this mta strike in NYC

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Stifko

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Originally posted by: EXccord
are you shittng me???? 40k-55k a year?!?!?!?!? WTF...i live in texas and minimum wage is 5.15 here. Dude, i mean what the ******...i bust my ass and im getting 9.25, you dont see me complaining, im making DECENT/ACCEPTABLE money, but i wouldnt ****** complain about that ****** upthere

yeah okay but what is your cost of living in Tx? You can probably rent a one bedroom apartment for penuts there and get free BBQ sauce thrown in. Try to get an place to live in NYC for under $1500.oo/month, buddy.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: MrChad
Originally posted by: Led Zeppelin
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Welcome to a world without mass transit. I have never lived in an area with it.

Me either, unless you call a bus that comes by every hour "mass transit". If you've ever been to NYC, you'd see mostly everyone can stand to shed a few pounds. Walk, you lazy MOFO's.

:roll: Since moving to New York a year and a half ago, I can safely say that I walk a LOT more than I used to on an average day.
I'm watching the people walk around on live tv right now... 90% of them are slim. The obese ones wouldn't be walking regardless.
 

rh71

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Interviewing union people on the streets right now. They are so eager to get back to work. After 2 days standing in the cold, I doubt they care about the money anymore. :D One TWU guy even said "I don't agree with the strike, but we have to back the union."

Down with unions.
 

Taggart

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Seems like the threat of PMITA prison is a good motivator!

I agree about eliminating unions. Workers have SO MUCH power nowadays compared to the 1800's and early 1900's.
 

sniperruff

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Originally posted by: Taggart
Seems like the threat of PMITA prison is a good motivator!

I agree about eliminating unions. Workers have SO MUCH power nowadays compared to the 1800's and early 1900's.

either they have too much power or not enough. my $40 a month union fees don't do jack for us except cutting our educational benefits and everyone of us have to work OT without pay. bastards.
 

Pepsei

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: EXccord
are you shittng me???? 40k-55k a year?!?!?!?!? WTF...i live in texas and minimum wage is 5.15 here. Dude, i mean what the ******...i bust my ass and im getting 9.25, you dont see me complaining, im making DECENT/ACCEPTABLE money, but i wouldnt ****** complain about that ****** upthere

Then take your azz to New York City and see how far 40K will go, since you seem to knwo all about it :roll:

yes, 40k-55k isn't much in NYC. I have an engineer buddy that started out at 70k 5-6 years ago, and he had to live in Long Island because NYC is too expensive.
 

sniperruff

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Originally posted by: Pepsei
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: EXccord
are you shittng me???? 40k-55k a year?!?!?!?!? WTF...i live in texas and minimum wage is 5.15 here. Dude, i mean what the ******...i bust my ass and im getting 9.25, you dont see me complaining, im making DECENT/ACCEPTABLE money, but i wouldnt ****** complain about that ****** upthere

Then take your azz to New York City and see how far 40K will go, since you seem to knwo all about it :roll:

yes, 40k-55k isn't much in NYC. I have a engineer buddy that started out at 70k 5-6 years ago, and he had to live in Long Island because NYC is too expensive.

LI is not cheaper than NYC in a lot of areas. Queens/BK would be a better choice.
 

EPCrew

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Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: Pepsei
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: EXccord
are you shittng me???? 40k-55k a year?!?!?!?!? WTF...i live in texas and minimum wage is 5.15 here. Dude, i mean what the ******...i bust my ass and im getting 9.25, you dont see me complaining, im making DECENT/ACCEPTABLE money, but i wouldnt ****** complain about that ****** upthere

Then take your azz to New York City and see how far 40K will go, since you seem to knwo all about it :roll:

yes, 40k-55k isn't much in NYC. I have a engineer buddy that started out at 70k 5-6 years ago, and he had to live in Long Island because NYC is too expensive.

LI is not cheaper than NYC in a lot of areas. Queens/BK would be a better choice.

Queens would definitely be a better choice if you want to save more. 70k is feasible in NYC as well. There are ways to make it work. you would have to sacrifice space if you want to live by yourself, or look for a share and get a larger apt.

i've been living in NYC for the last 5-6 years and apt rates back then were much less expensive. as a matter of fact, i lived in soho back then and moved out because my 1 BR apt rate was bumped up to 2400. that same apt is going for over 3000 now. i checked about a month ago. the location was awesome.

