Threadripper BUILDERS thread

[dnavas]

Latest on TR from AT: https://www.anandtech.com/show/1499...-generation-ryzen-threadripper-32-cores-280-w

Cooling for 280W will be interesting, but getting much headroom over that is going to require something better than we've had thus far. Any clues for the non-plumbers? ;/ I'm not convinced a Noctua is going to cool 400+ watts.
Also, the all-core clocks on a 16C at 280W.... Yeesh!

 

[Ajay]

Cooling for 280W will be interesting, but getting much headroom over that is going to require something better than we've had thus far. Any clues for the non-plumbers? ;/ I'm not convinced a Noctua is going to cool 400+ watts.
Also, the all-core clocks on a 16C at 280W.... Yeesh!

The TDP values are just for any CPU on that socket. I suppose an all core overclock go hit 280Watts on AVX2 workloads. If you don't want to go with liquid cooling, the NH-D15 is probably as good as it gets.

 

[dnavas]

The TDP values are just for any CPU on that socket.

Ah, well, that makes more sense. 280W on the 64 core makes more sense than on the 16....

If you don't want to go with liquid cooling, the NH-D15 is probably as good as it gets.

Oh, I don't mind liquid cooling, I mind the custom half. Our aio options on TR are kind of .... sub-par.

 

[gdansk]

Are current Threadripper parts configurable TDP? I really doubt I can cool "280W" in my case with my current cooler.

 

[Atari2600]

Are current Threadripper parts configurable TDP? I really doubt I can cool "280W" in my case with my current cooler.

Yep - with Ryzen master, you can essentially limit power through the socket - which obviously has a direct effect on both heat and clocks.

Or you could just let it do its own thing and it will thermally throttle as required.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Oh, I don't mind liquid cooling, I mind the custom half. Our aio options on TR are kind of .... sub-par.

Threadripper3 is going to require a new generation of coolers. Bigger hsfs, and AiOs with blocks that actually cover the entire IHS. Ones that don't destroy themselves.

 

[Beavermatic]

to kind of squash the rumor mill (and as legit as some of the TR3 paper rumors sound), It wasn't too long ago that everyone was dead certain there wasn't going to be another TR anytime soon. Literally every tech site was acting like this was the case, and then shortly thereafter Lisa Su killed that rumor saying "we never said that. That was a internet thing.' We have to remember, literally every site was *certain* there wasn't another TR coming this year and some going so far to spout that they killed off the TR line over whatever reason because some credible source said so. And just like that.... poof. Squashed by AMD and here we are a week or so away from a new TR launch.


So when I see all these 'credible sources' and sites talking bout how TR3 isn't going to support X399 drop-in, or how there's all these variants of these 280w multi-form factor & redundant boards and even the CPU itself (i mean, what, they are releasing a 16c Ryzen 3000 and a 16c TR3 to the consumer market on the same day? doubt it), I just look back at how wrong everyone had it about TR3 even being a thing and I think there's probably a lot of bad information going around yet again.

I'll guess we'll find out soon enough, but wouldn't be so sure about anything yet other than 'It's Coming'.

 

[DrMrLordX]

I'll guess we'll find out soon enough

Nov 5th for the reveal, Nov 19th for the initial TR3 launch (plus TRX40 at least).

 

[Markfw]

OK, not really a threadripper, but its back in stock.... 128 cores, 256 thread for only $17,700 with 512 gig 3200 ECC ram.

Are you a human?

www.newegg.com

I shouldn;t, but.....

 

[DrMrLordX]

Ha! Don't do it. You can get more cores for less with TR3. Less than 1 month to availability.

 

[Markfw]

Ha! Don't do it. You can get more cores for less with TR3. Less than 1 month to availability.

I know, its just so hard.... And its available, and I can afford it....

 

[UsandThem]

Ha! Don't do it. You can get more cores for less with TR3. Less than 1 month to availability.

I know, its just so hard.... And its available, and I can afford it....

$3.99 shipping though.

I'd pass on it and wait for TR3.

 

[DrMrLordX]

$3.99 shipping though.

Oh snap! Pass.

 

[scannall]

I know, its just so hard.... And its available, and I can afford it....

Mark, in your wildest dreams did 256 threads ever come up as a possibility? One thing though, it's PCIe 3. Which seems odd. If you do go that way though, work on sponsorship. Seriously. You have a great story, and exposure may inspire more folks to use their resources to the same cause.

