You know how it is ok for an African American to use the N-word but not for everybody else? I guess it's kinda like that.
probably a wrong comparison but still in the same ball-park.
Originally posted by: blakeatwork
Originally posted by: MinorityReport
Originally posted by: blakeatwork
Originally posted by: MinorityReport
Originally posted by: athithi
blakeatwork, are you jealous of the success Indians find in the U.S? Otherwise, why would you expect us to feel ashamed that most of our countrymen back in India live in poverty? Do you feel embarrassed by the white trash in your country? BTW, 'Indian' is not a race - it is a nationality or heritage. There are several races that come from India. NA is not giving me this money for free. I work, I get paid - of course, I'm glad NA pays what I deserve which probably doesn't happen everywhere in the world. And finally, your classic statement - "if you don't like something in the U.S go back to the hell-hole you came from"Not everybody came here as a refugee.
Or like his potato farming starving ancestors from Ireland or which ever trash pit it was..
See the jealously .. just cause I mentioned some figures with income and success, they start boiling ...
Seems his kids in trailor parks are not getting good education ..
As an Ameican of Indian origin I feel extreme pride in that we can be of help to US and our nation back home with our success here in NA.
ooo ooo ooo.... you used racial bashing!!!. Do we get to march on your house now?? Or maybe I'll get the Gardai or the IRA to knock on your door... Christ man... what jealousy??? You assume that because I spout off that I don't make money??? sorry guy, I run my own business, and make plenty of money doing it.
you seem to have miscontrued my point, yet again. I am all for everyone getting a piece of the pie, even it means only equal portions for EVERYONE. What I bitched about was how sensitive everyone is to "stereotypes". Everyone's a bigot at heart to some degree, whether they hate a person because of their colour, their creed, or the size of their right eye, it's bigotry.... You just seem to think that because they made fun of Ghandhi (spelling), that they should be persecuted, YOU brought up money... YOU brought up legal action... I retorted (OK I mocked you) for your "call to arms".
I have the last question of the day ..
You are canadian, right ? How the hell are you bothered with this ?
End of story .. our efforts payed ..they will apologise ...and now you know some socio economic facts about East indians .. and my ability to shamelessly self praise.
Last but not the least, you were proven as a person not worth debating with.
LOL... finally something we can agree about (referring to shameless self-promotion, not praising).
And I'm not worth debating because I can show the flaws in your racist rhetoric?? So, is this a "yu're going to take your ball and go home" issue then??
Just noticed <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?
catid=38&threadid=948301&highlight_key=y">This! (Scroll to end of page one (look for MinorityReport)</a>
How is this not mocking the people you fight so hard to get respect for??? You just became a Grade-A hypocrite...
Exhibit A - The Caption "When the going gets tough ... my daily commute to school"
Exhibit B "When Fuel runs out, we use Bio-gas"
This is just proving the fact that you are not worth debating for again and again.
Are these people INSIDE USA > or Canada ? We are dealing with USA here. East Indians in America and their influence. They make 2-3 million in munber and thir spendign cap is $36 billion, more than 12 million hispanics.
Did you read that ? Now you must be the biggest ignorant fool on earth to conclude that those pictures were of USA or east indians living in USA.
Do you want me to show you pictures of East indians in US driving S classes, 7 series, Bentleys, Aston Martins, living in multi million homes, dining in 4 seasons, studying in IvY leagues, et ctec and taking active part in regional politics of USA ?
Who is talking about India here ???? My dear Irish immigrant friend , we are talking about Maxim a US magazine and our East indian inffluence in USA.
Then gain, you are not from US. Hence plz mute the button. I think this does not concern you.
Originally posted by: MinorityReport
Originally posted by: blakeatwork
Originally posted by: MinorityReport
Originally posted by: blakeatwork
Originally posted by: MinorityReport
Originally posted by: athithi
blakeatwork, are you jealous of the success Indians find in the U.S? Otherwise, why would you expect us to feel ashamed that most of our countrymen back in India live in poverty? Do you feel embarrassed by the white trash in your country? BTW, 'Indian' is not a race - it is a nationality or heritage. There are several races that come from India. NA is not giving me this money for free. I work, I get paid - of course, I'm glad NA pays what I deserve which probably doesn't happen everywhere in the world. And finally, your classic statement - "if you don't like something in the U.S go back to the hell-hole you came from"Not everybody came here as a refugee.
