill ratio of 7 to 1 when facing T34-85s. As the German kills were quite accurately assessed in those internal reports, that is very impressive.
In late 1944, there was one Panther unit that claimed a kill ratio of 7 to 1 when facing T34-85s. As the German kills were quite accurately assessed in those internal reports, that is very impressive.
videogames101
Diamond Member
And that was after "Three DU kinetic energy rounds, after being hit by an Iraqi RPG"
Born2bwire
Diamond Member
I would imagine they would be more evenly matched. Heck, the Abrams uses British armor and a Leopard's gun.
ed21x
Diamond Member
all this time and nobody mentioned that the Abram now uses DU in its reactive armor. if the Abram really wanted to end it in style, it coould just drive next to the Tiger Tank, and have the tiger tank shoot at it. The reactive armor would explode off a plate and probably take out the Tiger Tank 😛
dennilfloss
Past Lifer 1957-2014 In Memoriam
The M1A1/M1A2 uses the old L/44 Rheinmetall Leopard gun. The new one is 55 calibers in length and has a 1.5km longer range (and greater penetrative power at a same range due to higher velocities).
The Tiger tank was defeated by the T-34 (w/upgraded gun, i think) on the battlefield. So it's armor is far from impervious. Possibly it could shrug off frontal blasts, but it's side/rear armor weren't quite the same level of toughness.
That said, cannon technology has improved -a lot- since WWII. Not to mention that the M1's 120mm cannon is just straight up bigger than most anything the germans or russians were fielding.
That said, cannon technology has improved -a lot- since WWII. Not to mention that the M1's 120mm cannon is just straight up bigger than most anything the germans or russians were fielding.
Zugzwang152
Lifer
How about a roman soldier with a gladius versus a US army infantryman with an M-16? Would the roman's shield stop a 5.56mm round?
0roo0roo
No Lifer
WT
Diamond Member
There were larger tanks than even the King Tiger, and some that were never even on the battlefield:
German Maus (Mouse) tank - 192 metric tons
:Q
It would have been interesting to see the IS-3 in battle, but the world was introduced to the huge Russian tank during the Russian victory parade, and was quite an eye opener for the Western powers due to its advancements.
German Maus (Mouse) tank - 192 metric tons
:Q
It would have been interesting to see the IS-3 in battle, but the world was introduced to the huge Russian tank during the Russian victory parade, and was quite an eye opener for the Western powers due to its advancements.
Was that in Romania when SS Totenkopf division into action against a soviet armored attack? I think the Germans knocked out nearly 400 tanks to about 10 of their own. Another incident like this was around Warsaw where Wiking and Totenkopf worked together to effectively eliminate the Soviets 3rd armor corps from the order of battle.
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