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Aquaman

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Originally posted by: Lars
Originally posted by: Aquaman
Originally posted by: Lars
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Wow, nice. My future plans are to pick up a 28-135mm and a 70-200 2.8L USM IS lens soon.

I would love to have that 70-200 2.8 IS, too! It will take a long time until I can afford to it though.

whats the ball park price for one of those?

Cheers,
Aquaman

about $1500 to $1600

:Q that's one expensive lense :Q

But the resulting pictures prove it's worth it :D

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

m2kewl

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hot damn! very nice pics!

i need to put my 70-200L lens to work. need to hop up to the Bronx Zoo!
 

LordMorpheus

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I love canon cameras.

We just got a brand new EOS-1D Mark II on monday. Its a beast of a camera. The image sensor is actually 35mm! And it focuses well, shoots great images (although only 90-something will fit on a 1gb card, which might be a problem).

Heh, and it looks and works just like our two EOS-1D (originals), no learning curve. rock.

The 550EX flashes are what we use, and they work well, but I really don't see anything amazingly special about them. I would recommend you feed them Maha batteries. Mahas will last as long as a quantum battery pack without the hassel, and you don't want to use normal AA's, or you will blow through packs of them like a chain smoker through cigarettes.
 

Wallydraigle

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Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
I love canon cameras.

We just got a brand new EOS-1D Mark II on monday. Its a beast of a camera. The image sensor is actually 35mm! And it focuses well, shoots great images (although only 90-something will fit on a 1gb card, which might be a problem).

Heh, and it looks and works just like our two EOS-1D (originals), no learning curve. rock.


Lucky bastard :p

I plan on getting one towards the end of summer once the initial frenzy dies down. I'm not in a big hurry about it.
 

LordMorpheus

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Originally posted by: lirion
Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
I love canon cameras.

We just got a brand new EOS-1D Mark II on monday. Its a beast of a camera. The image sensor is actually 35mm! And it focuses well, shoots great images (although only 90-something will fit on a 1gb card, which might be a problem).

Heh, and it looks and works just like our two EOS-1D (originals), no learning curve. rock.


Lucky bastard :p

I plan on getting one towards the end of summer once the initial frenzy dies down. I'm not in a big hurry about it.

the cameras are for my mother's photography business. Seeing as she went digital a year or two ago, and I'm a highschool senior now, I've been doing a lot of work for her. Wedding and portrait photography becomes more interesting when you get to play with these cameras. Fun lenses, too: a monster 70-200mm telescopic, a few standard 28-70mms, a wide angle 16-35mm, fun stuff. That, and I'm realizing that going on weddings is a great way to see some really cool architecture around town - people generally get married in the coolest churches they can find, and its always fun to see these amazing building from inside (stl = catholic ghetto). And the steady income is nice.

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
The image sensor is not actual 35mm, is it?

I heard that was what made the canon cameras so expensive (and gave them the edge).

I'm going to go try to confirm/deny that. Edit: Not quite, but really close: "The EOS-1D's newly developed 4.48 million pixel CCD sensor (4.15 million effective pixels) is a full 28.7 x 19.1mm in size-with square pixels a full 11.5 x 11.5 microns."
 

Nocturnal

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Originally posted by: ndee
also, how many shots do you have to take til you get the ones you posted? Do you know which settings to use from the beginning or do you take about 3-5 shots from each object?

A lot of the beauty of the picture comes out after the shot, it's all done in Photoshop or whatever program he may have used. Out of the cam the picture definately does not look like that. I normally take a few shots of what I'm shooting, however you can't always take the same shot of a moving animal.
 

Nocturnal

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Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
Originally posted by: lirion
Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
I love canon cameras.

We just got a brand new EOS-1D Mark II on monday. Its a beast of a camera. The image sensor is actually 35mm! And it focuses well, shoots great images (although only 90-something will fit on a 1gb card, which might be a problem).

Heh, and it looks and works just like our two EOS-1D (originals), no learning curve. rock.


Lucky bastard :p

I plan on getting one towards the end of summer once the initial frenzy dies down. I'm not in a big hurry about it.

the cameras are for my mother's photography business. Seeing as she went digital a year or two ago, and I'm a highschool senior now, I've been doing a lot of work for her. Wedding and portrait photography becomes more interesting when you get to play with these cameras. Fun lenses, too: a monster 70-200mm telescopic, a few standard 28-70mms, a wide angle 16-35mm, fun stuff. That, and I'm realizing that going on weddings is a great way to see some really cool architecture around town - people generally get married in the coolest churches they can find, and its always fun to see these amazing building from inside (stl = catholic ghetto). And the steady income is nice.

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
The image sensor is not actual 35mm, is it?

I heard that was what made the canon cameras so expensive (and gave them the edge).

