this mta strike in NYC

[amdhunter]

Originally posted by: gotsmack
if what they are doing is illegal can't they just throw the workers in jail?

I'd just fire them, there are workers out there that would gladly do their jobs for 1/2 the money and benefits.

 

[Linux23]

Originally posted by: amdhunter

Originally posted by: gotsmack
if what they are doing is illegal can't they just throw the workers in jail?

I'd just fire them, there are workers out there that would gladly do their jobs for 1/2 the money and benefits.

yes, lets see you hire and train 33,000 workers in less than 24 hours.:roll:

 

[gotsmack]

yea. but they have to bring in some strike breakers from chicago and detroit, maybe a few places in the south that can drive up here in a few hours first. get a few of the lines running

maybe have a program set up for volunteer transit worers. just like volunteer firefighters.

 

[amdhunter]

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: amdhunter

Originally posted by: gotsmack
if what they are doing is illegal can't they just throw the workers in jail?

I'd just fire them, there are workers out there that would gladly do their jobs for 1/2 the money and benefits.

yes, lets see you hire and train 33,000 workers in less than 24 hours.:roll:

There are thousands of people who paid a crapload of money to take MTA city exams who never heard a peep from them.

Now is a good chance to go through that list of people. It's not like any of those 33,000 jobs require and real skill anyway...

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: amdhunter

Originally posted by: gotsmack
if what they are doing is illegal can't they just throw the workers in jail?

I'd just fire them, there are workers out there that would gladly do their jobs for 1/2 the money and benefits.

yes, lets see you hire and train 33,000 workers in less than 24 hours.:roll:

would you be opposed to them doing that all along to phase out the union ?

 

[Linux23]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: Linux23
I'm 100% on the TWU side. The MTA are a bunch of crooks with suits on.

That can be a valid opinion, but what about the TWU side ? What are your thoughts on them and what they're illegally doing ?

Also, do you know anyone in the TWU ?

don't know anyone in the TWU, but I can sympathize.

a lot of people on this board thinks it is all about the money, but the TWU said they are willing to go to 3% raises if the MTA would lighten up on disciplinary actions.

 

[aswedc]

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: Linux23
I'm 100% on the TWU side. The MTA are a bunch of crooks with suits on.

That can be a valid opinion, but what about the TWU side ? What are your thoughts on them and what they're illegally doing ?

Also, do you know anyone in the TWU ?

don't know anyone in the TWU, but I can sympathize.

a lot of people on this board thinks it is all about the money, but the TWU said they are willing to go to 3% raises if the MTA would lighten up on disciplinary actions.

Same old crap they pulled in Philly. Disciplinary actions :roll:. Guess what, don't do anything wrong and just collect your 50k paycheck - and there won't be any disciplinary actions!

Jail em all and set an example for transit unions across the country...

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: Linux23
I'm 100% on the TWU side. The MTA are a bunch of crooks with suits on.

That can be a valid opinion, but what about the TWU side ? What are your thoughts on them and what they're illegally doing ?

Also, do you know anyone in the TWU ?

don't know anyone in the TWU, but I can sympathize.

a lot of people on this board thinks it is all about the money, but the TWU said they are willing to go to 3% raises if the MTA would lighten up on disciplinary actions.

Where did you hear this, and what exactly are "discinplinary actions?" Asking the MTA to lighten up on "disciplinary actions" sounds like code word to me for "we want to do bad stuff and get away with it".

Still doesnt fly in my book.

The plain and simple fact is that this strike is absolutely and utterly unjustified. They are ALREADY overpaid! The MTA was offering them an absolutely REASONABLE contract. They are greedy, plain and simple, they are already sh*tty workers, and on top of that, they are holding THE ENTIRE CITY hostage. Its not like an automobile plant going on strike. Half of the city cant get to work!

 

[Linux23]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: Linux23
I'm 100% on the TWU side. The MTA are a bunch of crooks with suits on.

That can be a valid opinion, but what about the TWU side ? What are your thoughts on them and what they're illegally doing ?

