This thought keeps my mind busy very often...

[joesmoke]

each moment is unique like a snowflake and when they melt away theyre gone forever...

gee waffles and bacon sound good

 

[Brainonska511]

We can only move forward in time because we exist in 3 dimensions. Just like the 2-dimensional flatlanders could only visualize 2-D and had real idea of what it meant to have height, we'd have no idea if we saw a hypercube (4-D cube), as we can only perceive reality in 3-dimensions (and see it merely as a normal cube) and thus only experience reality in 3-dimensions with a memory of what had happened and of what may come to pass. If we existed in 4-dimensions, the memory of what was and what could come to pass would not merely be a memory, but something that we'd potentially have more control over individually. But as we only know 3-D, it is fairly inconceivable that we'd have any idea what it would be like to be a 4-D being, and even if we encountered such a hypothetical beast and it tried to explain it to us, we'd most likely still have no idea. Thus, there is still no 'destiny' or nonsense like that. It just means you didn't really think this whole thing through before posting (which isn't surprising based on the other nonsense you post).

 

[Arcadio]

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
We can only move forward in time because we exist in 3 dimensions. Just like the 2-dimensional flatlanders could only visualize 2-D and had real idea of what it meant to have height, we'd have no idea if we saw a hypercube (4-D cube), as we can only perceive reality in 3-dimensions (and see it merely as a normal cube) and thus only experience reality in 3-dimensions with a memory of what had happened and of what may come to pass. If we existed in 4-dimensions, the memory of what was and what could come to pass would not merely be a memory, but something that we'd potentially have more control over individually. But as we only know 3-D, it is fairly inconceivable that we'd have any idea what it would be like to be a 4-D being, and even if we encountered such a hypothetical beast and it tried to explain it to us, we'd most likely still have no idea. Thus, there is still no 'destiny' or nonsense like that. It just means you didn't really think this whole thing through before posting (which isn't surprising based on the other nonsense you post).

Correction: we exist in 4 dimensions. 3 space and 1 time. Space and Time are two flavors of the same thing.

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: Arcadio

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
We can only move forward in time because we exist in 3 dimensions. Just like the 2-dimensional flatlanders could only visualize 2-D and had real idea of what it meant to have height, we'd have no idea if we saw a hypercube (4-D cube), as we can only perceive reality in 3-dimensions (and see it merely as a normal cube) and thus only experience reality in 3-dimensions with a memory of what had happened and of what may come to pass. If we existed in 4-dimensions, the memory of what was and what could come to pass would not merely be a memory, but something that we'd potentially have more control over individually. But as we only know 3-D, it is fairly inconceivable that we'd have any idea what it would be like to be a 4-D being, and even if we encountered such a hypothetical beast and it tried to explain it to us, we'd most likely still have no idea. Thus, there is still no 'destiny' or nonsense like that. It just means you didn't really think this whole thing through before posting (which isn't surprising based on the other nonsense you post).

Correction: we exist in 4 dimensions. 3 space and 1 time. Space and Time are two flavors of the same thing.

So a minor inconsistency in my thought pathway. But we only really see in 3-space. We don't really have true control over the 4th dimension or truly experience reality as if we were seeing in 4 dimensions.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Arcadio
So we know of 4 dimensions: 3 of space and 1 of time.

We can move freely in any of the 3 dimensions: backwards, forward, sideways.

Actually, what you just described is 2 dimensions.

(not really technical. Any 3-month old fetus would understand it)

Hmm.

 

[Arcadio]

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: Arcadio

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
We can only move forward in time because we exist in 3 dimensions. Just like the 2-dimensional flatlanders could only visualize 2-D and had real idea of what it meant to have height, we'd have no idea if we saw a hypercube (4-D cube), as we can only perceive reality in 3-dimensions (and see it merely as a normal cube) and thus only experience reality in 3-dimensions with a memory of what had happened and of what may come to pass. If we existed in 4-dimensions, the memory of what was and what could come to pass would not merely be a memory, but something that we'd potentially have more control over individually. But as we only know 3-D, it is fairly inconceivable that we'd have any idea what it would be like to be a 4-D being, and even if we encountered such a hypothetical beast and it tried to explain it to us, we'd most likely still have no idea. Thus, there is still no 'destiny' or nonsense like that. It just means you didn't really think this whole thing through before posting (which isn't surprising based on the other nonsense you post).

Correction: we exist in 4 dimensions. 3 space and 1 time. Space and Time are two flavors of the same thing.

So a minor inconsistency in my thought pathway. But we only really see in 3-space. We don't really have true control over the 4th dimension or truly experience reality as if we were seeing in 4 dimensions.

