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FoBoT

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Aren't people allowed to have a different belief system? You have no problem with Halloween, he does; there's nothing wrong with that.

I too have fond memories of Halloween as a child.

it seems that it is perfectly acceptable to hammer people for thier religious beliefs, most people don't publically use racial slurs these days, but religious slurs seem to be just fine to most people
 

FoBoT

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Originally posted by: cpals
Originally posted by: DaviDaVinci
Originally posted by: y2kc
My wife doesn't celebrate it because of her religion, my kids therefore don't either (nor do they care). I could care less either way, i always despised Halloween, even as a child. it's a stupid tradition if you ask me, but to those who "celebrate" it, Keep On Truckin'.

Which religion is it against to celebrate or paticipate in Halloween activities?

At my church (Baptist) we don't celebrate Halloween, but they put on like a fall festival or whatever as an alternative for the family. Pretty nice.

there are many christians that think Halloween is bad due to the old ties it had with pagen holidays

these days of course its about increasing candy sales and kids having fun, but some people want to seperate themselves from halloween due to its past associations

to each his own
 

wyvrn

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Feb 15, 2000
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This is ironic since many historians believe Halloween originated from a Celtic Irish ritual warding away dead spirits looking for new bodies to in habit at the end of every year. I believe the Celts were Catholic. Trick or treating is believed to come from medieval Europe, where prayers were offered in exchange for cakes. Seems like Christians today do not understand the history of All Hallows Eve and are knee-jerk reacting. I could understand not wanting to celebrate what is now mainly a commercial holiday, but for reasons of "satan-worshiping" and "evil" is just a plain uneducated response.
 

beer

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This is why I am going to dress up as an evalangical christian for halloween.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Descartes
Aren't people allowed to have a different belief system? You have no problem with Halloween, he does; there's nothing wrong with that.

I too have fond memories of Halloween as a child.

it seems that it is perfectly acceptable to hammer people for thier religious beliefs, most people don't publically use racial slurs these days, but religious slurs seem to be just fine to most people
You can't help what race you are but you sure can do something about crazy beliefs.
 

moshquerade

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Yall gone make me lose my mind
up in here, up in here,
Yall gone make me go all out
up in here, up in here,
Yall gone make me act a fool
up in here, up in here,
Yall gone make me lose my cool
up in here, up in here,

 

wyvrn

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: cpals
Originally posted by: DaviDaVinci
Originally posted by: y2kc
My wife doesn't celebrate it because of her religion, my kids therefore don't either (nor do they care). I could care less either way, i always despised Halloween, even as a child. it's a stupid tradition if you ask me, but to those who "celebrate" it, Keep On Truckin'.

Which religion is it against to celebrate or paticipate in Halloween activities?

At my church (Baptist) we don't celebrate Halloween, but they put on like a fall festival or whatever as an alternative for the family. Pretty nice.

there are many christians that think Halloween is bad due to the old ties it had with pagen holidays

these days of course its about increasing candy sales and kids having fun, but some people want to seperate themselves from halloween due to its past associations

to each his own


There is very little evidence Halloween had ties to pagans. Click me There is much more evidence that Halloween has ties to different Christian groups.
 

Drakkon

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My aunt and uncle used to be the funnest people I knew...they celebrated every holiday under the sun....halloween being one of the most important with getting there kids all elaborate...and there kids were always into a lot of interesting things and activities.
Then they became Jehovas Witnesses and moved to the middle of nowhere CA (about 50 miles from any small town)....now their kids are the most boring annoying kids on the planet...they only listen to country gospel music...dont celebrate any holiday...will not accept presents from any family members...dont even celebrate the kids birthdays anymore...luckly they finally let my cousin online and she is finally learning about the outside world...but other than that its like they no longer wanna face the real world...its sad but i guess its their "thing"...but i do think its wrong to deprive the kids from all of that...i mean half the experience of being a kid is exciting moments and activities...if you take away all taht stimulation...that can't be good...
 

kami

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I remember when I was a kid my local catholic church would give out candy..
 

no0b

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Originally posted by: kami
I remember when I was a kid my local catholic church would give out candy..

my catholic grade school did a whole thing with halloween. Took up a whole day every year to teach us on the history of halloween and generaly have a good time passing out candy and playing games.