Also, do you know anyone in the TWU ?

don't know anyone in the TWU, but I can sympathize.

a lot of people on this board thinks it is all about the money, but the TWU said they are willing to go to 3% raises if the MTA would lighten up on disciplinary actions.

Where did you hear this, and what exactly are "discinplinary actions?" Asking the MTA to lighten up on "disciplinary actions" sounds like code word to me for "we want to do bad stuff and get away with it".

Still doesnt fly in my book.

The plain and simple fact is that this strike is absolutely and utterly unjustified. They are ALREADY overpaid! The MTA was offering them an absolutely REASONABLE contract. They are greedy, plain and simple, they are already sh*tty workers, and on top of that, they are holding THE ENTIRE CITY hostage. Its not like an automobile plant going on strike. Half of the city cant get to work!

for starters, bus and train operators getting written up for taking longer than 4 minutes to use the bathroom. i mean, just image how messed up it is if you have to take a crap, and you spend 5 minutes doing your business as quickly as possible, and you get written up for it.

 

[Epic Fail]

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: Linux23
I'm 100% on the TWU side. The MTA are a bunch of crooks with suits on.

That can be a valid opinion, but what about the TWU side ? What are your thoughts on them and what they're illegally doing ?

Also, do you know anyone in the TWU ?

don't know anyone in the TWU, but I can sympathize.

a lot of people on this board thinks it is all about the money, but the TWU said they are willing to go to 3% raises if the MTA would lighten up on disciplinary actions.

Where did you hear this, and what exactly are "discinplinary actions?" Asking the MTA to lighten up on "disciplinary actions" sounds like code word to me for "we want to do bad stuff and get away with it".

Still doesnt fly in my book.

The plain and simple fact is that this strike is absolutely and utterly unjustified. They are ALREADY overpaid! The MTA was offering them an absolutely REASONABLE contract. They are greedy, plain and simple, they are already sh*tty workers, and on top of that, they are holding THE ENTIRE CITY hostage. Its not like an automobile plant going on strike. Half of the city cant get to work!

for starters, bus and train operators getting written up for taking longer than 4 minutes to use the bathroom. i mean, just image how messed up it is if you have to take a crap, and you spend 5 minutes doing your business as quickly as possible, and you get written up for it.

If they allow longer bathroom breaks, you don't think people will start abusing the policy?

 

[aswedc]

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: Linux23
I'm 100% on the TWU side. The MTA are a bunch of crooks with suits on.

That can be a valid opinion, but what about the TWU side ? What are your thoughts on them and what they're illegally doing ?

Also, do you know anyone in the TWU ?

don't know anyone in the TWU, but I can sympathize.

a lot of people on this board thinks it is all about the money, but the TWU said they are willing to go to 3% raises if the MTA would lighten up on disciplinary actions.

Where did you hear this, and what exactly are "discinplinary actions?" Asking the MTA to lighten up on "disciplinary actions" sounds like code word to me for "we want to do bad stuff and get away with it".

Still doesnt fly in my book.

The plain and simple fact is that this strike is absolutely and utterly unjustified. They are ALREADY overpaid! The MTA was offering them an absolutely REASONABLE contract. They are greedy, plain and simple, they are already sh*tty workers, and on top of that, they are holding THE ENTIRE CITY hostage. Its not like an automobile plant going on strike. Half of the city cant get to work!

for starters, bus and train operators getting written up for taking longer than 4 minutes to use the bathroom. i mean, just image how messed up it is if you have to take a crap, and you spend 5 minutes doing your business as quickly as possible, and you get written up for it.

I'd hold it all day to make 50k driving a train!

 

[pclstyle]

Originally posted by: yamadakun

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: Linux23
I'm 100% on the TWU side. The MTA are a bunch of crooks with suits on.

That can be a valid opinion, but what about the TWU side ? What are your thoughts on them and what they're illegally doing ?

