This may not be video or home theater, but HD-DVD vs. BluRay

[minendo]

I am no expert nor do I keep up on the differences, but after watching 1 HD-DVD and 1 BluRay movie, I must say that HD-DVD impressed me more. Maybe it is an issue with my players, my settings, or the movies I watched, but HD-DVD was a better picture.

I watched Transformers in HD-DVD on my Toshiba HD-A2 and Spiderman 3 on my PS3. Both were hooked up to my Toshiba Regza 42" LCD using HDMI.

 

[hellokeith]

Most likely it came down to the fact that the A2 is a dedicated unit built for HDM playback, whereas the PS3 is a gaming console that can play HDM. CE units will typically do a CE function better than a PC's or Console.

 

[Pheran]

Originally posted by: minendo
I am no expert nor do I keep up on the differences, but after watching 1 HD-DVD and 1 BluRay movie, I must say that HD-DVD impressed me more. Maybe it is an issue with my players, my settings, or the movies I watched, but HD-DVD was a better picture.

I watched Transformers in HD-DVD on my Toshiba HD-A2 and Spiderman 3 on my PS3. Both were hooked up to my Toshiba Regza 42" LCD using HDMI.

1. This comparison in pointless since you watched two different movies.

2. It's moot anyway since HD-DVD is dead.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: hellokeith
Most likely it came down to the fact that the A2 is a dedicated unit built for HDM playback, whereas the PS3 is a gaming console that can play HDM. CE units will typically do a CE function better than a PC's or Console.

Not in this case.

Like the OP said, it more than likely has to do with the movies or settings as opposed to the players. Both are excellent format players with superb quality. Both are using VC-1.

I don't know how the Spiderman 3 transfer is, but it could certainly be a less than stellar transfer. Or it may not be a very good movie in terms of production/SFX. And like you suggested OP, you may have to play around with the settings on the PS3.

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

VHS wasn't the best format, but it won. I don't think the technology will matter when you get a company like Sony backing something so large...

 

[rockyct]

Originally posted by: hellokeith
Most likely it came down to the fact that the A2 is a dedicated unit built for HDM playback, whereas the PS3 is a gaming console that can play HDM. CE units will typically do a CE function better than a PC's or Console.

The PS3 is actually a very good upconverting DVD player and a Blu-ray player. The PS2 was never even really an average quality DVD player, but the PS3 is quite respectable.

 

[fatpat268]

I much prefered HD-DVDs to bluray, simply because of better features, better menus, and generally better picture quality.

I'm not sure what the Profile 2.0 is going to do for blu-ray, but I suspect it'll make bluray a little more like what hd-dvd is/was.

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: rockyct

Originally posted by: hellokeith
Most likely it came down to the fact that the A2 is a dedicated unit built for HDM playback, whereas the PS3 is a gaming console that can play HDM. CE units will typically do a CE function better than a PC's or Console.

The PS3 is actually a very good upconverting DVD player and a Blu-ray player. The PS2 was never even really an average quality DVD player, but the PS3 is quite respectable.

Are there settings I need to change/mess with? I was not impressed as the image was extremely grainy.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
VHS wasn't the best format, but it won. I don't think the technology will matter when you get a company like Sony backing something so large...

Hi, let me introduce myself. I'm Sony's Betamax.

Funny you mention VHS's victory over it, yet say that Sony's backing should produce a winner.

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
VHS wasn't the best format, but it won. I don't think the technology will matter when you get a company like Sony backing something so large...

Hi, let me introduce myself. I'm Sony's Betamax.

Funny you mention VHS's victory over it, yet say that Sony's backing should produce a winner.

I worded it wrong - my intention was to just say that the technology won't always be a large enough indicator to sway the final verdict, like in the case of VHS.

 

[olds]

Spiderman 3 just sucked.

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Spiderman 3 just sucked.

This only may occur one time in a lifetime, but I agree with you. The movie was terrible and I was afraid that might cloud my judgment, but I was looking for opinions/suggestions outside of that fact.

 

[Pliablemoose]

It's more to do with the movie itself than the format, I haven't seen Transformers, but have watched SM3 in BR, it was pretty bad...

I'm just glad the BS is over, it's sort of a moot point anyway, we have to live through a zillion more format changes anyway...

I've been through LP's, 8 tracks, cassettes, CD's, and lately mp3 formats in the audio end...

Am ready for all digital in video too so all you have to do is update the damn software and not abandon an entire format all the damn time...

 

[ForumMaster]

you're comparing apples and oranges. i know that spiderman 3 was widely critized for looking awful on blu-ray. try and get the same movie. btw, i doubt you'll see much of a different. there isn't once really. it's just the type of media.

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
VHS wasn't the best format, but it won. I don't think the technology will matter when you get a company like Sony backing something so large...

Hi, let me introduce myself. I'm Sony's Betamax.

Funny you mention VHS's victory over it, yet say that Sony's backing should produce a winner.

Sony didnt win because they had the superior format. They won because they learned their lesson the last time.
Its better to use agressive business tactics and browbeat everyone into following your standard.
The quality of their product, heck, the quality of ANY product has little to do with its success. Advertising and market saturation are a lot more important.

