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This why the Bengals suck and usually will

MotionMan

Lifer
Their owners are stupid, and always have been (mix in the fact that they have also always been cheap, and you have your loser Bengals):

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6803427/cincinnati-bengals-carson-palmer-not-available-owner-says

Bengals: Carson Palmer not on block
ESPN.com news services

CINCINNATI -- Bengals owner Mike Brown insisted on Tuesday that he won't trade quarterback Carson Palmer, who wants to leave one of the NFL's least-successful franchises.

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He was a splendid player for us. He's a good person. I wish him well. And he is retired. That is his choice. ... I'm not expecting him to be back.

” -- Bengals owner Mike Brown on Carson Palmer

Palmer, who has four years left on his contract, told the team in January that he would retire if he's not traded. The Bengals have only two winning seasons in the last 20 years, one of the worst stretches of futility in league history.
Brown said the club will move on without its franchise quarterback. The Bengals plan to hold their first training camp workout Saturday in Georgetown, Ky.

"I honestly like Carson Palmer," Brown said. "He was a splendid player for us. He's a good person. I wish him well. And he is retired. That is his choice. ... I'm not expecting him to be back."

Asked why he wouldn't trade the 31-year-old Palmer and get some draft picks in return, Brown said it was a matter of principle.

"Carson signed a contract. He made a commitment. He gave his word," Brown said. "We relied on his word. We relied on his commitment. We expected him to perform here. He's going to walk away from his commitment. We aren't going to reward him for doing it."

Brown doesn't appear to be bluffing, either. The Bengals have told every team that has called about Palmer that they will not trade him, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

Brown has traditionally taken a hard line on players trying to leave. Receiver Chad Ochocinco unsuccessfully lobbied for a trade three years ago, but Brown refused. Ochocinco has one year left on his deal, but is hoping to be released in the next few weeks.

Brown and coach Marvin Lewis declined to say anything about Ochocinco on Tuesday other than that he's under contract. The Bengals picked receiver A.J. Green in the first round of the draft, giving themselves his eventual replacement.

The Bengals drafted quarterback Andy Dalton in the second round last April. Brown indicated on Tuesday that he'll be the starter heading into camp, even though he hasn't been able to work with coaches because of the NFL's lockout. Jordan Palmer -- Carson's younger brother -- is the only experienced quarterback on the roster.

Brown said the team will look for another veteran, but will give Dalton a chance to win the job.

"We think he is promising for our future," Brown said. "Yes, he'll have teething problems. It won't be altogether easy for him all the time. But we're going to put him in there. If he can do it, we're going to go with him. And I hope he can manage it."

The Bengals are coming off a 4-12 season that included 10 straight losses. Carson Palmer told the team he wouldn't be back after Lewis decided to return even though Brown promised no significant changes in how the organization is run.

The Bengals originally planned to have players report at Georgetown College -- a 90-mile drive south of Cincinnati -- on Wednesday and have their first practice a day later. They pushed the schedule back by two days.

MotionMan
 
I have been a life long Bengals fan, but I am turning my back on them this year.
This is the final straw.
The objective of a sports team is to compete.
By letting Palmer retire, Brown is saying he doesn't care about winning.
How the hell can you be a fan of a team that doesn't want to compete?

I am done. Indy is my new favorite team.
 
I have been a life long Bengals fan, but I am turning my back on them this year.
This is the final straw. The objective of sports teams is to compete. By letting Palmer retire, Brown is saying he doesn't care about winning.
How the hell can you be a fan of a team that doesn't want to compete?

I am done. Indy is my new favorite team.

what about Cleveland??
 
lol so the team is stupid and idiotic for living up to the contract but Palmer is getting a pass for not honoring his side? yeah fuck that.


his "trade me or i retire" is fucking childish and immature.
 
lol so the team is stupid and idiotic for living up to the contract but Palmer is getting a pass for not honoring his side? yeah fuck that.


his "trade me or i retire" is fucking childish and immature.

They should really come up with another term for "contract" when it comes to professional sports. They are unlike any contracts I ever learned of in law school or my career.

MotionMan
 
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Misread the title lol.
 
They should really come up with another term for "contract" when it comes to professional sports. They are unlike any contracts I ever learned of in law school or my career.

MotionMan

I agree.

but the hate and bullshit needs to be going both ways. the team is silly to not trade him but his "trade me or i retire" is just as bad if not worse.
 
I have been a life long Bengals fan, but I am turning my back on them this year.
This is the final straw.
The objective of a sports team is to compete.
By letting Palmer retire, Brown is saying he doesn't care about winning.
How the hell can you be a fan of a team that doesn't want to compete?

I am done. Indy is my new favorite team.
I'm a raiders and bengals fan 🙁

/slits wrists

also any notice how when someone uses the word "honestly" they are lying out their ass?
 
I agree.

but the hate and bullshit needs to be going both ways. the team is silly to not trade him but his "trade me or i retire" is just as bad if not worse.

Actually, I think Palmer has been quite patient. It is not like he has not given them a lot of chances and time to improve things.

MotionMan
 
I agree.
but the hate and bullshit needs to be going both ways. the team is silly to not trade him but his "trade me or i retire" is just as bad if not worse.
Yes, he is a punk for quitting.
Brown doesn't really have a choice but to deny all requests for trade.
It's like negotiating with terrorists. You have to have a hard lined policy, or everyone will request a trade when times are bad.

I still hate Brown for throwing tens of millions of dollars away.
 
I agree.

but the hate and bullshit needs to be going both ways. the team is silly to not trade him but his "trade me or i retire" is just as bad if not worse.

^^
I agree. He signed the contract...fulfill that bitch and move on and don't be a douche. But at the same time they should trade something for him instead of losing everything.
 
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I agree. He signed the contract...fulfill that bitch and move on and don't be a douche. But at the same time they should trade something for him instead of losing everything.

I have a feeling palmer feels that the bengals didn't live up to the promises they made him when he signed the contract.
 
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I agree. He signed the contract...fulfill that bitch and move on and don't be a douche. But at the same time they should trade something for him instead of losing everything.

I have very little sympathy for an owner in this case, when they can release a player at no additional cost to them.

Carson hasn't complained to the media. He hasn't been a distraction to his team. He simply decided that it wasn't worth throwing his body into the meat grinder that is the NFL for another year on a team he knows has no shot of winning. It's the same thing Barry Sanders did.

I'm actually surprised that this doesn't happen more often. If I had made more than enough money to retire, and the job was no longer enjoyable to me, I'd leave in an instant. Wouldn't you?
 
I have been a life long Bengals fan, but I am turning my back on them this year.
This is the final straw.
The objective of a sports team is to compete.
By letting Palmer retire, Brown is saying he doesn't care about winning.
How the hell can you be a fan of a team that doesn't want to compete?

I am done. Indy is my new favorite team.

How so? He's telling people that you signed a contract and are bound to it. I applaud the guy for doing it.
 
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