Also, do you know anyone in the TWU ?

don't know anyone in the TWU, but I can sympathize.

a lot of people on this board thinks it is all about the money, but the TWU said they are willing to go to 3% raises if the MTA would lighten up on disciplinary actions.

Where did you hear this, and what exactly are "discinplinary actions?" Asking the MTA to lighten up on "disciplinary actions" sounds like code word to me for "we want to do bad stuff and get away with it".

Still doesnt fly in my book.

The plain and simple fact is that this strike is absolutely and utterly unjustified. They are ALREADY overpaid! The MTA was offering them an absolutely REASONABLE contract. They are greedy, plain and simple, they are already sh*tty workers, and on top of that, they are holding THE ENTIRE CITY hostage. Its not like an automobile plant going on strike. Half of the city cant get to work!

for starters, bus and train operators getting written up for taking longer than 4 minutes to use the bathroom. i mean, just image how messed up it is if you have to take a crap, and you spend 5 minutes doing your business as quickly as possible, and you get written up for it.

If they allow longer bathroom breaks, you don't think people will start abusing the policy?

yep, that's why they should be trained on how to clip it. they can finish up during then next hour's 4 minute break.

 

[Linux23]

Originally posted by: yamadakun

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: Linux23
I'm 100% on the TWU side. The MTA are a bunch of crooks with suits on.

That can be a valid opinion, but what about the TWU side ? What are your thoughts on them and what they're illegally doing ?

Also, do you know anyone in the TWU ?

don't know anyone in the TWU, but I can sympathize.

a lot of people on this board thinks it is all about the money, but the TWU said they are willing to go to 3% raises if the MTA would lighten up on disciplinary actions.

Where did you hear this, and what exactly are "discinplinary actions?" Asking the MTA to lighten up on "disciplinary actions" sounds like code word to me for "we want to do bad stuff and get away with it".

Still doesnt fly in my book.

The plain and simple fact is that this strike is absolutely and utterly unjustified. They are ALREADY overpaid! The MTA was offering them an absolutely REASONABLE contract. They are greedy, plain and simple, they are already sh*tty workers, and on top of that, they are holding THE ENTIRE CITY hostage. Its not like an automobile plant going on strike. Half of the city cant get to work!

for starters, bus and train operators getting written up for taking longer than 4 minutes to use the bathroom. i mean, just image how messed up it is if you have to take a crap, and you spend 5 minutes doing your business as quickly as possible, and you get written up for it.

If they allow longer bathroom breaks, you don't think people will start abusing the policy?

then deal with them individually. don't penalize me for having bowel issues. unless you expect them to relieve themselves on duty? granted, they are, based on the general concensus here uneducated, low-life scumbags.:roll:

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: Linux23
I'm 100% on the TWU side. The MTA are a bunch of crooks with suits on.

That can be a valid opinion, but what about the TWU side ? What are your thoughts on them and what they're illegally doing ?

Also, do you know anyone in the TWU ?

don't know anyone in the TWU, but I can sympathize.

a lot of people on this board thinks it is all about the money, but the TWU said they are willing to go to 3% raises if the MTA would lighten up on disciplinary actions.

Where did you hear this, and what exactly are "discinplinary actions?" Asking the MTA to lighten up on "disciplinary actions" sounds like code word to me for "we want to do bad stuff and get away with it".

Still doesnt fly in my book.

The plain and simple fact is that this strike is absolutely and utterly unjustified. They are ALREADY overpaid! The MTA was offering them an absolutely REASONABLE contract. They are greedy, plain and simple, they are already sh*tty workers, and on top of that, they are holding THE ENTIRE CITY hostage. Its not like an automobile plant going on strike. Half of the city cant get to work!

for starters, bus and train operators getting written up for taking longer than 4 minutes to use the bathroom. i mean, just image how messed up it is if you have to take a crap, and you spend 5 minutes doing your business as quickly as possible, and you get written up for it.

heh I wonder why such a policy would be created in the first place. These aren't the most hard working characters amongst us. "Bathroom time" would definitely be abused if there were no stated limits. They're a union... maybe some slacker took too long a break too often and screwed the rest of his union buddies over. Sucks for all of them. Solidarity. Another example of how they aren't allowed to pick and choose which policies / laws to obey.

