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This is the most anti-bush/liberal forum I have ever seen...

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: CryHavoc
Bush is no better perhaps, but he is tough and took the fight to them before it came here again. If it werent' for the war in Iraq and Afganistan, then those insurgents would be here on American soil doing more harm to innocent people. Now they are concentrating the bulk of their hatred to killing the iraqi people and unfortunately, the soldiers of the coalition.

I for one definitely believe that if you are going to kick the tiger in the ass, you better have a plan for dealing with his teeth.

Havoc out.
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No, No, No!

There was no terrorism and not a terrorist to be found in Iraq before our "invasion"!

At least that's what several here will tell you.
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quotes/links?
 
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: busmaster11
...But it will be from someone credible. Based upon the overwhelming evidence proving your lack of accountability and your trolling, and the responses to it, to say that you are not credible would not be judging. It would be quite a reasonable conclusion.
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Lets see, I started this thread asking why so many people here hate bush. Its pretty obvious just looking at all the names of the threads here to make that conclusion. You enter and take it in an entirely different direction and I am the one who is trolling? I dont think so. Your logic is flawed when you speak of not forcing your beliefs on others but the fact is, either way you vote you are forcing certain beliefs on someone. So better yet, just dont vote at all next time and your logic will be alright.
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Hmmm... I coulda swore it was you who took it in a different direction by calling me a hypocrite. All I did was agree with bumrush99 and said I was a Christian.

The people viewing this thread are still waiting for you to answer charges and defend your accusation by the way. But don't bother. We now know better than to expect anything remotely intelligent in response. You're fodder for liberals. We need Cad back for this to be fair again...

GO SOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
This is the most anti-bush/liberal forum I have ever seen...
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You think this forum us anti-Bush???

If we are, we're not the only ones. 😉

Check this out...

Old Bush vs. new

WASHINGTON, Oct. 21 (UPI) -- The Bush administration is bracing for a powerful new attack by Brent Scowcroft, the respected national security adviser to the first President George Bush.

A Republican and a former Air Force general, Scowcroft is a leading member of the bipartisan foreign policy establishment, and his critique of both of the style and the substance of the Bush White House, is slated to appear in Monday's editions of the New Yorker magazine.

The article also contains some critical comments on the handling of U.S. foreign policy by the current President Bush from his father, whose 1989-1993 presidency is hailed for deft management of the end of the Cold War, German unification, the first Gulf war and the collapse of the Soviet Union.

The new attack comes hard on the heels of the denunciation of "the cabal around Cheney's office" by Col. Larry Wilkerson, the chief of staff to former Secretary of State Colin Powell in a widely reported speech to the New American Foundation in Washington this week. Wilkerson said the national security decision-making process was effectively "broken."

Scowcroft's criticisms will be taken seriously at the highest levels of the Bush administration because he is seen as a mentor by some of its senior figures, notably Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, whose political career began when she worked under Scowcroft as an adviser on Soviet affairs.

The attack also comes as President Bush's opinion poll approval ratings have sunk to around 37 percent, partly reflecting the ill-handled federal government response to Hurricane Katrina's devastation of the Gulf coast. But majorities of Americans are also telling pollsters the country "is on the wrong track" and saying the Iraq war was a mistake.

The beleaguered Bush administration is also nervously waiting to see whether indictments in the CIA leak case are to be handed down next week against two key White House aides, Karl Rove and "Scooter" Libby. The White House is facing heavy flak from its conservative base over the controversial nomination of the president's counsel, Harriet Miers, to the vacant seat on the Supreme Court. And traditional balanced-budget conservatives have been dismayed by the double deficit, a combined deficit on the federal budget and on the current account that adds up to over $1 trillion this year.

A cartoon in the Washington Post Friday depicted the Bush White House being inundated by "The Perfect Storm" of Miers, Hurricane Katrina, Iraq, Rove, the budget deficit and the indictment this week of the Republican leader in the House of Representatives, Tom DeLay, on charges of money laundering campaign funds.
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Wake up. Everyone is piling on and your boy is going to go down.

This is going to be as much fun to watch as Watergate was.

:laugh:

*EDIT*

Maybe even more. :thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: Corbett
What's with the constant Bush bashing here? I mean, I love talking politics and all but most of you just seem to hate absolutely ANYTHING that has to do with the White House or this current administration. Why?
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Is it wrong to disagree with what an administration does? If something is going on that someone does not agree with, should he just be quiet and not say anything? The forum was meant for people to discuss there political views. If you check out posts one day, you will find it pointing in one direction. If you check another, it will be pointing in a completely opposite direction. If you go back to election date threads you will probably find equally critical posts on both sides. I think that P & N is an equal opportunity hater.
 
Originally posted by: busmaster11
Hmmm... I coulda swore it was you who took it in a different direction by calling me a hypocrite. All I did was agree with bumrush99 and said I was a Christian.

The people viewing this thread are still waiting for you to answer charges and defend your accusation by the way. But don't bother. We now know better than to expect anything remotely intelligent in response. You're fodder for liberals. We need Cad back for this to be fair again...
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You just cant let it go can you? So "humble" yet has to get the last word in. Wow. And you were the one who took it in a different direction and you ARE a hypocrite. You say you dont vote republican because you dont want to judge anyone, yet you have constantly judged ME throughout this entir thread. So yes, you are a hypocrite. And now you say I have no intelligence either. Thanks! Just shows how much more of a hypocrite you really are. Mr. I love everyone, except for those who differ in oppinion. Sheesh what a guy!
 