I bet if you look into the stats of the funny mentals you will find more in the non catholic sect.
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Descartes
Aren't people allowed to have a different belief system? You have no problem with Halloween, he does; there's nothing wrong with that.

I too have fond memories of Halloween as a child.

it seems that it is perfectly acceptable to hammer people for thier religious beliefs, most people don't publically use racial slurs these days, but religious slurs seem to be just fine to most people
You can't help what race you are but you sure can do something about crazy beliefs.

don't tell that to micheal jackson.
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
so you disagree with his religious views?

maybe you just shouldn't talk to him about non-work related stuff

his views are effed IMO
 

amcdonald

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Originally posted by: Elemental007
This is why I am going to dress up as an evalangical christian for halloween.
Thats giong to be hard considering evalangical isn't a word.

whats the big deal? when hindu or muslim parents act crazy because of their religion its normal, but when good ol' fashioned white people are overtly religious people freak out. When I was a kid I had plenty of friends with "eccentric" parents (alcoholic/abusive/drug-using/crazy) ...So missing out on halloween doesn't seem like a big deal. At least their parents love them (a fair assumption) and look out for what they think is their best interest...
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: amcdonald
Originally posted by: Elemental007
This is why I am going to dress up as an evalangical christian for halloween.
Thats giong to be hard considering evalangical isn't a word.

whats the big deal? when hindu or muslim parents act crazy because of their religion its normal, but when good ol' fashioned white people are overtly religious people freak out. When I was a kid I had plenty of friends with "eccentric" parents (alcoholic/abusive/drug-using/crazy) ...So missing out on halloween doesn't seem like a big deal. At least their parents love them (a fair assumption) and look out for what they think is their best interest...
A whacko is a whacko no matter what myth or religion they believe in.

 

dokster

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AFAIK, Halloween is a blend of many things...

The druids (Celts, in some fashion were druids) had a holiday in which they called "Samhayne" (very many different spellings on this word) in which one of their gods dies. In his passing between worlds, he weakened the veil between the world between the living and the dead. Thus, on Halloween night (although, I do not believe that Samhayne was celebrated on the same day we celebrate Halloween -- it was sometime in October, however) ghost both good and bad roam the streets. It was a time where families left extra food on the table, to welcome old ancestors back to dine with them. However, if you stepped out of the house, people usually tried to dress like someone else -- to avoid vengeful spirits. Common "disguises" included stuff like...cross-dressing, and dressing like a ghost. Hence, the costume part of Halloween.

If I remember correctly, they would also hang certain decorations from window sills, primarily for superstitious purposes of "warding" bad spirits away. While, I think originally they used some sort of root; this tradition is believed by some to have been the origins of the Jack-o-lantern. The traditional is probably most closesly preserved from its original form as it evolved into today's Spanish/Mexican holiday: The Day of the Dead.

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I don't have sources on my info...I did some research several years ago as part of a project to join some groups in an online game... Thus, everything I read was from random websites -- which aren't very reliable as far as sources of information... BUT, within my small group, the above information was widely accepted.
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Originally posted by: gistech1978
i work with a guy like that
if you arent a southern baptist youre going to hell.
he probably thinks mother teresa or the freakin pope are in/going to hell. if you want to get him started, mention catholocism around him.
hes a complete fanatical-protestant headcase. he wont buy kodak film because they offer benefits to same-sex partners. i wonder how much he watches ABC or his grandchildren watch Disney movies?
he leaves these fliers for revivals and crap in my office all the time, next time he asks me to come to his church im going to tell him "i will make it my business not to attend, thank you."