But that doesn't mean what I said is not possible. Time is a dimension in which we cannot "move" freely like the other dimensions. Why not? Because of the way God created us (or nature) Still, there could be a being that can freely move in time. That being could see our future and our past.

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: Arcadio

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: Arcadio

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
We can only move forward in time because we exist in 3 dimensions. Just like the 2-dimensional flatlanders could only visualize 2-D and had real idea of what it meant to have height, we'd have no idea if we saw a hypercube (4-D cube), as we can only perceive reality in 3-dimensions (and see it merely as a normal cube) and thus only experience reality in 3-dimensions with a memory of what had happened and of what may come to pass. If we existed in 4-dimensions, the memory of what was and what could come to pass would not merely be a memory, but something that we'd potentially have more control over individually. But as we only know 3-D, it is fairly inconceivable that we'd have any idea what it would be like to be a 4-D being, and even if we encountered such a hypothetical beast and it tried to explain it to us, we'd most likely still have no idea. Thus, there is still no 'destiny' or nonsense like that. It just means you didn't really think this whole thing through before posting (which isn't surprising based on the other nonsense you post).

Correction: we exist in 4 dimensions. 3 space and 1 time. Space and Time are two flavors of the same thing.

So a minor inconsistency in my thought pathway. But we only really see in 3-space. We don't really have true control over the 4th dimension or truly experience reality as if we were seeing in 4 dimensions.

But that doesn't mean what I said is not possible. Time is a dimension in which we cannot "move" freely like the other dimensions. Why not? Because of the way God created us (or nature) Still, there could be a being that can freely move in time. That being could see our future and our past.

Just because we don't have full control over time doesn't mean we lack choice. It just means that we cannot see all the available outcomes from the choices we make. A free 4-D being could potentially be able to see the outcome of every possible choice we could ever make, but it wouldn't necessarily see every individual choice we'll end up making in the end, as we are not freely moving through 4-d space, more like moving at a discrete pace and eventually falling out altogether (dying).

But in the end, this arguement is kind of pointless, since you're arguing about how a 4-D being could see the world we live in. It's like a 2-d being trying to describe 3-d. No one can accurately describe what it would be like to be able to freely move through time.

 

[Crono]

Time isn't a dimension, nor is it an extension of space or even intertwined with space. The true nature of time cannot be understood by humans. Only a Being that exists outside of time can understand time fully.

 

[waggy]

ugh this is just going to get into a debate over string and M Theory's

 

[Arcadio]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Arcadio
So we know of 4 dimensions: 3 of space and 1 of time.

We can move freely in any of the 3 dimensions: backwards, forward, sideways.

Actually, what you just described is 2 dimensions.

uhhhh, no. 3 dimensions of space and 1 of time = 4 dimensions of space-time.

a point = no dimensions
a line = one spatial dimension
a square = two spatial dimensions
a cube (our world) = three spatial dimensions
a cube right now (as opposed to a few minutes ago) = three spatial dimensions and one of time.

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

Can I buy some pot from you?

 

[Arcadio]

Originally posted by: Crono
Time isn't a dimension, nor is it an extension of space or even intertwined with space. The true nature of time cannot be understood by humans. Only a Being that exists outside of time can understand time fully.

I'll believe you because your username is Crono.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Originally posted by: Arcadio

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: Arcadio

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
We can only move forward in time because we exist in 3 dimensions. Just like the 2-dimensional flatlanders could only visualize 2-D and had real idea of what it meant to have height, we'd have no idea if we saw a hypercube (4-D cube), as we can only perceive reality in 3-dimensions (and see it merely as a normal cube) and thus only experience reality in 3-dimensions with a memory of what had happened and of what may come to pass. If we existed in 4-dimensions, the memory of what was and what could come to pass would not merely be a memory, but something that we'd potentially have more control over individually. But as we only know 3-D, it is fairly inconceivable that we'd have any idea what it would be like to be a 4-D being, and even if we encountered such a hypothetical beast and it tried to explain it to us, we'd most likely still have no idea. Thus, there is still no 'destiny' or nonsense like that. It just means you didn't really think this whole thing through before posting (which isn't surprising based on the other nonsense you post).

Correction: we exist in 4 dimensions. 3 space and 1 time. Space and Time are two flavors of the same thing.

So a minor inconsistency in my thought pathway. But we only really see in 3-space. We don't really have true control over the 4th dimension or truly experience reality as if we were seeing in 4 dimensions.

But that doesn't mean what I said is not possible. Time is a dimension in which we cannot "move" freely like the other dimensions. Why not? Because of the way God created us (or nature) Still, there could be a being that can freely move in time. That being could see our future and our past.

A Flying Spaghetti Monster is also possible. We just can't prove or disprove it, but with a lack of supporting evidence it is your responsibility to provide proof otherwise.

