SheHateMe
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One can home school themselves if there is a shitty school.
Reach for the knowledge that exists even if it is not handed to them.
Instead of reaching for excuses.
Right, Home school...
One can home school themselves if there is a shitty school.
Reach for the knowledge that exists even if it is not handed to them.
Instead of reaching for excuses.
My statements weren't an argument for Affirmative Action, thanks.
I was arguing the point that going to High School doesn't give you a shot at College...not for everybody. Detroit is a prime example, yes, its run by Blacks who ran the city into the ground..but its also full of kids who don't have good schools to go to, MOST of the High Schools in Detroit are "Dropout Factories". These kids aren't getting the resources to excel in school. The other shame is that in order to get a fair chance at learning and making it to college, you only have 3 high schools in Detroit to choose from. Obviously, everyone can't go there. The city pours most of their money into these 3 schools, over the past 6 years..all 3 of these schools have gotten newer, bigger facilities, better teachers, etc. Meanwhile, tumbleweed rolls through the hallways of other schools.
I never said Affirmative Action was the answer to anything. Actually, I never said it was a good thing either. I am just highlighting the fact that this whole "Everyone has a fair chance during secondary education" is BS.
How does a HS aged child reach for an opportunity that is not there for them? They go to a shitty school in a poor area. Its not like they can pack up and move out to the burbs to find a better school.
The parents them self must have some responsibility for the high drop out rate, and even the child too. While the system it self is to blame no doubt, everyone else is not without blame.
The parents them self must have some responsibility for the high drop out rate, and even the child too. While the system it self is to blame no doubt, everyone else is not without blame.
So, are you assuming that parents in Detroit have never complained about the low quality of schools available to their kids or that the kids themselves just don't want to learn so its their fault too? There are a lot of parents (despite what the news tells you) that are there for their kids in Detroit, some of them go up to the school and try to help out, make sure their kids do homework...there are a lot of teachers who care too. The problem is, the school board doesnt care, so what is there to do?
You guys are very disillusioned. Its fine though, everything seems so simple to solve on the outside looking in.
The opportunities are there to be reached for.
If a person chooses to not reach for them, it is their fault, not someone else's.
Now the naysayers are panicking because they are being proved wrong, that blacks can advance on their own, the opportunity exists.
Parental responsibility to advance the child does not depend on race. It depends on the patent and/or child. If they choose to fail because it is easier, they will. No drive. A fault of their own attitude. Their responsibility for the failure.
I am a minority who grew up in the ghetto, not Detroit ghetto but still a ghetto in California. I know what bad schools are like, many parents just do not care if their child isn't doing good, the teacher call and complains that the child isn't showing up, and the parents say it isn't their problem. Kids who make up one excuse after another why they are failing. Their are library everywhere even in Detroit, full of books to learn. Any child can go to a library and learn.
My thoughts on affirmative action is it needs to be outlawed. Once I applied for a 6 figure job that quite honestly, was beneath me. But being the highly generous and considerate person I am, I figured I would grace them with my presence. After applying however, I never heard back from the hiring manager.
He never actually said it, but deep down I knew affirmative action was to blame.
Have you ever been to Detroit?
Its not uncommon for an employer to not hired somebody that is over-qualified for a job. Why? Because there is no guarantee you will stay.
No I haven't. But I have heard it has some issues, high poverty, high unemployment, lots of crime, and what not.
So, are you assuming that parents in Detroit have never complained about the low quality of schools available to their kids or that the kids themselves just don't want to learn so its their fault too? There are a lot of parents (despite what the news tells you) that are there for their kids in Detroit, some of them go up to the school and try to help out, make sure their kids do homework...there are a lot of teachers who care too. The problem is, the school board doesnt care, so what is there to do?
You guys are very disillusioned. Its fine though, everything seems so simple to solve on the outside looking in.
School board is elected. Goes back to public caring on the quality of school system.
So you haven't actually gone to school in Detroit. Okay.
Growing up in the Ghetto in California doesn't mean it would be the same as growing up in the Ghetto in Detroit.
Therefore, I wouldn't tell somebody from Baltimore that I know what its like to live there just because I've been to Detroit.
Also, it would be safe not to generalize what parents in poor areas are like. There are parents that care and parents that don't...you know, just like in more affluent neighborhoods.
I been all over the world, both touring with my band, a friends band, and in the military, one thing I can tell you, poor is poor. Black poor in Detroit is no worse than white poor in Alabama, than is brown poor in LA. And no one in America can touch poor in Bulgaria.
Then the 49% need to work harder to get the bad apples removed.So if 49% of people care and 51% don't we should just be okay with those 49% being stuck in a crap situation because that's what democracy says we should do?
Then the 49% need to work harder to get the bad apples removed.
If they can not do so; then they need to take matters in their own hands and educate the children themselves.
The resources exist if needed; it may take some effort to utilize them; is a child's future worth that effort?
you right. why take responsibility for something? excuses and handouts work so much better..
Yes, poor is poor..but that does not mean the experience is the same. He claimed to know how parents think in Detroit because he grew up in a ghetto in California. You can't generalize people just because they share the same financial situation.
Individual experiences don't matter, they only offer an excuse. Being poor, is being poor, using race and things that happened a hundred and fifty years ago is just rationalizing an excuse.
What resources do you suggest poor kids use to "educate" themselves.
More specifically, what resources can they use when they have been crippled intellectually since say...Kindergarten. A lot of children in poor area cannot read or write...but of course, they can homeschool themselves as you say. There are tons of libraries around and they can just pick up the books with the most pictures.
Where are you from?
Is there such a thing as a library on the City of Detroit or surrounding cities.
There are 12 branches and a main library.
A child can go there for additional learning
A child can decide if they want to move forward or back. Outreach community programs exist. Social organizations, churches, etc.Learning from who? You keep saying a child that has received a poor education can just go and homeschool themselves. Such a simple solution to everything, huh?
Yes, there are libraries in Detroit..with funding for public programs being in the wind, you would be lucky to find a library in Detroit that still has the same outreach programs they might have had years ago.
A child can decide if they want to move forward or back. Outreach community programs exist. Social organizations, churches, etc.
In fact. I will spend some phone calls this week calling each of the libraries in Detroit and ask about outreach.