uh, just report him to HR? Leaving religious fliers in your office is not professional behavior at work.
 

xizor

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wow, someone doens't have the same views as you so therefore he's crazy. let me guess, you bash Christians for being close minded too. i'd rather see parents caring about what their kids do no matter what their views are then parents who don't care a bit.
 

y2kc

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Originally posted by: Phocas
Originally posted by: DaviDaVinci
Originally posted by: y2kc
My wife doesn't celebrate it because of her religion, my kids therefore don't either (nor do they care). I could care less either way, i always despised Halloween, even as a child. it's a stupid tradition if you ask me, but to those who "celebrate" it, Keep On Truckin'.

Which religion is it against to celebrate or paticipate in Halloween activities?

Jehovas Witness'?


nope. she attends a non-denominational church.
 

CraigRT

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Jun 16, 2000
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heh, sounds like a total dumbass... that isn't healthy for the kids

how will they be around other normal kids?

bad.....
 

DT4K

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Descartes
Aren't people allowed to have a different belief system? You have no problem with Halloween, he does; there's nothing wrong with that.

I too have fond memories of Halloween as a child.

it seems that it is perfectly acceptable to hammer people for thier religious beliefs, most people don't publically use racial slurs these days, but religious slurs seem to be just fine to most people
You can't help what race you are but you sure can do something about crazy beliefs.
Don't tell that to Red Dawn.

Oh, wait, ...

 

WinkOsmosis

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Sep 18, 2002
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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: cpals
Originally posted by: DaviDaVinci
Originally posted by: y2kc
My wife doesn't celebrate it because of her religion, my kids therefore don't either (nor do they care). I could care less either way, i always despised Halloween, even as a child. it's a stupid tradition if you ask me, but to those who "celebrate" it, Keep On Truckin'.

Which religion is it against to celebrate or paticipate in Halloween activities?

At my church (Baptist) we don't celebrate Halloween, but they put on like a fall festival or whatever as an alternative for the family. Pretty nice.

there are many christians that think Halloween is bad due to the old ties it had with pagen holidays

these days of course its about increasing candy sales and kids having fun, but some people want to seperate themselves from halloween due to its past associations

to each his own

I'd rather celebrate the Celtic new year than follow an evil religion like Christianity.
 

Yossarian451

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Apr 11, 2002
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Originally posted by: dokster
AFAIK, Halloween is a blend of many things...

The druids (Celts, in some fashion were druids) had a holiday in which they called "Samhayne" (very many different spellings on this word) in which one of their gods dies. In his passing between worlds, he weakened the veil between the world between the living and the dead. Thus, on Halloween night (although, I do not believe that Samhayne was celebrated on the same day we celebrate Halloween -- it was sometime in October, however) ghost both good and bad roam the streets. It was a time where families left extra food on the table, to welcome old ancestors back to dine with them. However, if you stepped out of the house, people usually tried to dress like someone else -- to avoid vengeful spirits. Common "disguises" included stuff like...cross-dressing, and dressing like a ghost. Hence, the costume part of Halloween.

If I remember correctly, they would also hang certain decorations from window sills, primarily for superstitious purposes of "warding" bad spirits away. While, I think originally they used some sort of root; this tradition is believed by some to have been the origins of the Jack-o-lantern. The traditional is probably most closesly preserved from its original form as it evolved into today's Spanish/Mexican holiday: The Day of the Dead.

<firewall>
I don't have sources on my info...I did some research several years ago as part of a project to join some groups in an online game... Thus, everything I read was from random websites -- which aren't very reliable as far as sources of information... BUT, within my small group, the above information was widely accepted.
</firewall>

You are mostly correct. Also the catholic church combined all saints day witht the druid holliday to make "all hallows eve" which was both a celebration of the saints of the church who had passed and the druid holliday. They were costumes to scre away evil and is in no way "Devils Holiday", people are just retarded when it comes to religious beliefs. Quite funny.