Or like his potato farming starving ancestors from Ireland or which ever trash pit it was..
See the jealously .. just cause I mentioned some figures with income and success, they start boiling ...
Seems his kids in trailor parks are not getting good education ..
As an Ameican of Indian origin I feel extreme pride in that we can be of help to US and our nation back home with our success here in NA.
ooo ooo ooo.... you used racial bashing!!!. Do we get to march on your house now?? Or maybe I'll get the Gardai or the IRA to knock on your door... Christ man... what jealousy??? You assume that because I spout off that I don't make money??? sorry guy, I run my own business, and make plenty of money doing it.
you seem to have miscontrued my point, yet again. I am all for everyone getting a piece of the pie, even it means only equal portions for EVERYONE. What I bitched about was how sensitive everyone is to "stereotypes". Everyone's a bigot at heart to some degree, whether they hate a person because of their colour, their creed, or the size of their right eye, it's bigotry.... You just seem to think that because they made fun of Ghandhi (spelling), that they should be persecuted, YOU brought up money... YOU brought up legal action... I retorted (OK I mocked you) for your "call to arms".
I have the last question of the day ..
You are canadian, right ? How the hell are you bothered with this ?
End of story .. our efforts payed ..they will apologise ...and now you know some socio economic facts about East indians .. and my ability to shamelessly self praise.
Last but not the least, you were proven as a person not worth debating with.
LOL... finally something we can agree about (referring to shameless self-promotion, not praising).
And I'm not worth debating because I can show the flaws in your racist rhetoric?? So, is this a "yu're going to take your ball and go home" issue then??
Just noticed <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?
catid=38&threadid=948301&highlight_key=y">This! (Scroll to end of page one (look for MinorityReport)</a>
How is this not mocking the people you fight so hard to get respect for??? You just became a Grade-A hypocrite...
Exhibit A - The Caption "When the going gets tough ... my daily commute to school"
Exhibit B "When Fuel runs out, we use Bio-gas"
This is just proving the fact that you are not worth debating for again and again.
Are these people INSIDE USA > or Canada ? We are dealing with USA here. East Indians in America and their influence. They make 2-3 million in munber and thir spendign cap is $36 billion, more than 12 million hispanics.
Did you read that ? Now you must be the biggest ignorant fool on earth to conclude that those pictures were of USA or east indians living in USA.
Do you want me to show you pictures of East indians in US driving S classes, 7 series, Bentleys, Aston Martins, living in multi million homes, dining in 4 seasons, studying in IvY leagues, et ctec and taking active part in regional politics of USA ?
Who is talking about India here ???? My dear Irish immigrant friend , we are talking about Maxim a US magazine and our East indian inffluence in USA.
Then gain, you are not from US. Hence plz mute the button. I think this does not concern you.
Agreed.... no more posting.... it's like talking to a wall..
Originally posted by: athithi
blakeatwork, are you jealous of the success Indians find in the U.S? Otherwise, why would you expect us to feel ashamed that most of our countrymen back in India live in poverty? Do you feel embarrassed by the white trash in your country? BTW, 'Indian' is not a race - it is a nationality or heritage. There are several races that come from India. NA is not giving me this money for free. I work, I get paid - of course, I'm glad NA pays what I deserve which probably doesn't happen everywhere in the world. And finally, your classic statement - "if you don't like something in the U.S go back to the hell-hole you came from"Not everybody came here as a refugee.
I'm sure you're not refugee, and hell hole might have been too strong a word (erm...Maybe not, my indian friend uses that word on his hometown too). But I'm sure a lot of Indian came here for better life / opportunity US has to offer. Sure North America is not giving you money for free. They pay you in exchange for your hardwork / skill / both. This mutual beneficial relationship, however, would not have been as readily available in your home as it is in US would it? People come to US for better opportunity, and I think we all should be glad that US citizens are mostly open enough to accept immigrants as part of the country. In asia, there really are a lot of discrimination against those who come to work from another country. If you're not one of them, they treat you like crap.
Did you guys not have this freedom of speech talk a little earlier in the forum?