 

[Linux23]

Originally posted by: aswedc

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: Linux23
I'm 100% on the TWU side. The MTA are a bunch of crooks with suits on.

That can be a valid opinion, but what about the TWU side ? What are your thoughts on them and what they're illegally doing ?

Also, do you know anyone in the TWU ?

don't know anyone in the TWU, but I can sympathize.

a lot of people on this board thinks it is all about the money, but the TWU said they are willing to go to 3% raises if the MTA would lighten up on disciplinary actions.

Where did you hear this, and what exactly are "discinplinary actions?" Asking the MTA to lighten up on "disciplinary actions" sounds like code word to me for "we want to do bad stuff and get away with it".

Still doesnt fly in my book.

The plain and simple fact is that this strike is absolutely and utterly unjustified. They are ALREADY overpaid! The MTA was offering them an absolutely REASONABLE contract. They are greedy, plain and simple, they are already sh*tty workers, and on top of that, they are holding THE ENTIRE CITY hostage. Its not like an automobile plant going on strike. Half of the city cant get to work!

for starters, bus and train operators getting written up for taking longer than 4 minutes to use the bathroom. i mean, just image how messed up it is if you have to take a crap, and you spend 5 minutes doing your business as quickly as possible, and you get written up for it.

I'd hold it all day to make 50k driving a train!

i hope that you are kidding here.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Zee
What's ridiculous is the demands these workers are making. They probably are getting a better deal than you and your "college educated" job

Maybe OP should quit his crappy job with his asshole boss and look into becoming a subway token scab.

 

[thespeakerbox]

HOW LONG WILL IT LAST!!!!!!

 

[KLin]

NYTU fined 1 million per day.

 

[loup garou]

Fvcking idiot city councilman being interviewed on Fox5 says Bloomberg calling their tactics "thuggish" had racial overtones. What a fvcking moron. :|

Also said that the workers had to deal with "rail dust" and "steel dust" and rodent problems and that's why they should get everything they want. How do bus drivers have to deal with these conditions? And WTF about me, I have to deal with those conditions too, where's my money, bitches???

 

[loup garou]

oops, quoted instead of edited.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: KLin
NYTU fined 1 million per day.

Which divded amongst 30000 workers equals to a WHOPPING....hold your breath now....33 dollars and 33 cents. They must be really hurting now. Oh judicial branch, you are too cruel.

 

[glugglug]

Which is more difficult, running a train, or making fries at McDonald's?
That's what I thought.

Not that the MTA isn't a bunch of thieves also.

 

[oboeguy]

I stood in line (fruitlessly) at BB for a 360 and talked with a bus driver. Apparently it's policy (they got a memo) to not pee out the back door of the bus. He said so he pees out the front door of the bus. I kid you not, that's what he said.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: glugglug
Which is more difficult, running a train, or making fries at McDonald's?
That's what I thought.

Not that the MTA isn't a bunch of thieves also.

Get real and give me a break. As a kid, I used to watch them drive the trains all day long. All it requires is moving a handle to move the train, and using the brake to stop the train. Along with following a few "traffic lights". Thats it. Driving is harder, and Id suspect that most people who make fries at mcdonalds drive to work.

The guy who controls the doors in the middle of the train has 4 buttons to deal with, and an annoucement of which station they are at, and which station they is next. Which they dont even make half of the time.

And honestly, the deep frier is probably more complicated than that, and the cash register is DEFINIETLY more complicated.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: oboeguy
I stood in line (fruitlessly) at BB for a 360 and talked with a bus driver. Apparently it's policy (they got a memo) to not pee out the back door of the bus. He said so he pees out the front door of the bus. I kid you not, that's what he said.

Some of the buses, it smells like they don't bother opening either door.

Either that or 4 minutes isn't enough time to give it a shake.