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: shortylickens

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
VHS wasn't the best format, but it won. I don't think the technology will matter when you get a company like Sony backing something so large...

Hi, let me introduce myself. I'm Sony's Betamax.

Funny you mention VHS's victory over it, yet say that Sony's backing should produce a winner.

Sony didnt win because they had the superior format. They won because they learned their lesson the last time.
Its better to use agressive business tactics and browbeat everyone into following your standard.
The quality of their product, heck, the quality of ANY product has little to do with its success. Advertising and market saturation are a lot more important.

Bose, anyone?

 

[Pepsei]

wait until transformer comes out on blu-ray and do another comparison.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: hellokeith
Most likely it came down to the fact that the A2 is a dedicated unit built for HDM playback, whereas the PS3 is a gaming console that can play HDM. CE units will typically do a CE function better than a PC's or Console.

Not in this case.

Like the OP said, it more than likely has to do with the movies or settings as opposed to the players. Both are excellent format players with superb quality. Both are using VC-1.

I don't know how the Spiderman 3 transfer is, but it could certainly be a less than stellar transfer. Or it may not be a very good movie in terms of production/SFX. And like you suggested OP, you may have to play around with the settings on the PS3.

Umm...how can you blame SM3 for not being a quality BR movie? It's a tier 0 movie...it really doesn't get any better for BR playback

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=858316

 

[WTurner]

Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
VHS wasn't the best format, but it won. I don't think the technology will matter when you get a company like Sony backing something so large...

Sony backed betamax and it lost to VHS.

 

[Steve]

Originally posted by: WTurner

Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
VHS wasn't the best format, but it won. I don't think the technology will matter when you get a company like Sony backing something so large...

Sony backed betamax and it lost to VHS.

It only lost in the consumer market. Yes, the bigger market, regardless it is finally on its way out in editing/production/post-prod houses in favor of digital.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Spiderman 3 just sucked.

This only may occur one time in a lifetime, but I agree with you. The movie was terrible and I was afraid that might cloud my judgment, but I was looking for opinions/suggestions outside of that fact.

minendo:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=858316

You should rent or buy any of the tier 0 titles for maximum BR quality. SM3 is a tier 0 title, so I'm not too sure why it didn't look that great, but check out any of the other titles (the Disney/Pixar ones are fantastic!!)

 

[Gothgar]

Originally posted by: Pheran

Originally posted by: minendo
I am no expert nor do I keep up on the differences, but after watching 1 HD-DVD and 1 BluRay movie, I must say that HD-DVD impressed me more. Maybe it is an issue with my players, my settings, or the movies I watched, but HD-DVD was a better picture.

I watched Transformers in HD-DVD on my Toshiba HD-A2 and Spiderman 3 on my PS3. Both were hooked up to my Toshiba Regza 42" LCD using HDMI.

1. This comparison in pointless since you watched two different movies.

2. It's moot anyway since HD-DVD is dead.

there really doesn't need to be anything else said about this subject.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: hellokeith
Most likely it came down to the fact that the A2 is a dedicated unit built for HDM playback, whereas the PS3 is a gaming console that can play HDM. CE units will typically do a CE function better than a PC's or Console.

Not in this case.

Like the OP said, it more than likely has to do with the movies or settings as opposed to the players. Both are excellent format players with superb quality. Both are using VC-1.

I don't know how the Spiderman 3 transfer is, but it could certainly be a less than stellar transfer. Or it may not be a very good movie in terms of production/SFX. And like you suggested OP, you may have to play around with the settings on the PS3.

Umm...how can you blame SM3 for not being a quality BR movie? It's a tier 0 movie...it really doesn't get any better for BR playback

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=858316

Thank you for reading what I wrote.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: shortylickens

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
VHS wasn't the best format, but it won. I don't think the technology will matter when you get a company like Sony backing something so large...

Hi, let me introduce myself. I'm Sony's Betamax.

Funny you mention VHS's victory over it, yet say that Sony's backing should produce a winner.

Sony didnt win because they had the superior format. They won because they learned their lesson the last time.
Its better to use agressive business tactics and browbeat everyone into following your standard.
The quality of their product, heck, the quality of ANY product has little to do with its success. Advertising and market saturation are a lot more important.

I agree, but what's your point? The way he worded it (and as he later posted, not his intention) was that simply because Sony is backing something such as a format, it should be assured victory.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: hellokeith
Most likely it came down to the fact that the A2 is a dedicated unit built for HDM playback, whereas the PS3 is a gaming console that can play HDM. CE units will typically do a CE function better than a PC's or Console.

Not in this case.

Like the OP said, it more than likely has to do with the movies or settings as opposed to the players. Both are excellent format players with superb quality. Both are using VC-1.

I don't know how the Spiderman 3 transfer is, but it could certainly be a less than stellar transfer. Or it may not be a very good movie in terms of production/SFX. And like you suggested OP, you may have to play around with the settings on the PS3.

Umm...how can you blame SM3 for not being a quality BR movie? It's a tier 0 movie...it really doesn't get any better for BR playback

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=858316

Thank you for reading what I wrote.

Right, and I was pointing out how the transfer was.