I'm going to go try to confirm/deny that. Edit: Not quite, but really close: "The EOS-1D's newly developed 4.48 million pixel CCD sensor (4.15 million effective pixels) is a full 28.7 x 19.1mm in size-with square pixels a full 11.5 x 11.5 microns."


There is a crop factor, it would be much more expensive if it was an actual 35mm sensor.
 

OffTopic1

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Nice pics. What shutter speed & fstop are your at? The images are very sharp for non Canon lens.
 

ndee

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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: ndee
also, how many shots do you have to take til you get the ones you posted? Do you know which settings to use from the beginning or do you take about 3-5 shots from each object?

A lot of the beauty of the picture comes out after the shot, it's all done in Photoshop or whatever program he may have used. Out of the cam the picture definately does not look like that. I normally take a few shots of what I'm shooting, however you can't always take the same shot of a moving animal.

aaaaaah ok. That's what I was wondering, if you can make such perfect shots. Of course, some people can do but not the normal Joe Average(not saying Lars is a Joe Average but I think you get my point ;))
 

Nocturnal

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Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: ndee
also, how many shots do you have to take til you get the ones you posted? Do you know which settings to use from the beginning or do you take about 3-5 shots from each object?

A lot of the beauty of the picture comes out after the shot, it's all done in Photoshop or whatever program he may have used. Out of the cam the picture definately does not look like that. I normally take a few shots of what I'm shooting, however you can't always take the same shot of a moving animal.

aaaaaah ok. That's what I was wondering, if you can make such perfect shots. Of course, some people can do but not the normal Joe Average(not saying Lars is a Joe Average but I think you get my point ;))

Well even some of the best photographers do post processing. I don't *THINK* any digital camera is capable of producing those kind of pictures out of the camera. It has to go through some kind of post processing.
 

OffTopic1

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Originally posted by: Lars
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Wow, nice. My future plans are to pick up a 28-135mm and a 70-200 2.8L USM IS lens soon.

I would love to have that 70-200 2.8 IS, too! It will take a long time until I can afford to it though.
The 70-200 is a sharper lens, but it is quite heavy when compare to the new 70-300. Eventhose the 70-300 DO not as sharp nor as fast as the 70-200L IS, but it still is sharper than the 70-200L. If you don't mind the weight, then the 70-200mm L IS is the one to get, and if weight is a hinderance then the 70-300mm DO is the ticket. (The new 70-300mm DO also employed Canon enhance barel coating & emliminate common ghosting when use with digital cameras).

70-200mm IS L -- 77mm filter, 3.4" x 7.8", 3.24 lbs / 86.2 x 197mm, 1,470g

70-300mm DO IS -- 58mm filter, 3.2" x 3.9", 25.4 oz. / 82.4 x 99.9mm, 720g
 

Freejack2

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That camera is the ultimate camera. No non-SLR digicam can come close to it.
Beautiful pictures Lars.
 

skychief

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Great pics!! One question though, what the hell are they feeding those prairie dogs, KFC?
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: OffTopic
Originally posted by: Lars
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Wow, nice. My future plans are to pick up a 28-135mm and a 70-200 2.8L USM IS lens soon.

I would love to have that 70-200 2.8 IS, too! It will take a long time until I can afford to it though.
The 70-200 is a sharper lens, but it is quite heavy when compare to the new 70-300. Eventhose the 70-300 DO not as sharp nor as fast as the 70-200L IS, but it still is sharper than the 70-200L. If you don't mind the weight, then the 70-200mm L IS is the one to get, and if weight is a hinderance then the 70-300mm DO is the ticket. (The new 70-300mm DO also employed Canon enhance barel coating & emliminate common ghosting when use with digital cameras).

70-200mm IS L -- 77mm filter, 3.4" x 7.8", 3.24 lbs / 86.2 x 197mm, 1,470g

70-300mm DO IS -- 58mm filter, 3.2" x 3.9", 25.4 oz. / 82.4 x 99.9mm, 720g

how much would you say those lenses cost?

MIKE
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: Freejack2
That camera is the ultimate camera. No non-SLR digicam can come close to it.
Beautiful pictures Lars.

No, there are many better cameras, but they are all (much) more expensive. And of course an SLR is going to take better pictures than your average point and shoot.
 

DBL

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Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
how much would you say those lenses cost?

MIKE


70-200mm IS L f/2.8 $1600
70-300mm DO IS $1300
70-200mm L f/4 $600
70-200mm L f/2.8 $1200

Here a pic taken with a 70-200mm L f/2.8 + 1.4x TC Wide Open. On the 10D, that's a 448mm effective focal length. Using the TC degrades the sharpness of the lens a bit.