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: busmaster11
Hmmm... I coulda swore it was you who took it in a different direction by calling me a hypocrite. All I did was agree with bumrush99 and said I was a Christian.

The people viewing this thread are still waiting for you to answer charges and defend your accusation by the way. But don't bother. We now know better than to expect anything remotely intelligent in response. You're fodder for liberals. We need Cad back for this to be fair again...
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You just cant let it go can you? So "humble" yet has to get the last word in. Wow. And you were the one who took it in a different direction and you ARE a hypocrite. You say you dont vote republican because you dont want to judge anyone, yet you have constantly judged ME throughout this entir thread. So yes, you are a hypocrite. And now you say I have no intelligence either. Thanks! Just shows how much more of a hypocrite you really are. Mr. I love everyone, except for those who differ in oppinion. Sheesh what a guy!
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What's the point of your existance?
 
Originally posted by: Corbett
What's with the constant Bush bashing here? I mean, I love talking politics and all but most of you just seem to hate absolutely ANYTHING that has to do with the White House or this current administration. Why?
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it's called common sense, dude. whenever someone represents us as poorly as this dipsh!t does, people start to speak out.

morons follow someone who is leading them into a futureless void.
 
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
I'm a moderate and I will give you several reasons. I support the war on terror but I do not support an adminstration that is secretive, that has no desire to keep the public informed on matters that are important to us.

I value life, but will never value the life of a stem cell that will be destroyed over a living human being that can be cured of debilitating disease.

I have problems trusting someone that hides behind his religous beliefs to steer public policy to the right.

I have a problem with a president that talks about being a conservative yet continues to spend trillions upon trillions of dollars while giving tax cuts to the top 1% of this country.

I see rising gas costs, cronyism at the highest levels, leaked CIA information, Senate and House leaders under investigation and a under-qualified supreme court nominee that was picked because Bush likes her style. I see a country in disarry, losing legitmacy throughout the world while Bush continues to hide. I see directors of FEMA that couldn't even direct a pack of horses, I see United Nations representatives that don't know the definition of diplomacy, I see honorable people like Powell that are pushed out. It is not about hating the president, it is about accepting the sad fact that country is in much worse condition than it was 10 years ago.
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:thumbsup:
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:thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: Corbett
What's with the constant Bush bashing here? I mean, I love talking politics and all but most of you just seem to hate absolutely ANYTHING that has to do with the White House or this current administration. Why?
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Bush's approval rating is in the 30's. That means over 60% of the country "Bush bashes".

Of course, you'll find a higher concentration in this forum because the typical member has a higher IQ than the US average.
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Corbett
What's with the constant Bush bashing here? I mean, I love talking politics and all but most of you just seem to hate absolutely ANYTHING that has to do with the White House or this current administration. Why?
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Bush's approval rating is in the 30's. That means over 60% of the country "Bush bashes".

Of course, you'll find a higher concentration in this forum because the typical member has a higher IQ than the US average.
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It doesn't mean they bash him like the idiots on this forum. Anyone who calls the President "chimp" or some such slur loses any credence I'd give to their opinions.
 
Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Corbett
What's with the constant Bush bashing here? I mean, I love talking politics and all but most of you just seem to hate absolutely ANYTHING that has to do with the White House or this current administration. Why?
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Bush's approval rating is in the 30's. That means over 60% of the country "Bush bashes".

Of course, you'll find a higher concentration in this forum because the typical member has a higher IQ than the US average.
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It doesn't mean they bash him like the idiots on this forum. Anyone who calls the President "chimp" or some such slur loses any credence I'd give to their opinions.
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Why? Would you prefer they call him an 'idiot'? Then would you give their opinions credence?

 
Originally posted by: Gaard
It doesn't mean they bash him like the idiots on this forum. Anyone who calls the President "chimp" or some such slur loses any credence I'd give to their opinions.
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Why? Would you prefer they call him an 'idiot'? Then would you give their opinions credence?
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Anyone who has to resort to such debauchery only serves to prove the point being made.

Contrary to popular belief, it is possible to make a point without denegrating a person with first-grade slurs like "chimp".
 
Originally posted by: Pabster


Anyone who has to resort to such debauchery only serves to prove the point being made.
What point is that?


Contrary to popular belief, it is possible to make a point without denegrating a person with first-grade slurs like "chimp".
I agree, it is.
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I believe you missed the irony in Frackal's post that I was trying to point out.

 
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Pabster
Anyone who has to resort to such debauchery only serves to prove the point being made.
What point is that?


Contrary to popular belief, it is possible to make a point without denegrating a person with first-grade slurs like "chimp".
I agree, it is.
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I believe you missed the irony in Frackal's post that I was trying to point out.
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:laugh:

You'll probably have to spell it out for Pabsie. He's proven time and again he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer. (Which would be perfectly OK if he didn't try so hard to pretend otherwise.)


(PS. Pabsie, you might want to look up the word "debauchery". You apparently don't know what it means either.)
 
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Bush's approval rating is in the 30's. That means over 60% of the country "Bush bashes".

Of course, you'll find a higher concentration in this forum because the typical member has a higher IQ than the US average.
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It doesn't mean they bash him like the idiots on this forum. Anyone who calls the President "chimp" or some such slur loses any credence I'd give to their opinions.
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Why? Would you prefer they call him an 'idiot'? Then would you give their opinions credence?
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ROFL! Nicely done.
 
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