 

[Markfw]

Mark, in your wildest dreams did 256 threads ever come up as a possibility? One thing though, it's PCIe 3. Which seems odd. If you do go that way though, work on sponsorship. Seriously. You have a great story, and exposure may inspire more folks to use their resources to the same cause.

Well, now that I have calmed down, upgrading 4 of my threadrippers to 64 cores each would do the same, probably at less cost, and they would probably be clocked higher. So Sanity says wait a month and then see what is available.

As far as sponsorship, I hate to ask people for their money, unless it was a corporation, but I don't think I could get anyone of that stature to contribute.

 

[lightmanek]

I know it's old CPU by now, but I just saw brand new TR1920X on sale for £238 at Amazon!
That's cheaper than chips and great processor for almost any kind of use!

 

[Kirito]

I know it's old CPU by now, but I just saw brand new TR1920X on sale for £238 at Amazon!
That's cheaper than chips and great processor for almost any kind of use!

It is agonising seeing how cheap the earlier trs have become, kind of makes me doubt wanting to go tr3! Arghh when money is an issue, can afford a hit with tr3 but these older chips are better perf/£...

 

[Kirito]

Don't seem to bode so well for mobo pricing.. Especially if you can't use x399 boards.. I'd hate to be Required to buy a super expensive board just to be able to use tr3, especially when there was very reasonably priced x399 boards from the likes of asus and asrock off the top of my head

Edit: https://www.computerbase.de/2019-10/ryzen-threadripper-erste-trx40-boards-preise-handel/
Article for non video users

 

[Ajay]

5 days to go! I'm looking forward to this . Sadly, I don’t have the free cash to spend $1200+ on just a mobo and cpu. Not that I need a build like that, but it would be fun! Oh, and if I did have the cash, it’d be a mandatory custom H2O build, double plus good! Oh well, us peasants can dream of being king . Anyway, it’ll be fun to watch what mark and a few others build.

 

[Kirito]

I do hope there'll be atx sized boards.. Would hate to need to replace my case again for a build.. Any expectations? I'm looking forward to a 24/32c finally coming up from a 4770k! Not too familiar with hedt boards, are gigabyte ones good these days?

 

[Markfw]

I do hope there'll be atx sized boards.. Would hate to need to replace my case again for a build.. Any expectations? I'm looking forward to a 24/32c finally coming up from a 4770k! Not too familiar with hedt boards, are gigabyte ones good these days?

Others may reply, but Giga-byte is garbage nowadays.

 

[dlerious]

Others may reply, but Giga-byte is garbage nowadays.

I thought they were getting better. I see Asrock is all ATX with one mATX. My Asus Zenith Extreme is EATX and the MSI MEG Creation is EATX.

 

[dnavas]

I do hope there'll be atx sized boards.. Would hate to need to replace my case again for a build.. Any expectations?

I'd like to see the same, and I expect to be disappointed, frankly, on sizing, pricing, and features. If you're going to try and sell me an $800 board, it better come with a 360mm copper radiator and block connections for vrm cooling. Instead, I expect to see !!-*LED*-!! much-wow, sprawling plastic covers and other such garbage. EATX just let's them do more of that. It's embarrassing to the industry imnsho.

Anyway, in preparation, I'm trying to figure out what kind of case I might live with. The Carbide 540 is an interesting choice. With cases just getting taller, and with so many of them eliminating front drive bays, it's getting harder for me to find a decent case I know that the tdp makes this impossible, but I find myself pining for my A3000-sized case....

 

[DrMrLordX]

Others may reply, but Giga-byte is garbage nowadays.

Nah, they have some good x570 boards at least. The x570 Aorus Master is really good. So is the Xtreme if you can afford that goofy thing.

 

[Kirito]

Hmm.. I've had bad experiences with msi, asrock was nice except bios options, last gigabyte board was a p35t-dq6... Would really prefer not to pay for Asus tax especially with their shenanigans of late.. Is it that difficult to have a high end non tacky board with a nice functional bios? Something like asus ws but atx(?) budget should be about 350£ or even 450/500 if it's a proper board that'll last ages.. That old ultradurable board with an e6300 is still running a fileserver for me! Just has a few broken USB slots after all this while.