Swing Away

I'd love to get my hands on the new DO lens, primarily considering its size and reach. I just wish it were a few hundred $ cheaper.
 

Lars

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Originally posted by: ndee
also, how many shots do you have to take til you get the ones you posted? Do you know which settings to use from the beginning or do you take about 3-5 shots from each object?

For landscape photos I usually take two pictures of each scene. With animals you just have to take more because they always seem to move, so maybe 5 to 10 per subject.


Originally posted by: Aquaman
:Q that's one expensive lense :Q

But the resulting pictures prove it's worth it :D

Cheers,
Aquaman


Yes, a $1600 lens will produce sharp photos but you can also see that my Sigma 70-300mm zoom for only $154 is good enough for some nice stuff.




Originally posted by: OffTopic
Nice pics. What shutter speed & fstop are your at? The images are very sharp for non Canon lens.


Meercat
300mm
1/800sec
f/8
ISO 200

Prairie Dog
263mm
1/160sec
f/8
ISO 200

Peacock
70mm
1/125sec
f/8
ISO 400


Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: ndee
also, how many shots do you have to take til you get the ones you posted? Do you know which settings to use from the beginning or do you take about 3-5 shots from each object?

A lot of the beauty of the picture comes out after the shot, it's all done in Photoshop or whatever program he may have used. Out of the cam the picture definately does not look like that. I normally take a few shots of what I'm shooting, however you can't always take the same shot of a moving animal.

aaaaaah ok. That's what I was wondering, if you can make such perfect shots. Of course, some people can do but not the normal Joe Average(not saying Lars is a Joe Average but I think you get my point ;))

Well even some of the best photographers do post processing. I don't *THINK* any digital camera is capable of producing those kind of pictures out of the camera. It has to go through some kind of post processing.


You have to do post processing with a DSLR camera, especially if you shoot the photos in RAW format.



Originally posted by: OffTopic
Originally posted by: Lars
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Wow, nice. My future plans are to pick up a 28-135mm and a 70-200 2.8L USM IS lens soon.

I would love to have that 70-200 2.8 IS, too! It will take a long time until I can afford to it though.
The 70-200 is a sharper lens, but it is quite heavy when compare to the new 70-300. Eventhose the 70-300 DO not as sharp nor as fast as the 70-200L IS, but it still is sharper than the 70-200L. If you don't mind the weight, then the 70-200mm L IS is the one to get, and if weight is a hinderance then the 70-300mm DO is the ticket. (The new 70-300mm DO also employed Canon enhance barel coating & emliminate common ghosting when use with digital cameras).

70-200mm IS L -- 77mm filter, 3.4" x 7.8", 3.24 lbs / 86.2 x 197mm, 1,470g

70-300mm DO IS -- 58mm filter, 3.2" x 3.9", 25.4 oz. / 82.4 x 99.9mm, 720g


I mind the weight somewhat but I really want a fast lens for shooting sports photos so the 70-200mm lens would be the way to go. I don't have the money for either of them anyways right now.


Originally posted by: skychief
Great pics!! One question though, what the hell are they feeding those prairie dogs, KFC?


Looks like some dog treats. The whole are smelled a little like peanuts so maybe the stuff tastes like peanuts.
 

OffTopic1

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Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
Originally posted by: OffTopic
Originally posted by: Lars
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Wow, nice. My future plans are to pick up a 28-135mm and a 70-200 2.8L USM IS lens soon.

I would love to have that 70-200 2.8 IS, too! It will take a long time until I can afford to it though.
The 70-200 is a sharper lens, but it is quite heavy when compare to the new 70-300. Eventhose the 70-300 DO not as sharp nor as fast as the 70-200L IS, but it still is sharper than the 70-200L. If you don't mind the weight, then the 70-200mm L IS is the one to get, and if weight is a hinderance then the 70-300mm DO is the ticket. (The new 70-300mm DO also employed Canon enhance barel coating & emliminate common ghosting when use with digital cameras).

70-200mm IS L -- 77mm filter, 3.4" x 7.8", 3.24 lbs / 86.2 x 197mm, 1,470g

70-300mm DO IS -- 58mm filter, 3.2" x 3.9", 25.4 oz. / 82.4 x 99.9mm, 720g

how much would you say those lenses cost?

MIKE
The 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS is about $1500-$1600, and the 70-300 f/4.5-5.6 DO IS is going to be about $1300.

Canon EF 70 - 300 mm DO IS USM
 

DBL

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Freejack2
That camera is the ultimate camera. No non-SLR digicam can come close to it.
Beautiful pictures Lars.

No, there are many better cameras, but they are all (much) more expensive. And of course an SLR is going to take better pictures than your average point and shoot.

It depends on the application. For instance, the Canon 1D MII is the best camera for Sports/Action Photography regardless of price.