 

BD2003

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Theyve been married for 38 years, thats not shocking. We already know theyre overpaid besides that though.
 

xospec1alk

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Originally posted by: BD2003
Theyve been married for 38 years, thats not shocking. We already know theyre overpaid besides that though.

still...just saying its not like 55k is totally unsurvivable...

and STRIKE IS OVER!! w000t!
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: EXccord
are you shittng me???? 40k-55k a year?!?!?!?!? WTF...i live in texas and minimum wage is 5.15 here. Dude, i mean what the ******...i bust my ass and im getting 9.25, you dont see me complaining, im making DECENT/ACCEPTABLE money, but i wouldnt ****** complain about that ****** upthere

Then take your azz to New York City and see how far 40K will go, since you seem to knwo all about it :roll:

Back to reality, you know as well as I do 40k is more than enough to live in queens. And besides, the vast majority of jobs doing equal work that the mta workers are doing in NYC is probably somewhere around 8-10 dollars an hour, so yes, they are overpaid.
 

Zim Hosein

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New York City Transit Strike Over!
Union Accepts Deal To End Strike

POSTED: 7:18 am EST December 14, 2005
UPDATED: 2:48 pm EST December 22, 2005

NEW YORK -- The city's crippling three-day mass transit strike ended Thursday after union leaders -- facing mounting fines, possible jail terms and the wrath of millions of commuters -- voted to return their 33,000 members to work without a new contract.

New York City Transit Strike Over! :)
 

abc

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Originally posted by: Pepsei
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: EXccord
are you shittng me???? 40k-55k a year?!?!?!?!? WTF...i live in texas and minimum wage is 5.15 here. Dude, i mean what the ******...i bust my ass and im getting 9.25, you dont see me complaining, im making DECENT/ACCEPTABLE money, but i wouldnt ****** complain about that ****** upthere

Then take your azz to New York City and see how far 40K will go, since you seem to knwo all about it :roll:

yes, 40k-55k isn't much in NYC. I have an engineer buddy that started out at 70k 5-6 years ago, and he had to live in Long Island because NYC is too expensive.


course it's not 'too' much BUT!!!! when you probably have a good chunk of people in NYC of 4yr college degree holding professionals who may still have some loans also make that amt, and in private jobs where they may lose their jobs due to company/performance/economic matters, and where your salary does not go up but your medical premiums go up 4,5, 10pct in some yrs, deducted our of your paycheck...
and you don't get to retire at 55 to collect '1/2' pension which is like 25K per yr.....
And you can't wait and save all your work for after 5PM because you can start working OT...

and you are requesting for 8% ea. yr, for ea. of the next three yrs salary increase, after your previous contract in which you negiotiated raises already?

wow???
 

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Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
New York City Transit Strike Over!
Union Accepts Deal To End Strike

POSTED: 7:18 am EST December 14, 2005
UPDATED: 2:48 pm EST December 22, 2005

NEW YORK -- The city's crippling three-day mass transit strike ended Thursday after union leaders -- facing mounting fines, possible jail terms and the wrath of millions of commuters -- voted to return their 33,000 members to work without a new contract.

New York City Transit Strike Over! :)

Sure, after the TWU went bankrupt.
 

abc

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: sniperruff
"8 a.m.: "Jail 'Em" reads the New York Post's front page headline, referring to union leaders. The Daily News goes with "War of the Words.""

even though i don't support the TWU, these republican newspapers are so blunt they are disgusting.

nothing wrong with blunt headlines. when people are holding the city hostage i think its good to be blunt.


they want headlines that will wow someone 15yrs later looking back on today.
 

Linux23

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Originally posted by: Led Zeppelin
Damn, I was hoping this would last until New Years, see how it effected Times Square on 12/31.

yeah, i'm pissed it didn't last more than 3 days. :|
 

abc

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Originally posted by: rh71
Interviewing union people on the streets right now. They are so eager to get back to work. After 2 days standing in the cold, I doubt they care about the money anymore. :D One TWU guy even said "I don't agree with the strike, but we have to back the union."

Down with unions.


They DO... about having fines continue to amass and having to PAY IT for pulling their illegal shiet.