I don't get why this is even relevent. So you guys are loaded. If you have the money, and you hate maxim for doing what they did, you can just conveniently buy up the company right? I personally do not think maxim was conciously making the joke that's aimmed at you guys. They made a bad joke, mis-fired, and now apologized, which is a very nice gesture. There is no need really to stress heritage superiorsity financially. Just because you're richer doesn't make you a better person than I am.
Take it easy my friend.
News Flash
Deriding Gandhi: Maxim issues apology
Jeet Thayil in New York | January 31, 2003 07:35 IST
Following a vociferous e-mail protest campaign from many thousands of people, Maxim magazine issued a carefully-worded apology for an article in its February issue that depicted Mahatma Gandhi being beaten, kicked and bloodied, in a fitness feature.
"We apologize if our cartoon depicting Mahatma Gandhi in the February 2003 issue of Maxim was interpreted as offensive," said editor-in-chief Keith Blanchard's apology, which characterised the three-page feature and its 23 computer-generated color illustrations as a 'cartoon'.
"An edgy sense of humour, laced with irony, has always been a central element of Maxim's editorial," Blanchard's note continued. "For some people, this piece may have gone one step too far."
"We at Maxim do, in fact, believe in Gandhi's teachings of peace. In fact, we chose Gandhi as the subject of our workout cartoon specifically because he is the least likely target of aggression imaginable. No offense was intended to anyone," the apology said putting an interesting spin on why it chose Gandhi for the feature.
The apology appeared at a time when Blanchard was away on vacation.
Maxim's New York office was bombarded with e-mail and phone protests, said a spokesman for the magazine adding more than 5,000 complaints arrived in the course of two days.
The apology, which will appear in the magazine's May issue, was sent to the groups responsible for organising the protests, including the National Federation of Indian American Associations, India Cause and countless private citizens.
Mahendra Joshi of the India Cause said 19,116 people had logged into the website's protest page. Around 7,000 people had gone on to lodge complaints with Maxim.
He said the magazine was clearly not expecting such a deluge of protests and had taken the only course possible.
Maxim got the message and thanks to all those who showed solidarity and voiced their anger
Maybe it is not a big issue for some but to me it is a matter of ethnic pride and religious sentiments. And we take it pretty god dammed seriously.
Part #2
MTV also warned and they will show apology in MTV India this week.
MTV India sends stinker to MTV US on Gandhi spoof
Press Trust of India
New Delhi, January 30
MTV US has taken "serious note" of the wide media criticism in India of its humiliating depiction of Mahatma Gandhi, which shows his animated clone sporting ear-rings.
"Following reports about the series, we have notified MTV US to discuss the show's content. In response, MTV US has taken this matter very seriously and feedback from them is forthcoming," managing director of MTV India, the Indian arm of the company, Alex Kuruvilla said in a statement on Thursday.
Pointing out that MTV India was entirely a locally programmed channel reflecting the tastes of Indians, he said it had no involvement in the creation or production of Clone High USA, an animated series of spoofs on Gandhi and other legends including Gautam Buddha, Jesus Christ, Abraham Lincoln, John F Kennedy and Thomas Edison.
"MTV India, which reflects the tastes and sensibilities of our local audiences, has no intention of airing the show in India," Kuruvilla said.
An episode guide at the network's website describes Gandhi as "stupid enough to take a swim in its piranha-infested moat," where 'Special Education' kids are ostracised and imprisoned.
Sarcastically describing the attempts as a part of the world's most expensive and ambitious cloning project, the website said the project is about a group of scientists creating clones from DNA extracts of dead people who have changed the course of human history.
Deriding Gandhi: Maxim issues apology
Jeet Thayil in New York | January 31, 2003 07:35 IST
Following a vociferous e-mail protest campaign from many thousands of people, Maxim magazine issued a carefully-worded apology for an article in its February issue that depicted Mahatma Gandhi being beaten, kicked and bloodied, in a fitness feature.
"We apologize if our cartoon depicting Mahatma Gandhi in the February 2003 issue of Maxim was interpreted as offensive," said editor-in-chief Keith Blanchard's apology, which characterised the three-page feature and its 23 computer-generated color illustrations as a 'cartoon'.
"An edgy sense of humour, laced with irony, has always been a central element of Maxim's editorial," Blanchard's note continued. "For some people, this piece may have gone one step too far."