 

[DanTMWTMP]

See Dr. Manhattan

 

[Arcadio]

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus

A Flying Spaghetti Monster is also possible. We just can't prove or disprove it, but with a lack of supporting evidence it is your responsibility to provide proof otherwise.

Well, the only proof I can provide is the proof that time and space are indeed connected and related. And since they are connected, they share some characteristics. Proof provided by this guy named Albert Einstein. Of course, nobody can prove things outside our reality. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. It's just a discussion about some possible interesting scenarios...

 

[Crono]

Originally posted by: Arcadio

Originally posted by: Crono
Time isn't a dimension, nor is it an extension of space or even intertwined with space. The true nature of time cannot be understood by humans. Only a Being that exists outside of time can understand time fully.

I'll believe you because your username is Crono.

Lol. Just so you know, time "travel" isn't possible, however fun it may be to think about, precisely because it isn't a dimension. Only the "forward" direction (metaphorically speaking) is possible. Conceptually, we can imagine time as being a line segment of a fixed length in an expanse of nothingness. The physical universe can be considered a layer spanning over (but not in, nor touching) that line. Human beings are traveling across line that is time, exist/move in the layer that is the physical universe, and also have a presence via the soul in the spirit realm (another layer). This is only for imaginative purposes, though, an nowhere near a full representation of the the universe and of time.

To put it another way, humans exist in 3 spatial dimensions within a realm (physical), and exist in 3 realms total (physical, temporal, spiritual). This theory is not from any textbook, but from my own conceptualization of the biblical account of creation contained within the first verse of the Bible (the uni verse, if you will).

 

[MartyMcFly3]

Originally posted by: CPA
That someone can move forwards and backwards in time. That someone can look into the future or into the past.


That someone is me.

Uhhh no. That someone is me with the help of Doc.

 

[Arkaign]

This thread is like the 'how is babby formed' version of physics. So much fail, but sort of funny.

 

[mundane]

Originally posted by: Arcadio

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Arcadio
So we know of 4 dimensions: 3 of space and 1 of time.

We can move freely in any of the 3 dimensions: backwards, forward, sideways.

Actually, what you just described is 2 dimensions.

uhhhh, no. 3 dimensions of space and 1 of time = 4 dimensions of space-time.

a point = no dimensions
a line = one spatial dimension
a square = two spatial dimensions
a cube (our world) = three spatial dimensions
a cube right now (as opposed to a few minutes ago) = three spatial dimensions and one of time.

The movements you describe are on a plane - backwards and forwards are along the same axis/dimension.

 

[Arcadio]

Originally posted by: mundane

Originally posted by: Arcadio

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Arcadio
So we know of 4 dimensions: 3 of space and 1 of time.

We can move freely in any of the 3 dimensions: backwards, forward, sideways.

Actually, what you just described is 2 dimensions.

uhhhh, no. 3 dimensions of space and 1 of time = 4 dimensions of space-time.

a point = no dimensions
a line = one spatial dimension
a square = two spatial dimensions
a cube (our world) = three spatial dimensions
a cube right now (as opposed to a few minutes ago) = three spatial dimensions and one of time.

The movements you describe are on a plane - backwards and forwards are along the same axis/dimension.

lol.. oh yeah. My mistake. I made a mistake by not providing all the possible movements. It should say:

We can move freely in any of the 3 dimensions: forwards and backwards, sideways, and up and down.

Sorry SagaLore...

 

[Anubis]

there are more then 4

more like 10
http://www.tenthdimension.com/flash2.php

 

[Arcadio]

Originally posted by: Anubis
there are more then 4

more like 10
http://www.tenthdimension.com/flash2.php

True, but if this thread is a mess right now, it would be worse if I started talking about the 10 dimensions that likely exist in reality.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: mundane

Originally posted by: Arcadio

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: Arcadio
So we know of 4 dimensions: 3 of space and 1 of time.

We can move freely in any of the 3 dimensions: backwards, forward, sideways.

Actually, what you just described is 2 dimensions.

uhhhh, no. 3 dimensions of space and 1 of time = 4 dimensions of space-time.

a point = no dimensions
a line = one spatial dimension
a square = two spatial dimensions
a cube (our world) = three spatial dimensions
a cube right now (as opposed to a few minutes ago) = three spatial dimensions and one of time.

The movements you describe are on a plane - backwards and forwards are along the same axis/dimension.

Am I really reading this on here? Are you actually serious?

Give me the coordinates of a point on the center of a plane, using only one axis.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Anubis
there are more then 4

more like 10
http://www.tenthdimension.com/flash2.php

again depending on what theory. M theory says 11

 

[Crono]

Backwards/forwards, left/right, up/down. Those are the movements possible in 3 spatial dimensions. Or, movement along x, y, and z axes.