Anubis
No Lifer
the theroy that books is about, what theroy is that you ask? i have no idea, i just think its a cool flash animation that explains some stuff
someday ill actually read that book
Anubis
No Lifer
ive read about it, just not that specific book the site is talking about, and yes string theroy is some pretty nifty stuff
"At least I didn't have to make up 28 dimensions to make my math work"
"I didn't make them up, they exist"
"In what reality?"
"All of them"
Atomic Playboy
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herm0016
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false. astronomers look at what happened millions of years ago every time they look at a star that is far away. "time" is just a measure of distance on the 4th dimension. like inches in 3space. we can travel forward, we can look back by "moving" backwards in the dimension (looking backwards,or in this case, far, far ahead of where we are now, where the event we are looking at is "stuck" on the tape measure of time. the thing is, we are always moving at a constant velocity through time and the other dimensions, (the speed of light, or C) and the only way to slow our movement through time is to speed up in the other 3 dimensions. velocity in 3 space +velocity in time = C we can move in time, but we only move in relation to our velocity in 3space, more correct, we can only move in time with relation to the absolute value of velocity in 3space.
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we live in a world that can have many dimensions if you define them only slightly differently, and this way illustrates how to think about other dimensions.
how many directions do you need to get to an appointment in a highrise?
you need a street address ( 2 dim) and a time ( 3) and a floor number (4), and a suite number (5) and a room number, or name (6). 6 dimensional directions. just like degrees of freedom in a vibrating system, or states of a polynomial when converting to state space (for our controls engineers) you can have the need for more than 3 initial conditions, or states to solve a problem like getting to a highrise or solving a differential equation. this is no different than having different dimensions to move about in.
what happens when one moves this way in this state (dimension), it changes your position in each of the other dimensions in relation to the one you moved in.
Seeing distant galaxies isn't traveling through time. It's receiving photons that have been traveling for long periods of time. Looking at a photograph isn't you traveling backwards through time, either.
Time is relative, I'll give you that, but it's still linear in our perception of it. You can't alter events that took place yesterday. You can't alter the future for that matter, either. You can only live and handle a moment in time: now. Time is moving in a sense, towards an end, but we aren't really the ones doing the moving, we are just along for the ride.
destrekor
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In order to exert any control in the 4th dimension, we need the ability to manipulate the 5th and 6th dimension... primarily the 5th dimension. This is assuming it is a step, where: (note: the description below is my own interpretation of string theory. don't know anything about M theory, and this list isn't entirely string theory as I don't understand it all that well)
1st dimension can be equated to a singular point with no attributable coordinates
2nd is where points can be connected due to the knowledge of coordinates
3rd is where, like the 2nd, points can be connected due to knowledge of coordinates, but in this dimension, another set of coordinates exists to create three planes.
4th dimension, is again a singular point of representation, no planes, no coordinates can describe the location of this point.
5th dimension, is similar in respect to the 2nd dimension, and
6th dimension is much the same as the 3rd.
Except in this case, the 4th dimension is current time. Time as we define it is really just how we perceive and experience it, and we have our definition of it based on how it experienced here on Earth. Also, our time, at this very moment, is a singular point. No attributable coordinates to plot it, it's just there. We know the point will be somewhere else at any other given moment, but without being able to plot it, it's worthless even imagining tracking it. Now, if we were able to plot it, which would require knowledge of the 5th dimension, in which it is expressed on two planes, then lines can be drawn and our exact moment of time can be plotted using coordinates. To best understand it though, we'd need to knowledge of the 6th dimension in this example. The 5th and 6th dimension, imho, are likely where Einstein's space-time is truly located, and is where gravity comes from. Bends in the fabric of space from the mass of a solar body is what is responsible for gravity according to Einstein, and this fabric of space is referred to as time. It's a plane, but mass distorts it.
Wormholes, as much as they have been used in science fiction, are likely the 'lines' that we would need to plot between points.
Black holes are an immense gravity well, but according to Einstein, the dip they produce in the fabric actually emerges on 'the other side'. While we likely cannot use a black hole as wormholes due to the whole, you know, immense gravity crushing us to nothingness... we'd probably end up learning about worm holes through further study of black holes. They likely could not last for any more time than necessary to enter, because to create that tunnel, something like a black hole is necessary. So if we discover methods to use the 6th dimension, we'd probably simply polar plot a point we wish to travel to, do something fancy and high-tech, and zip through a worm hole, burrowing through space-time.
If any of this will ever prove to be possible completely depends on the current science being sound. In reality, the scientific understanding of space is constantly changing as we discover more and more. That, and this whole post is kind of dependent upon the string theory being good science.
1st dimension can be equated to a singular point with no attributable coordinates
2nd is where points can be connected due to the knowledge of coordinates
3rd is where, like the 2nd, points can be connected due to knowledge of coordinates, but in this dimension, another set of coordinates exists to create three planes.
4th dimension, is again a singular point of representation, no planes, no coordinates can describe the location of this point.
5th dimension, is similar in respect to the 2nd dimension, and
6th dimension is much the same as the 3rd.
Except in this case, the 4th dimension is current time. Time as we define it is really just how we perceive and experience it, and we have our definition of it based on how it experienced here on Earth. Also, our time, at this very moment, is a singular point. No attributable coordinates to plot it, it's just there. We know the point will be somewhere else at any other given moment, but without being able to plot it, it's worthless even imagining tracking it. Now, if we were able to plot it, which would require knowledge of the 5th dimension, in which it is expressed on two planes, then lines can be drawn and our exact moment of time can be plotted using coordinates. To best understand it though, we'd need to knowledge of the 6th dimension in this example. The 5th and 6th dimension, imho, are likely where Einstein's space-time is truly located, and is where gravity comes from. Bends in the fabric of space from the mass of a solar body is what is responsible for gravity according to Einstein, and this fabric of space is referred to as time. It's a plane, but mass distorts it.
Wormholes, as much as they have been used in science fiction, are likely the 'lines' that we would need to plot between points.
Black holes are an immense gravity well, but according to Einstein, the dip they produce in the fabric actually emerges on 'the other side'. While we likely cannot use a black hole as wormholes due to the whole, you know, immense gravity crushing us to nothingness... we'd probably end up learning about worm holes through further study of black holes. They likely could not last for any more time than necessary to enter, because to create that tunnel, something like a black hole is necessary. So if we discover methods to use the 6th dimension, we'd probably simply polar plot a point we wish to travel to, do something fancy and high-tech, and zip through a worm hole, burrowing through space-time.
If any of this will ever prove to be possible completely depends on the current science being sound. In reality, the scientific understanding of space is constantly changing as we discover more and more. That, and this whole post is kind of dependent upon the string theory being good science.
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