"We at Maxim do, in fact, believe in Gandhi's teachings of peace. In fact, we chose Gandhi as the subject of our workout cartoon specifically because he is the least likely target of aggression imaginable. No offense was intended to anyone," the apology said putting an interesting spin on why it chose Gandhi for the feature.
The apology appeared at a time when Blanchard was away on vacation.
Maxim's New York office was bombarded with e-mail and phone protests, said a spokesman for the magazine adding more than 5,000 complaints arrived in the course of two days.
The apology, which will appear in the magazine's May issue, was sent to the groups responsible for organising the protests, including the National Federation of Indian American Associations, India Cause and countless private citizens.
Mahendra Joshi of the India Cause said 19,116 people had logged into the website's protest page. Around 7,000 people had gone on to lodge complaints with Maxim.
He said the magazine was clearly not expecting such a deluge of protests and had taken the only course possible.
Maxim got the message and thanks to all those who showed solidarity and voiced their anger
Maybe it is not a big issue for some but to me it is a matter of ethnic pride and religious sentiments. And we take it pretty god dammed seriously.
Part #2
MTV also warned and they will show apology in MTV India this week.
MTV India sends stinker to MTV US on Gandhi spoof
Press Trust of India
New Delhi, January 30
MTV US has taken "serious note" of the wide media criticism in India of its humiliating depiction of Mahatma Gandhi, which shows his animated clone sporting ear-rings.
"Following reports about the series, we have notified MTV US to discuss the show's content. In response, MTV US has taken this matter very seriously and feedback from them is forthcoming," managing director of MTV India, the Indian arm of the company, Alex Kuruvilla said in a statement on Thursday.
Pointing out that MTV India was entirely a locally programmed channel reflecting the tastes of Indians, he said it had no involvement in the creation or production of Clone High USA, an animated series of spoofs on Gandhi and other legends including Gautam Buddha, Jesus Christ, Abraham Lincoln, John F Kennedy and Thomas Edison.
"MTV India, which reflects the tastes and sensibilities of our local audiences, has no intention of airing the show in India," Kuruvilla said.
An episode guide at the network's website describes Gandhi as "stupid enough to take a swim in its piranha-infested moat," where 'Special Education' kids are ostracised and imprisoned.
Sarcastically describing the attempts as a part of the world's most expensive and ambitious cloning project, the website said the project is about a group of scientists creating clones from DNA extracts of dead people who have changed the course of human history.
skyking
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Gandhi's legacy belongs to the learned people of the world, not just the east Indians. By emphasizing the ethnicity of this attack, rather than the fact that it was sick satire about nonviolence, only helps promote racism. I hope this is not your intent, Minority Report.
dahunan
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Society has become so filled with hatred and violence - so now they decide to have fun by projecting their violence on ONE OF the MOST PEACEFUL BEINGS to ever walk the EARTH
I find it sickening
This parody is no different than trying to get people to laugh at rape.
Trying to get people to laugh at imagery of violently beating Ghandi - get fvcking real people - VIOLENCE BEGETS VIOLENCE NO MATTER IF IT IS IN COMEDY OR NOT!
No that is not at all my intent.
The Mahatma is a universal icon of peace and inner strength.
However to get my point across, I did try to get the "race factor" involved only in this sense that Maxim will fear a huge backlash if that person being kicked was an african american or hispanic or other icon of ethnic/natinal descent ( Canadians excluded
).Race, religion, ethnicity, color, etc etc are very sensitive issues. And when sentiments get involved, flares start and the truth is lost somewhere in the confusion.
I will stay off from debating in such topics henceforth. Not worth it.
SkyKing....
That is what I was trying to get him to understand but he refused to answer my question about how he would feel if the roles were reversed. I have asked him at least 3 times and he refuses to answer. His refusal to answer my simple question was making him look like he only cares about "his own people".
[IMHO] If someone is willing to be as upset if this involved different races then they are truly offended and they probably follow the true teachings of The Mahatma wich is true peace for all not just peace for a specific race or culture.[/IMHO]
That is what I was trying to get him to understand but he refused to answer my question about how he would feel if the roles were reversed. I have asked him at least 3 times and he refuses to answer. His refusal to answer my simple question was making him look like he only cares about "his own people".
[IMHO] If someone is willing to be as upset if this involved different races then they are truly offended and they probably follow the true teachings of The Mahatma wich is true peace for all not just peace for a specific race or culture.[/IMHO]
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