But now these beeyotches are asking for Taylor Law amnesty! Because they've done the good faith thing? (watch them paint themselves that way) for the city and come back to work? w/o a contract?...yeah, to the jobs they abandoned?

Noo.... how are any of the citizens who WANTED to get to their jobs, who've now lost money, and how's the city who lost tax revenue, supposed to get their monies back. Nobody in these parties did anything... illegal.

They better rule to inforce these fines, the more elemental part is they knew what they were getting into, and they still did it.

The final issue is, what use is the Taylor Law when someone can break it, and you gonna let them pass.

They're coming back because they're in the wrong. You don't rob a bank and hold hostages and expect to be able to negotiate much do you unless you let some hostages go.

You gotta give back the public of this metropolis that was built to be dependent on such form of transportation, their transportation, then you can talk numbers rationally, dude!

The MTA was in noooo hurry to ask these people to come back. The strike could have lasted all week.

See, these Unions worked 90 years ago when workers were slaves in private factories, not public servants. A factory workforce striking hurt the cheap rich factory boss' wallet because it hurt his inventory and no longer had shiet for sale.

Striking when your boss is the MTA? The MTA delivers a product that is a service, and the MTA is not a for profit business... it's not going anywhere dude, rain or shine! You can't really hurt it just like your union protects your job from market forces... ouch!

(The Federal Postal Service ain't goin anywhere either....
it took UPS and Fed Ex, both private entities, to wake the USPS ass UP 10yrs ago and shape up!)

Yes, I'm sure a good many TWU's don't really want to strike, but many Americans don't want the fiasco in Iraq and we want to be known to be seperated from the decisions of our Capital... but other countries don't see us citizens as seperate from the decisions of our President and blame us as a whole...we are individually, all a global target are we not.

And in this case do we not blame the TWU as a whole, its leaders and members, everyone is accountable otherwise don't join the TWU.

I would have been impressed if the TWU had the balls to stay on strike.

They chickened out because it's costing them, and quite frankly by quiting so soon,
it hurt their power for the next new contract the next time if they dare to strike again.

So much for worrying about future ramifications as just 2 days ago they so badly worried about how if they had agreed to allow this new 1pct pension to apply to new employees, it would be the same as agreeing to open the floodgates because in the future, it would be tweaked to spread to more employees, and then there goes the 'neighborhood'.

When a union loses teeth... it's 'down with the unions' indeed. I smell blood, and it's long over due.


The MTA is the next goliath. I hope they get their turn too, get shaken up so this city gets the modern transportation it deserves.

Japan has the most experience in making the best subways and tracks and stations. Yet the contracts come out via MTA politics and back scratching and Canadians and French are contracted. NYC, the 'city of the world', loses out in not getting the best the 'world' has to offer.
 

abc

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Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: EXccord
are you shittng me???? 40k-55k a year?!?!?!?!? WTF...i live in texas and minimum wage is 5.15 here. Dude, i mean what the ******...i bust my ass and im getting 9.25, you dont see me complaining, im making DECENT/ACCEPTABLE money, but i wouldnt ****** complain about that ****** upthere

Then take your azz to New York City and see how far 40K will go, since you seem to knwo all about it :roll:

Back to reality, you know as well as I do 40k is more than enough to live in queens. And besides, the vast majority of jobs doing equal work that the mta workers are doing in NYC is probably somewhere around 8-10 dollars an hour, so yes, they are overpaid.

correct... it's enough. even probabaly 30k, in several NYC boroughs.

Unless you have to support a few people.

Why you see so many single people with roommates... and they are job bouncers, not working for corporations or anything. because these people want to 'live' NYC, and don't need to make a living to send money back home to wherever their folks are, whatever state outside of NY.

 

waggy

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ok so the union striked. Cost the city millions if not a billion dollers. lost tons of money for the union and workers for what again? NOTHING? yeah they did a great job!

If i was a union member i would be calling for the leaders to be fired.
 

Linux23

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Originally posted by: waggy
ok so the union striked. Cost the city millions if not a billion dollers. lost tons of money for the union and workers for what again? NOTHING? yeah they did a great job!

If i was a union member i would be calling for the leaders to be fired.

can they quit the union. why pay union dues to an organization that is not very effective?
 

gotsmack

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HAHA, funny how the strike was over as soon as there was a chance that the union leaders could be jailed. They don't make union leaders like they used to.